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How to deal with my mother's surprise visits

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ThatFraggle · 17/06/2023 21:43

My mother is very heavily involved with her church and often goes on retreats. She lives about an hour and a half away from us and when she is on her way back from a retreat, if she is passing our way, she will stop by.

There is never any advance notice. Just a knock on the door.

We have a very poor relationship. It is like she cannot handle emotions, and only wants to project a pollyanna, happy happy spin on everything. We never speak about anything that has any significance. Only superficial. If you try and address anything that might even be the tiniest bit upsetting she will be very passive aggressively mean to you in the subsequent hours, days, and weeks.

Today there was actually a bit of advance notice. She called and she said "I'm 5 minutes away by the big Tesco." 45 minutes later and she still hadn't come. When she got here I asked what had taken so long and she said she'd made some phone calls to give me a chance to tidy the mess - tinkly laugh. I have ADHD and I have worked very hard to put in place many systems to ensure that my house is always tidy downstairs. I think she has ADHD as well but she doesn't 'believe in it'. And HER house is always a tip.

I put aside half of my dinner for her because when she gets here she'll always say, "I've eaten", but then the next time that you speak to her she will say "goodness, I've never been so hungry as when I was at your house and you never offered me any food." Yes, I could do with eating less, but I had been looking forward to that meal.

My husband and I do not share a bedroom mainly because the relationship has broken down, but for financial reasons we are stuck with each other for now. This is not public knowledge and if she did know she would spread this throughout the extended family and her church friends. So when she comes over effectively I lose my bedroom, because we only have one spare room. So I am in an uncomfortable situation, and he snores.

I'm being assessed for adult an diagnosis as I might be on the spectrum. When she comes it throws my whole routine out of whack and it takes about a week for me to feel normal again.

She asks me if I've been in touch with extended family. She has a big extended family and is in touch with her cousins etc. Those people don't give a shit about me, they don't make contact with me, I don't make contact with them. But she admonishes me for not making an effort.

Tomorrow is father's Day which is a very charged day. Partly because my daughter's father (not my husband, my ex) is a deadbeat Dad so it is a hard day for her. I have a strained relationship with my own father and they are divorced. I don't want her observing how father's Day is observed at our house because it will just provide her more ammunition for whatever emotional attack she plans in the next few weeks months years.

She pretended she didn't know that it was father's Day tomorrow, but I know that with the church they are always planning activities. She's always involved in planning church things and I know she knew but she just wanted to act like she didn't.

She is from a culture that is big on hospitality if I say anything about her not being welcome in any way it will become "I failed you! You have forgotten your roots!" etc.

She will never say what she wants - you have to guess, and if you guess wrong she will be upset.

I hate this and I don't know what to do.

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Midnightpony · 17/06/2023 21:49

Keep a coat by the door and when she arrives grab it and say "oh what a shame, I was just going out to X place (where she won't want to go) . Such a shame I didn't know you were coming'

Or with a text like today "oh dear I'm not home. Catch you another time"

Midnightpony · 17/06/2023 21:49

Also perhaps counseling to help you say no her

Gymmum82 · 17/06/2023 21:55

Have an excuse ready as to why she can’t stay. A friend/family member of DH is staying. Or you’re just off away for the night as you didn’t know she was coming. Make her a brew and offer a snack then send her on her way

caravanholidays1 · 17/06/2023 21:59

Are you saying that when she turns up unannounced she also stays over? How long does she stay for?

Honestly, I’m not hearing that your relationship with her or your extended family is bringing anything positive into your life. It seems her company is making you miserable.

You don’t want to say anything to her, so as a result you’re allowing her to continue making you feel uncomfortable in your home, which makes you feel bad for weeks after. Is this relationship really worth it?

ThatFraggle · 17/06/2023 22:17

Yes, she turns up unannounced and stays overnight.

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Wherestheheatwave · 17/06/2023 22:23

Firstly, don’t let her stay overnight. Just tell her clearly that in future she can’t stay overnight and ignore whatever guilt tripping she tries to do. Ask her if she could give you proper notice in future. Then just offer her tea and a sandwich and then make it clear you have to do other things. Or meet her at a pre arranged place midway between your houses once a month for a couple of hours. Just ignore all her nastiness and put some firm boundaries in place. If she starts on about relatives just tell her firmly you have enough people in your life and don’t need any more.
I sympathise. My mother is similar.

Savemyusernamenow · 17/06/2023 22:24

I have a parent like this, and I'm very frank and say, "I don't allow ad hoc guests and won't allow you to visit unless you tell me in advance".

At first she ignored it and turned up but I wouldn't let her in. We talked at the front door, I'd remind her and then I said bye and send her on her way. After a few times she started to call slightly before which I told her wasn't good enough. And now, she gives about a days notice which is still not enough for me, but is miles better! With rude comments I disengage from the conversation and say I have to go if its on the phone. In person, I pause, then get up and say I'm having a bathroom break, when I'm in the bathroom, I take some time to breathe and keep calm. I never offer her alcohol, she's so much worse on that!

Explain to your mum how you need routine and she disrupts that. Be firm, good luck!

RunningUpThatBuilding · 17/06/2023 22:33

This is madness!

Sorry to say it OP but you effectively enabled this behaviour by allowing her to get away with it.

You need to make it crystal clear to her what your expectations are. Both verbally and in writing (eg text). If she dissent abide by your expectations (e.g 48 hours prior notice of visit, no over night stays) then what a shame - you are not able to accommodate her. Don’t answer the door.

She’ll soon get the message after a few wasted journeys.

When you receive the inevitable kick back I’d simply reply. “I did make it clear on X date that I was no longer accommodating unexpected visits”.

Comtesse · 18/06/2023 09:19

When she sends a text say “I’m out and won’t be home for hours”.

Dropping in for q cup of tea fine - dropping in for an overnight stay - no way! who does that???

Watchkeys · 18/06/2023 16:17

This is about you, not her.

What is it that stops you from saying no to her, or that you've only got an hour, or that you're in the middle of something, or ignoring her message, or not answering the door, or something else that would suit what you want, rather than what she wants?

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