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Dealing with my sisters family

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Lilipu · 17/06/2023 16:17

hi all my oldest sister and her children are coming to stay for the summer they live very far away and sadly I don’t get to see much of them but my parents visit and stay with them once a year in. I am dreading it, although I very much love my family the behaviour is awful. The children are 7 and 12, last year when they stayed I scolded the youngest one for misbehaving/ ripping up things he had a tantrum which I ignored and placed him in the corner. He continued screaming that the older child should be punished too as everything has to be equal. The older child was behaving fine so I ignored him. Later that evening I put the 7year old to bed and he had another tantrum because the 12 year old has to go to bed at the same time as it’s unfair they stay up later. I explained that when he’s older that he can stay up later. We read some books together then he went off to sleep. My sister was amazed as it turns out the 12 year old usually has to pretend to go to sleep with him then sneak out later. I was shocked and explained that I couldn’t understand why you would continually pander to the 7year old. My sister now states that the children are to be treated completely equally and whilst I agree to a degree the 12 year old should be allowed to stay up later and also play on the pc etc. When the 7 year old has tantrums my sister cuddles him and they have to change/ bend to what he wants. He has no boundaries. My sister has also mentioned that the children don’t have equal amount of savings and maybe my parents could donate more money to the 7 year old account to make it equal to the 12 year old. This is simply because the 12 year old has been alive longer/ had more bdays and the 7year old will eventually have the same amount with time.

I am dreading them coming because the children immediately expect attention from the adults and will literally climb on you and hold your face to get you to entertain them. I suspect the 7year old might have adhd and often I have to set up games and activities to entertain them as the parents just ignore and don’t comment on they children crawling on you. Other family members now choose not to stay with the family due to the poor behaviour. My sister gets angry that I’m keeping the children entertained and even accused me of winding the children up and causing their poor behaviour when I am not there. It’s so difficult because if I try and say anything she gets upset. I have no clue what to do other than avoid them/ don’t see them as much… any advice/ coping strategies gratefully appreciated… apologies for the long thread

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SleepingStandingUp · 17/06/2023 16:19

So they're stopping at yours but she leaves them for you to look after and then moans when you do? Well I'd not be doing any childcare for a start!

Lilipu · 17/06/2023 16:25

I know… it’s crazy! I think I should really just draw the line especially with the free childcare she just says she doesn’t like the youngest playing pc games/ tv as it makes him angry and hyperactive but then brings no toys/ books for him. I have got him some Lego and a football… I think this is probably my sister not dealing with being an adult and drawing boundaries with the kids…😑

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 17/06/2023 16:34

Has your sister got a husband or partner?. I ask only as her man here is not mentioned.

Her son’s poor behaviour is far more likely to be due to her poor parenting than something like ADHD. ADHD in itself does not automatically equal what you are describing, it’s far more likely to be ineffective parenting on your sisters part.

Anoushkaka · 17/06/2023 16:34

I would not have the patience for this. I definately would not provide free childcare when your sister is so ungrateful. As for your nephew I would be telling him of quite sternly everytime he misbehaves. He needs boundaries.

PonyPatter44 · 17/06/2023 16:36

A 7 year old child who grabbed my face to try and get my attention would certainly get it... and he would NOT like it. Tell your sister she's a fucking idiot and to parent her kids properly. Is their dad in the picture at all?

Lilipu · 17/06/2023 16:40

She does have a partner he tends to shy/ hide away- my sis defo has a dominant personality. I think I am going to try to have a word with her- although she’ll probably accuse me of knowing nothing etc. The boy defo lacks boundaries it’s a shame he has a lovely personality just need direction.

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oldestmumaintheworld · 17/06/2023 16:40

This is tricky isn't it. I guess you have to decide how much you like your sister and how much emphasis you place on the relationship. I completely understand. When you live so far apart you may feel you should preserve the relationship at the expense of everything else. But how real is that? If you love your sister talk to her on the phone and tell her what the problem is. Point out that it isn't just you. And do this before they are due to leave home to visit.
If she cares about you she'll hate being told but will take it on the chin and still love you. And if she doesn't...you've lost nothing.

Lilipu · 17/06/2023 16:41

The dad is in the pic but hides away a lot! He’s a massive introvert and just agrees with my sis for an easy life…

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Anotherblueday · 17/06/2023 16:45

Nope, I'd tell them they couldn't stay.

MinnieEgg · 17/06/2023 16:51

She sounds like she's making a difficult life for herself.

I don't think I'd do things much differently really than you have been doing. You are putting your own boundaries in place with regards to what you expect in your own home. I'd stop playing with him if he carried on like that as I genuinely couldn't be arsed.

I don't think it sounds like she's going to change.

I'd just want to get through it! If you still want her to stay that is.

I think I'd take the oldest one out for the day though. Poor bugger.

Couldyounot · 17/06/2023 18:43

"My house, my rules."

TiptoeThroughTheToadstools · 17/06/2023 19:06

Your house, your rules, if your sister doesn't like it then she can opt for them not to spend the night with you

InSpainTheRain · 17/06/2023 19:29

I don't understand why you are doing the childcare? They stay with you - fair enough (although I'd be wanting to change that!) but why do you end up looking after them? And surely if you look after them it's your rules not hers. If she wants her rules then she does all her childcare.

Tinkerbyebye · 17/06/2023 19:58

Sorry sis can’t host you this year, here’s a list of air bnbs and we will aim to
meet up

or tell her the truth

billy1966 · 17/06/2023 20:15

TiptoeThroughTheToadstools · 17/06/2023 19:06

Your house, your rules, if your sister doesn't like it then she can opt for them not to spend the night with you

This.

If she doesn't like your house rules she is welcome to move on.

You are very foolish to have her visit when you know well it will be awful and full of drama.

Burntouted · 17/06/2023 20:20

Stop letting them stay with you and tell her that you won't be watching their children.

If they want a vacation from the kids, they should find someone to watch them or send them some other place... perhaps camp for the summer.

Coming there to just drop their kids off on you ...is ridiculous.

Why do you continue to allow this?

Rogue1001MNer · 17/06/2023 20:46

Just coming on to say "your house, your rules".
But pps have beaten me to it.

But it's true.

If they don't like your way of doing things, they need to stay elsewhere

Aquamarine1029 · 17/06/2023 20:49

That little terror would not be welcome in my home. Direct them to a nearby Airbnb.

Grumpusaurus · 17/06/2023 21:32

A massive fat NOPE to them staying. Actions have consequences and if she does not address the bad behaviour and deal with it properly, she cannot expect to stay with other people.

UsingChangeofName · 17/06/2023 21:52

hi all my oldest sister and her children are coming to stay for the summer they live very far away

How long do you mean by "the Summer" ? As - if you don't see them often, I would put them up for a weekend and expect them to follow reasonable rules / boundaries, but I wouldn't host a family for 6 weeks or more, unless I lived in a stately home with a separate wing or annexe for them to live in, even if I liked them a lot.

Dery · 18/06/2023 02:00

Your sister and her partner are letting their 7 yo down terribly. Why on earth is he calling all the shots in the family? At some level, the lack of boundaries will be scary for him. And if they continue this, they will allow him to become a child with no social skills and a child whom no-one likes.

There’s a 5 year difference between the children - it shouldn’t be that hard to maintain separate bed times and allow the 12 yo other age appropriate privileges that the younger can’t yet have. What happened to make this so hard for your sister? How does she think other families handle this stuff? For the sake of your nephew, you might need to face the awkwardness of saying something.

Countingdowntodecember · 18/06/2023 02:11

Don’t parent them for her. Every time one of the children climbs you etc, ask her firmly to stop them.

For what it’s worth I’d be really pissed off if someone put one of my children in a corner as punishment (I would, however, address their behaviour myself so that other people didn’t need to step in.

MeridianB · 05/09/2023 15:01

Since when did a parent get the option of 'hiding away' from their own children? Esp when staying at someone else's house for the whole summer!

So their dad needs to step up and your sister needs to respect some house rules, or stay at a hotel.

Sooo tempting to spoil the 12yo to make a total mockery of the 'everything must be equal'

Frogger8395 · 05/09/2023 19:25

I would not let them stay.

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