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My late father was a captain of industry and loved by many but he was a monster to his family.

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FeedHedgehogsCatBiscuits · 17/06/2023 14:49

My father was a rich and powerful man, a father figure to his employees who adored him. He was a generous employer – if someone had a sick child he would pay for the entire family to go to Disneyworld, you know the sort of thing.

He came from a working class background and married my mother, an heiress, for her money. He was such a bullying and neglectful husband that she ended up having a nervous breakdown after 10 years of marriage and was never really the same again, dying when she was only 69. He had affairs during the marriage and one of these produced a child (he used to confide in me as when I was younger, I thought he was a working class hero too and fell for all his shtick like everybody else).

During the marriage my mother paid for everything and bought his business for him as he had no money, which he then built up into a hugely successful company. He also used some of my brother’s and my inheritance to fund the sale when we were children and this was put into shares (my mother’s parents also gave him money). As he had no outgoings he was able to put everything into the business which was worth millions when he died. He became a hero of the establishment, he promoted himself as a completely self-made man and won awards and gongs but as I grew older I began to see the holes in his story.

When my mother became ill he divorced her and repaid a pittance of her investment and her contribution to his success was airbrushed from history. He was certainly a brilliant businessman but there was no gratitude to those who had helped enable his success.

When I asked questions about the shares we owned in the `family’ business he would lie about how many we owned and would change the subject. He would make a virtue of disinheriting us as he said we had our shares – shares that were very difficult to liquidate. When I went on holiday with him as a young woman he would pay for himself to go in first class while I'd be in economy.

Before his death I realised I better get on with liquidating these shares as once he was dead the business was left to his employees and wouldn’t be sold. I ended up having to threaten him with legal action and eventually our shares were sold for far less than their true value but it was the best I could do.

I went no contact at this time as while he had been charming when he was younger as he grew older his cruel nature became more obvious. My elderly vulnerable aunt, his sister, told me she had been defrauded by him when he withheld her share of their mother’s house and confided that he had drowned my step grandmother’s cat. There were many instances of cruelty to people and animals too numerous to go into here.

I was the only person who ever challenged him. My brother is a bully too and when my father abused him would just accept it so as not to rock the boat. My brother would put me down at every opportunity and was desperate to be my father’s favourite but my father despised him until I went no contact and appointed my brother his executor. My brother benefited from the sale of our shares but left it to me to do all the unpleasant work so as to keep in my father’s good books. I did think about contesting the will as he’s taken so much from my family, particularly my mother whose estate was affected substantially by his financial abuse, but no doubt this would be a waste of time.

As he was dying I was put under pressure to visit him but I never did. You’ll regret it I was told but the truth is I am so relieved I didn’t go. He had an enormous swanky funeral but nobody went to his cremation the next day, which sort of says it all.

The purpose of this post is to get this off my chest and to provide an example of how rich and powerful men get away with murder and so often are not accountable for the havoc they leave behind. At his funeral people came up to me and told me what a great man my father was but I remained silent. How many `great men’ of history are not very great at all? Rather a lot I would imagine. We all want to feel proud of our parents but I feel so ashamed of him. That is what is hardest to bear.

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FeedHedgehogsCatBiscuits · 17/06/2023 14:51

No idea what happened to the formatting! here is the rest that turned into gobblygook!

When I asked questions about the shares we owned in the `family’ business he would lie about how many we owned and would change the subject. He would make a virtue of disinheriting us as he said we had our shares – shares that were very difficult to liquidate. When I went on holiday with him as a young woman he would pay for himself to go in first class while I'd be in economy.

Before his death I realised I better get on with liquidating these shares as once he was dead the business was left to his employees and wouldn’t be sold. I ended up having to threaten him with legal action and eventually our shares were sold for far less than their true value but it was the best I could do.

I went no contact at this time as while he had been charming when he was younger as he grew older his cruel nature became more obvious. My elderly vulnerable aunt, his sister, told me she had been defrauded by him when he withheld her share of their mother’s house and confided that he had drowned my step grandmother’s cat. There were many instances of cruelty to people and animals too numerous to go into here.

I was the only person who ever challenged him. My brother is a bully too and when my father abused him would just accept it so as not to rock the boat. My brother would put me down at every opportunity and was desperate to be my father’s favourite but my father despised him until I went no contact and appointed my brother his executor. My brother benefited from the sale of our shares but left it to me to do all the unpleasant work so as to keep in my father’s good books. I did think about contesting the will as he’s taken so much from my family, particularly my mother whose estate was affected substantially by his financial abuse, but no doubt this would be a waste of time.

As he was dying I was put under pressure to visit him but I never did. You’ll regret it I was told but the truth is I am so relieved I didn’t go. He had an enormous swanky funeral but nobody went to his cremation the next day, which sort of says it all.

The purpose of this post is to get this off my chest and to provide an example of how rich and powerful men get away with murder and so often are not accountable for the havoc they leave behind. At his funeral people came up to me and told me what a great man my father was but I remained silent. How many `great men’ of history are not very great at all? Rather a lot I would imagine. We all want to feel proud of our parents but I feel so ashamed of him. That is what is hardest to bear.

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SoSo99 · 17/06/2023 15:08

This sounds so horrendous, and the fawning over these kind of people just compounds their abuse. I'm so sorry you went through this...and sadly, I imagine that it's not that rare at all.

AuntieDolly · 17/06/2023 15:27

Write a book and make money out of the bastard that way

ThreeLocusts · 17/06/2023 16:09

You have my wholehearted respect for standing up to this man. My father was a bully too who disinherited his first wife's children and airbrushed us from his history.

He had a humdrum job, and even so it was unnerving how many people who could have known better praised his parenting after his death.

To have to listen to the kind of fawning your father must have received must have been infuriating. I can't really tell you how to move on from that either. Just a friendly wave.

ThreeLocusts · 17/06/2023 16:11

Oh, and do write that book!

AdoraBell · 17/06/2023 16:17

What AuntieDolly said.

FeedHedgehogsCatBiscuits · 17/06/2023 16:21

Funny you should all say that. I've just finished writing a memoir with the full gory details. This is just the half of it.
I'm an author and this will be my fourth book: just sharpening it up before having the nerve to show it to my agent.
Watch out!

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FeedHedgehogsCatBiscuits · 17/06/2023 16:22

I think beastly father is haunting me from the grave, hence the weirdy formatting. What's that about 😯

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ElizaWinter · 17/06/2023 16:37

Sorry you had to go through this. It must be galling to hear people saying what a great person he was when you know differently.

I agree, write the book and let the world know the appalling truth. I imagine it will be cathartic to get it off your chest. Take care.

EyelessArseFace · 17/06/2023 16:47

Go onto the Companies House website, go to 'Get information about a company', do some searches and print out every single scrap of available information about all of the businesses he owned or had an interest in. Pay particular attention to the directors, shareholders, subsidiaries, holding companies, confirmation statements, dividends paid, investments in other businesses or property, and all the assets.

Then get yourself a book and learn how to read a balance sheet.

Do you happen to have any accountants among your friends who would have a look into it for you? For a small consideration, obviously.

I suspect he's spent years covering things up, moving assets around, and covering his tracks about where funding came from. When someone invests money in a business, a record is made of it, and it should be shown as a liability in the accounts until repaid. That record should still exist somewhere.

FeedHedgehogsCatBiscuits · 17/06/2023 17:00

@EyelessArseFace He hasn't done anything illegal - immoral yes but not illegal. Our money was used to buy shares in the business. He obfuscated about it but there was a public record. It's not a publicly quoted company so there was no market for the shares, but I forced the sale anyway and they caved as they didn't want public embarrassment as I was threatening legal action. Didn't get a fair price as they could basically offer what they wanted within reason. The shares were bought in 1970 so it's a long time ago and sadly my mother who was treated so badly is dead. But I'm quite litigious so if there was a legal case I'd go for it, but I've talked to lawyers about contesting the will but sadly in the UK it is very difficult.

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ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees · 17/06/2023 17:00

Sorry you had to live with his abuse.

I think you might be mistaken about all other people's view of him. A lot might have thought he was great but there will be many more who, while not necessarily knowing your family situation, but will have know what he's like. The mask often slips behind the public persona. I have worked with many assholes and often wondering who their family can cope with them at home.

I have been at several funerals where I have just said "I'm sorry for your loss" simply because it's not appropriate to say "I hope his death gives you the freedom and peace, I suspect you richly deserve"

FeedHedgehogsCatBiscuits · 17/06/2023 17:09

@ThirtyThrillionThreeTrees What I've learned is that rich and powerful men get away with murder, far more than an `ordinary' person. I imagine if a woman had behaved like my father they'd be a public outcast. As he was dying he cried and called my name a few times and it gave me some satisfaction not to rush to his deathbed for a mythical Hollywood ending.
Nobody came to his cremation.
An ignominious end for a public figure.

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EyelessArseFace · 17/06/2023 17:57

FeedHedgehogsCatBiscuits · 17/06/2023 17:00

@EyelessArseFace He hasn't done anything illegal - immoral yes but not illegal. Our money was used to buy shares in the business. He obfuscated about it but there was a public record. It's not a publicly quoted company so there was no market for the shares, but I forced the sale anyway and they caved as they didn't want public embarrassment as I was threatening legal action. Didn't get a fair price as they could basically offer what they wanted within reason. The shares were bought in 1970 so it's a long time ago and sadly my mother who was treated so badly is dead. But I'm quite litigious so if there was a legal case I'd go for it, but I've talked to lawyers about contesting the will but sadly in the UK it is very difficult.

With the greatest respect to lawyers, they are not accountants. An accountant well versed in investigating such things might be able to see what the lawyers didn't. They might be able to prove, for instance, that the shares were deliberately undervalued in order to cover up their real worth. It could be that their offer 'within reason' was not reasonable at all, and had you known their true worth, you would have been able to negotiate a higher price.

Worth a go.

FeedHedgehogsCatBiscuits · 17/06/2023 18:10

Thank you @EyelessArseFace Yes everything is worth a go. I am a woman on a mission!

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SoSo99 · 17/06/2023 18:11

Glad you have written a book about this. The more people realise what actually goes on behind closed doors, the better

FeedHedgehogsCatBiscuits · 17/06/2023 18:17

Ghandi and Martin Luther King are heroes and yet they treated their wives like shit. It's a man's world.

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AromanticSpices · 17/06/2023 18:20

It's doing the weird formatting because you're using funny inverted commas instead of the normal ones Smile Like this '

You were using this ` does it make the rest of the text go funny?

AromanticSpices · 17/06/2023 18:21

`Funny? Entirely irrelevant to the rest of your post, sorry!

FeedHedgehogsCatBiscuits · 17/06/2023 18:23

@AromanticSpices I'm glad there's a rational explanation. I thought I was being haunted from beyond the grave!

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GreekDogRescue · 17/06/2023 18:32

This is such a terrible story.
well done for whistleblowing and revealing the truth.

Bigpaintinglittlepainting · 17/06/2023 18:49

This is so interesting and I'd love to read your book, I think that society is so obsessed with the 'boy done good' story that they over look any horrible details about how they did it.

billy1966 · 17/06/2023 18:52

Well done for writing about it.

Shining a light on it is the most powerful thing you can do.

Destroying his good name and false legacy is the right thing to do and what most of these awful men fear most.

Books like yours can give others of a similar ilk, pause for thought.

Well done for not visiting him at the end.

Your poor mother.

GreekDogRescue · 18/06/2023 08:43

As you say, many great men of history were absolute shots. Oh the irony!

GreekDogRescue · 18/06/2023 08:43

Shits!

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