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Husband rewriting history

27 replies

Feelingveryconfused · 11/06/2023 15:36

DH and I haven’t been getting on for a good while now. We have an 18 year old DD still at home. There’s issues going on in our marriage that I’ve tried discussing with him, most of the time he shuts me down, minimises and invalidates my feelings. He’s called me crazy and I feel he uses gaslighting tactics. Occasionally when I’ve tried bringing issues up, he’ll agree with what I’m saying and apologise but then doesn’t change and admits later that he just said it to shut me up. So whilst I think we’re on the same page and moving forward, we’re not.

We work in the same industry that I introduced him to years ago, this has caused problems in our marriage over the years, he has discussed our marital problems in detail with mutual colleagues. When I try to tell him I don’t appreciate this and I want to be professional at work and I deserve privacy at work, he says that I shouldn’t do things I’m ashamed of and then he wouldn’t have bad things to tell people. These are just about regular marital issues. I have had friends/colleagues tell me that he’s chatting shit about me behind my back which Is so embarrassing. I brought this issue up a couple of weeks ago and he said he wouldn’t have a reason to do it if I wasn’t such a c**t. It’s like I can’t bring up anything with him because I know he’ll tell anyone who’ll listen and make out I’m a bitch. In the past he has sometimes acknowledged that this behaviour is hurtful to me and has apologised, promising not to do it again, but he always does.

He used to do the same with his family when we first got together, he would run to his mother with every disagreement we had as a couple, instead of discussing things with me. He would never include our daughter and me with his family, one night he came home after spending the day with his mother with a list of rules that I should have to abide to, that him and his mother had concocted. They were just ridiculous rules. It feels like my DH doesn’t want anyone to like me or even know me. I haven’t known any of his family or friends, whereas I have included him with everyone, family, friends and workmates.

When our DD was a baby, DH would spend his days with his mother without me and our daughter, he was a taxi driver at the time and would send the baby to my parents whilst I went off to work and he went to his mother’s to gossip about our marriage troubles and then go out to actual work on a night when DD and myself were both home. He would lie about it having been quiet at work during the day so he would have to go out to work at night, even though he had been at his mother’s all day, quite often he would go to his mother’s on an evening as well when he was supposed to be working, never involving our DD or me.

I was so desperate for his family to be involved with our DD and I would ask them to visit, ask if they wanted to have DD for the day, I would always give them first refusal if we were after a babysitter, even though my parents were always there to help and it would always be received with a sly dig and I was told they were too busy. DH’s mother went months without seeing DD when she was under one even though DH would see his mother all of the time, visiting without us.
When DD was just over one, my husband received a text from his sister, an ultimatum saying that he had to choose between them (His family) or us (DD and myself) and that blood was thicker than water. WTH, it doesn’t get much more blood than your child. I still to this day don’t know where this came from or what had been said for them to take this stance. I had only actually met them a hand full of times and had always been polite even after I knew what awful things they had been saying about me. MIL’s husband told DH that he should F*K both of us off (DD and me).

I was still trying to involve DH’s family in our DD’s life. My husband would tell me what was being said but would still relay our issues to them. Looking back it feels like he was playing both sides off of each other and it turned into an absolute drama. Growing adults playing games. When people ask me why we don’t speak to DH family, I honestly don’t have an answer, I don’t know why they gave that ultimatum or what my husband had said for them to make that decision. Even after all of this, I wanted to contact his mother to try and work things out, DH wouldn’t let me. DH has told me growing up he felt that his Mother favoured his sisters and he would have to do without. He was passed between His mum and dad’s houses, neither of them really taking on the responsibility of looking after him. I feel my DH has tried to gain his mother’s attention.

Anyway, it looks like we’re going to separate, DH has taken out a 10k loan for a car that I didn’t agree to, we moved into a house 2 years ago that desperately needs work doing, we agreed to wait another year to save for a new kitchen and he’s taken out this car loan.

There’s loads of other niggly problems, I can’t ask him to do anything without him taking offence, he is glued to his phone when at home. Literally on his phone constantly. On Whatsaap, often at 2am, when I brought this up, he snapped that I was being ridiculous and he’s just talking to work mates, til 2am?
He had an outburst the other day when I wasn’t happy about the loan, saying that I had a wardrobe of designer clothes and handbags, I absolutely do not.
He has recently accused me of being financially abusive, because I didn’t want the car loan. He has 2 current accounts and credit cards that I have nothing to do with and we share a current account which we both have full access to, he’s the one who’s taking out a 10k loan.
My sister was getting married the following day and he refused to go, DD and myself had to go to the wedding and pretend DH was Ill. It was awful having to lie.

He is now saying, after 19 years that it’s my fault he doesn’t speak to his family. He said this in front of DD, who reminded him that that he has told her that he wouldn’t want to see them. he has also admitted in the past that he knows he played a part in the fallout and he knows that I tried to help solve things. His Nan passed a couple of years ago and I tried to encourage him to go to the funeral, he didn’t want to as he said he didn’t want to be around his family.

It feels like he’s trying to rewrite the narrative of what’s happened so that he can go back to his family, tell them that I’ve been stopping him from seeing them for all these years and put all of the blame onto me, the designer clad, financially abusive, crazy wife. That way neither him or his family will need to be accountable.

He similarly made out his ex wife before me was crazy and abusive, even though he left her when she was in a mental health unit and he’d been having an affair with a woman he worked with.

I’m not sure what I want from wring this down, I guess I just want to put my feelings down in writing. It’s really hurtful that DH family did this all those years ago. DH has never listened to how this has affected me and what impact it has had on me, it is heartbreaking seeing people who should be supportive and loving reject us as a family, now DH is trying to shift that blame onto me.

OP posts:
Starlightstarbright1 · 11/06/2023 15:46

Re this back to yourself .

why are you trying ?

you and Dd deserve better.

you need to start preparing for your next steps .

he is going to rewrite history … no point fighting his delusional ideas .

knowing the truth is far better .

determinedtomakethiswork · 11/06/2023 15:54

I couldn't read all that as my blood was boiling. Why are you with this awful man? I would leave that workplace, but first of all I would leave him. I will definitely talk to my boss about what was going on as well.

Goldrushed · 11/06/2023 15:56

On a practical level, are you sure he's not taking credit out in your name? Check with clear score to make sure. If he has, get this dealt with. It's fraud and he could be prosecuted.

Work out what you need to do to separate. House, money, car etc Get planning without telling him.

Don't listen to any of his bullshit. Smile and nod if you have to but don't take it to heart. He's vile and so are his awful family so who cares what they think.

Do you work in the same company? If so speak with HR and let them know what's going on.

Are you and your daughter physically safe? Could he get nasty?

WhineWhineWhineWINE · 11/06/2023 15:56

Honestly I read as far as him calling you a c*nt and then I was done. Unacceptable.
Unforgivable.

WhineWhineWhineWINE · 11/06/2023 15:59

I've now read the rest and stand by my first response. Leave and don't look back. He can rewrite history to whoever he thinks will listen, it will no longer be your problem.

determinedtomakethiswork · 11/06/2023 15:59

Same for me @WhineWhineWhineWINE.

EyelessArseFace · 11/06/2023 16:04

Time to start getting your ducks in a row and plan to leave this despicable man. Do you want to spend the rest of your life in this horrible relationship?

Aquamarine1029 · 11/06/2023 16:11

I say this as nicely as possible... What in the fuck are you doing? Why on earth are you still with him? Have you really not read what you wrote? You should have left this man when your daughter was a baby. I'm sorry to say that your problem is you. Stop fucking about and get rid of this monstrous man.

blacksax · 11/06/2023 16:13

It appears these things are what he's told you that his family have said. And he's probably told them a pack of lies about you.

Perhaps it is time to go and speak to a good solicitor.

Manichean · 11/06/2023 16:29

This is terrible, you must get away from this vile man.

LosingMyPancakes · 11/06/2023 16:40

Agree with PPs, not sure why you're still there as it sounds he's been a knob your whole marriage??

InsomniacVampire · 11/06/2023 16:46

Leave, don't walk, run!
And I only read the first 2 paragraphs.

supercali77 · 11/06/2023 16:47

It looks to me like he drove his ex wife to a mental breakdown. How you've put up with a man like this for at least 18 years I've no idea but you absolutely and categorically will feel 1000x better if you leave. No more second guessing. No more gaslighting. No more taking the name for someone else's actions. You wont even have to share child custody with him. Is money stopping you? If not id recommend you get out of there as soon as you can

Hollyppp · 11/06/2023 16:47

So many nasty things he’s done and said. Far too many to be forgivable

supercali77 · 11/06/2023 16:48

*taking the blame

Goldrushed · 11/06/2023 16:48

Aquamarine1029 · 11/06/2023 16:11

I say this as nicely as possible... What in the fuck are you doing? Why on earth are you still with him? Have you really not read what you wrote? You should have left this man when your daughter was a baby. I'm sorry to say that your problem is you. Stop fucking about and get rid of this monstrous man.

Nice bit of victim blaming there. I'd hate to see what you'd have said if you weren't trying to be 'nice'.

3487642I · 11/06/2023 16:50

You are describing severe abuse - psychological and emotional abuse. Women's Aid exists to support women in your situation. For you and your daughter's sake, please contact Women's Aid for support.

pinkyredrose · 11/06/2023 16:50

Your poor daughter growing up with this arsehole.

3487642I · 11/06/2023 17:00

For anyone wondering why someone would stay in a situation like this please know that psychological abuse is real and has an impact on a person's thinking and self-esteem. This makes it much harder to leave a relationship that is emotionally and psychologically abusive dynamic than a healthy, non-abusive relationship.

@Feelingveryconfused, anyone who has been in a situation like the one you are in knows how awfully confusing it is, and how hard it can feel to leave. Please seek support from Women's Aid so you can create a plan for you and your daughter to get to safety.

Mirabai · 11/06/2023 17:30

It’s a terrible shame that you’ve wasted 20 odd years on this man. But it’s great that you’ve finally had enough. Get out and get on with the rest of your life this is no way to live.

WateryDoom · 11/06/2023 18:33

Who gives a shit what he says? I mean, honestly.

Let him spout whatever bollocks he likes. Just get rid of him. Go file for divorce. He and his mother can invent whatever history they like - you won't have to listen to either of them ever again.

Joolsin · 11/06/2023 18:43

God, he is an absolute and utter prick. Your life will be a million times better without him in it. Your daughter also seems to be under no illusions about him - she will be happier without him too. And once you get rid of him, you need never worry about what he is saying to anyone about you ever again - you won't care any more.

Twillow · 11/06/2023 18:49

In an ideal world, what would you want to happen?
Him to listen to you?
To acknowledge your feelings?
To apologise?

In your heart, do you think he would do any of these?
If no then you kind of have your answer. Nothing will change, whether you stay or go but you will be less hurt by separating than by staying. It might be harder initially but you will have a life free from this.

dickheed · 11/06/2023 18:57

Anyway, it looks like we’re going to separate

Good. Get rid of this abusive fucker and build your own life where you won't be gaslit and abused and blamed.

unsync · 11/06/2023 20:22

You are going to dump him aren't you? As soon as possible.