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I don't know what to do....

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Sittingonasale · 28/05/2023 21:31

This is a long story which I'm trying to make as short as possible.

I left h about 8/9 years ago. We have 3 children. I left with nothing apart from the kids and he stayed in the 'family' home which we'd bought but he was only named on the mortgage and deeds (not sure exactly why).

There was no physical abuse but I relied on him financially for everything as I was a SAHM back then and he preferred I stayed at home. I did try to work but the childcare fees were not worth it (his words).
I didn't really have any money to myself and I even had to pay for my own driving lessons and car out of the money my nan left to me when she died. H was in a good job at the time (80K/year) but we never had a shared bank account.
He was becoming quite difficult to live with. Often didn't talk to me for days and I had no idea what I'd done wrong. He was very critical of anything I did like cooking, cleaning etc even though he never did any himself. He even commented sarcastically on how I dressed the children.
When I got pregnant with my son (3rd), he wasn't happy and encouraged an abortion. I was ready to ring up and make the appointment but couldn't go through with it. After this, he was distant again and wouldn't talk about it. I felt very lonely in that pregnancy knowing he didn't really want it.
I got a lot of silences, tutting and muttering from him but never any real conversation. I was pretty broken by it all even though I couldn't make head or tail of it.
He didn't like my driving instructor (older man) and would get annoyed if I was back late. Didn't like me going out without the kids (so I hardly ever did). Got very annoyed with a person who I'd opened the door to to talk about free insulation (which we really needed) and we were talking about it when he came home. He basically made him leave straight away and left me very embarrassed. This kind of thing happened quite regularly.
I know he was working long hours, probably tired and stressed but I couldn't really put up with it any more.

Anyway, I left and went to my mum's which was about 4 hours away. I stayed there for a while then started renting nearby.
I tried to go to mediation and he agreed but suddenly pulled out at the last minute when I sent him the papers he needed to fill in for finances.
I knew my bills from the solicitor were going to go up and I really had no money back then. I quit seeing the solicitor and just left it.

A few years later he sold another house he had and said he'd give me some as a deposit for a house. I found a house, sorted a mortgage and went through hard credit checks only for him to pull out last minute and say he thought he'd 'invest' it instead.

I was able to buy my own place with help from my mum eventually and got a mortgage based on the maintenance he gave me (not court ordered), my income and some UC to top up my income.
He quit his job and decided to work on a project at home. I think he must have been living off the money from the house as this generated no real income.
Early this year, he said he'd start looking for a job again. He still hasn't found one and has no money left.
He's had to take a mortgage holiday and has told me he won't be able to afford maintenance payments until he finds one or his house sale has gone through. This is going to put a huge dent in my finances just when I need to get a new mortgage as my house has recently sold.
I don't think I'm going to get one now tbh and I don't know how I'm going to manage in the coming months.
He's said once his house has sold, he'll give me some or we can buy a larger place together to ease finances and we'd be able to buy cash with no mortgage. He also says he's been depressed recently at not finding work etc.
I really don't know how on earth he's been out of work for so long and not see this coming and I'm not sure exactly where the money has all gone from the house he sold 4 years ago although with paying his own mortgage and bills, I guess money would run out.

I really need to move with the children but because finances are about to change significantly, I don't know what to do or where to go from here.
I don't know whether to believe him and hope he's changed or whether this is just another ploy at controlling me. Before, he'd never disclose how he was feeling but he told me last week he was feeling very down about it all.

I still feel guilty sometimes about leaving and I am a people pleaser. I hate seeing people upset or upsetting people but this has not always been a good thing for me.

A few years ago, I registered an interest in the property. Now, as he's selling I need to remove it. I either have to trust him and take it off or I leave it and know he won't be able to help me financially from now.

I'm confused as to what to do. I've had really bad anxiety this year as well as health problems and I'm feeling quite low myself. In some ways, it would be nice to have someone around as I have had anxiety when I'm on my own in the house with the kids.

So, do I wait until his house has sold (and he has had offers this week) or do I go my own way now and hope he'll contribute further down the line?

Also, he refuses to get any benefit help. I asked if I could ask a friend (husband in similar line of work) if her husband had any ideas about where he could look and he got annoyed at me asking telling me to stop trying to find him a job.

I'm working 34 hours a week with 3 children on a low income. I've done this since we've been separated. I've had to take work below my skill set to fit in with school and do everything else on top. I feel a bit resentful he's been sat home 'working' for the last few years on a project that has been fruitless and now he won't even try to get help when he really needs it.

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LaDamaDeElche · 28/05/2023 21:42

You're too financially entangled with him. You need to get things sorted legally and take maintenance for your children, and any money you are owed from assets, then have a clean break and move on with your life.

Stokey · 28/05/2023 21:46

Don't buy another house with him after he's already ripped you off once. And don't feel guilty. He's already taken one house off you, you need to distance yourself from him. You don't need to listen to his problems any more. He's messed up his life, but that's not your problem.

tailinthejam · 28/05/2023 21:52

You need a shit-hot solicitor who won't take any nonsense from a man who is basically stealing what is partially yours.

Sittingonasale · 28/05/2023 21:53

I think I (and he) are probably a bit too desperate at the moment and not thinking rationally.

I guess I've not bothered doing anything because I've never had any other relationship since I left him so just kept bobbing along but now the shit hits the fan. 😬

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Sittingonasale · 28/05/2023 21:55

tailinthejam · 28/05/2023 21:52

You need a shit-hot solicitor who won't take any nonsense from a man who is basically stealing what is partially yours.

I don't think he thought I was entitled to any of it leaving me off the deeds ( I stupidly only pondered this when I left).

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Gettingbysomehow · 28/05/2023 21:58

Don't be so wet. See a solicitor get a divorce and get what you are owed. Don't go back. Don't have any more to do with him. He is taking the piss and doesn't care about you or the kids. Get bloody angry.

Cherryflavouranything · 28/05/2023 22:13

He was financially abusive during your marriage and is continuing to be now that you’ve left. You need a solicitor. He WILL screw you over again. You have absolutely no reason to assume otherwise. All he cares about is the money.

Sittingonasale · 28/05/2023 22:24

I know i'm being wet and quite possibly a doormat but he's also told me last week he thinks he would have jumped in the river or gone onto the streets to be homeless. 🤐I know it all sounds utterly rubbish but he's not said stuff like this before. I know it's not my job to sort him out either but it's very confusing.

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Bluebellsbells · 28/05/2023 22:32

The best predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour.

He's left you with three children homeless, without funds, took your ability away to own your own home- this guy thinks of nothing but himself.

You can't trust him financially, he's proved that- he needs to find his own way out of this mess, just like you had to do time and time again.

Pinkdelight3 · 29/05/2023 09:44

There was no physical abuse but I relied on him financially for everything as I was a SAHM back then and he preferred I stayed at home. I did try to work but the childcare fees were not worth it (his words).

He does not have your best interests at heart, nor the children's, you've listened to him too long and need to stop doing so and take full responsibility. Whether he's telling you not to work or that the house isn't half yours or that he's going to be homeless, he's full of shit and you need to stop listening to him. See a solicitor and get this all sorted out properly once and for all. Under no circumstances should you take his advice or give into his emotional blackmail or risk your financial security with him yet again.

tailinthejam · 29/05/2023 09:51

Sittingonasale · 28/05/2023 21:55

I don't think he thought I was entitled to any of it leaving me off the deeds ( I stupidly only pondered this when I left).

If you are married it doesn't matter whether you are on the deeds or not. It would be a joint asset, not necessarily 50/50 but you were certainly entitled to some of the proceeds.

Sittingonasale · 29/05/2023 09:55

I understand. In fact I know this is true. I just struggle with the guilt of leaving in the first place. I've never really been able to move on and have not had any kind if relationship with anyone else in that time because I know I'm still tied up in this. I am not really free even though I pretend to be by living far away.

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Pinkdelight3 · 29/05/2023 10:03

Sittingonasale · 29/05/2023 09:55

I understand. In fact I know this is true. I just struggle with the guilt of leaving in the first place. I've never really been able to move on and have not had any kind if relationship with anyone else in that time because I know I'm still tied up in this. I am not really free even though I pretend to be by living far away.

Surely getting divorced would be a massive help with that? Generally in life, you have to take the action and then the feeling comes from that e.g. you don't get confident first and then become able to do brave things, you have to do the brave thing and that gives you confidence. Hire a solicitor, sort the divorce, go through it and get this mess all sorted out, and the feeling of freedom will come. It's not going to come from you staying married, mired in this mess, feeding the (questionable) guilt and letting you get even further entrenched. If you know it's all bad for you and you keep doing it, you'll never break the cycle.

Sittingonasale · 29/05/2023 10:06

Pinkdelight3 · 29/05/2023 10:03

Surely getting divorced would be a massive help with that? Generally in life, you have to take the action and then the feeling comes from that e.g. you don't get confident first and then become able to do brave things, you have to do the brave thing and that gives you confidence. Hire a solicitor, sort the divorce, go through it and get this mess all sorted out, and the feeling of freedom will come. It's not going to come from you staying married, mired in this mess, feeding the (questionable) guilt and letting you get even further entrenched. If you know it's all bad for you and you keep doing it, you'll never break the cycle.

Thank you Pink

That's a good way of looking at it.

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