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My weight, my mother

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Alami · 27/05/2023 11:43

Hello, I am now 50 and I’d love to talk about what’s been a lifelong issue. To understand if this is weird.

I’m not especially tall, just under 5’3”. I was always a very skinny child.
Age maybe 14 I put on a bit of weight, which I now realise is normal.

I’m not sure of my weight at this point, but under 8 stone (I know I was 3 and a half stone aged 10!) so quite a jump. I probably looked a bit like I do now, so I felt fat and I started dieting... With the wisdom of a 14 yo, I went on slim fast shakes and lived off crunchie bars. I began to put on weight.

At the same time, my mum began to drink heavily. I was so so stressed. There were huge expectations on me, academically and looks wise. My dad always worked late, so I looked after my mother, counselled her, was her protector. Tried to deal with her drinking.

She was hideously abusive to me, calling me fat, stupid, ugly, disgusting, mad.

By the upper sixth I was over 9.7 stones. I was obese. Disgusting. She would tell me so. To lose weight, I used to starve all day, at school. But hunger meant I’d often binge at night. I’d then feel disgusted at myself and overeat to punish myself, eating stuff like stale cooking chocolate. I felt shit. I wasn’t allowed to socialise, my mum wouldn’t give me money and was over protective. But by now, I didn’t want to go out anyway, since I was so fat.

I worked hard at school, I got into Oxford. What she wanted. She also always told me I was stupid, maybe to spur me on. It never did. but I wanted to study a particular subject, so I applied myself (for the first time). Despite jumping through these academic hoops, she was still foul to me. Her focus was now on despising the way I looked.

In my year off, I went abroad for six weeks (linked to my future course). Instead of enjoying it, I made it my mission to lose all the weight while I was away.I starved myself. Ate almost nothing for six weeks (strictly no more than 250 calls a day). Dropped to 7’12 stone. I was so disappointed since I had expected to lose more given the concerted efforts I’d made not to eat.

From then on, I had a pathological fear of ever putting on weight. Sometimes I’d drop to 6 stone 10 but despite all my efforts, I was a failed anorexic and could never get to much less.

anyway, I’m now 50. My weight has crept up to 8 stone. I’m now 8.6 stone. Revelation: I think (?) I don’t actually look fat. I look sort of normal. I mean, part of me thinks bits of me look fat, but other bits are skinny. I’m trying to get my head around things. was my mother actually lying to me? I have almost no photos of me at that age since I wouldn’t allow myself to be photographed.

My fear of ever going over 7,7 stone, led to so many hard and wasted years when I was young. I’m recognising how unkind my mother was. I now have a 13 year old and do all I can to impress positivity.

I’m not sure the purpose of this post, perhaps to gauge things. Eg my mother always said she was telling me these things before others did. She made what she said sound like she was doing me a favour, i.e. should she lie about me being fat and disgusting?

ultimately, owing to continued efforts to keep my calorie count way down, I ended up being bulimic from 19 to 33. Sometimes I’d go on new starvation stints, to maintain the low weight. I lived in physical pain from under eating for my whole 20s (though I looked amazing, or so I was told by so many people, but I felt utterly shit).

I still have my weight at the back of my mind. I need to get to a better place. Does anyone else relate or have experience of this, or thoughts for me to consider? Sorry for the length of this post 😜. Thank you!

OP posts:
Squirrelsnut · 27/05/2023 11:47

You need to focus on your mental health, not your weight. You have been emotionally abused for years by someone should have protected you. Your weight obsession is the by-product.
Investigate therapists who specialise in this area.

continentallentil · 27/05/2023 11:48

So sorry you have been though this OP.

At 5 foot 3 and eight and a half stone you aren’t overweight as you surely know.

You need to work with a therapist to sort this complex feelings and experiences out. If you look on the BEAT site you will see a list of therapists I think. If you still have disordered eating therapy will be much more effective if you find someone who specialises in eating disorders. Speak to at least 3 people to find the right one.

If you can’t afford it speak to your GP to get on a list for a general counsellor and explore support groups through BEAT.

Alami · 27/05/2023 12:02

thanks both. I do probably need therapy. But I always think I can work it all out on my own… I know rationally what to do. But I do have a lot of anxiety (that I try to hide!) and this goes back to age 5 at least…

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PinkMendinilla · 27/05/2023 12:06

Bless you, what nasty emotional abuse you have endured. Have you considered speaking to your GP for some mental health support?

I do relate but in a slightly different way- my parents weren't as relentless as yours i don't think, but they criticised my weight (as well as build, feet size and height) from a young age, then shouted at me for being 'anorexic' if ever I didn't want to eat much as a teenager. They also belittled and laughed at me when I voiced concerns about my weight aged about 9. Stupid, thick, lazy, pathetic, weird, all those sorts of things too. Not saying it was every day but they palpably didn't approve of me. Rather than being underweight and restricting my eating, instead I have had intermittent bulimia since I was 11, and can be an emotional overeater so am actually a bit overweight (size 12-14 so not massive but still feel disgusting).

I found a private therapist really validated my feelings and made me realise that I wasn't the root problem. If you can afford this, I would highly recommend finding a therapist you get on with. I think this would be a stronger strategy than just trying to address your physical health. You could alternatively try NHS CBT.

Alami · 27/05/2023 12:16

@PinkMendinilla what a kind and empathetic post, thank you so much. I’m sorry you went through this shit. 💐

FWIW my mother still drinks and a mental health nurse told me she has likely narcissistic personality disorder. Maybe something here with your parents too… it’s a phrase that’s bandied about, but it’s a nasty personality, even if it comes from a place of their own trauma (which it often does).

“stupid, thick, pathetic, lazy”. Oh my, this rings bells.

i thought this was just what parents/mothers said.

Having a child has made me see that differently (amazing I ever had a child, I was so rotten I didn’t want to inflict my dna on any other!)

I think I really must look into therapy, now you’re the third person to say this. A lot of negativity has been heaped onto my body… hoping we both feel a lot better very soon. Great advice from you. Thanks for writing!

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Eyesopenwideawake · 27/05/2023 12:17

The first ten years of your life are absolutely crucial in terms of how you view yourself throughout your life. Why? Because during that time you simply don't have the ability to decide if what you're being told (or absorbing through observing, listening and copying behaviour) is factually true. So you take on board everything uncritically, accept it as fact and adapt yourself accordingly.

This is all held in your subconscious mind, which is why you can say I know rationally what to do but you can't accept that what your mother told you was wrong. She probably had the same problem with her own mother, both of whom lived through periods of extreme privation. It may not have been her being deliberately cruel but her words and actions have affected you deeply.

Have a look at this guide to core beliefs to better understand yourself;

https://www.betterrelationships.org.au/well-being/core-beliefs-self-acceptance/

CrotchetyQuaver · 27/05/2023 14:13

Yes I had a mother who didn't drink but was obsessed with my size and I always felt a failure whether because of weight gain or not living up to her expectations. She died a couple of years ago, it's much easier now but overcoming the buggered up metabolism took a long time. I always felt nothing I ever did was good enough for her.
Not quite the same as you but not miles off

Thesunwillcomeoutverysoon · 27/05/2023 14:21

My dm was anorexic during my teens. She used to make me measure my thighs with a tape measure to show she was thinner.. During my divorce I became so thin I had sores on my face from malnutrition. When i met now dh I was 8 stone at 5.4..happier now over 10 stone...
Oh and went nc with dm 20 years ago. Def recommend it op.

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