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Who the f does he think he is, Mr Big or something?

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Bewilderedbothredbemused · 22/05/2023 13:41

I don’t even know what to title this thread, was mooting between ‘ the one who got away’ or ‘who the f does he think he is, mr Big?’ Or just ‘ this is so fucked up’

this post isn’t necessarily straight about this particular series of events that has happened to me but it’s got me wondering about this specific kind of man, that sort of mr big guy and what the f do they actually think they’re playing at.

so backstory, will keep it short. I’ve been married for nearly 10 years. 2.5 dcs (one is cooking haha)

i was late to the dating scene, arrived early 20s with online dating. Met one guy, had chemistry, seemed nice, messages got from flirty banter to not respecting boundaries and aggressively sexual. Declined further meet ups. Carried on. Few months later he’d message me again, in bored state sometimes would message back. Mostly saying not really dtf. Bumped into each other (drunk) at a club think danced maybe kissed (drunk and 10 + years ago so can’t recall). Messages after that. Then met hubs to be, no more messages. He’d message and I’d say with someone/ married etc not interested ( He’d insist to be friends, I stopped replying last messages 5+ years ago. Then last year DM passed away, he read obit and reached out with a sorry, I replied in saying thanks not really thinking. That was that… or so I thought. Then messages again saying first that he got married and had a kid, then bam how I was the one who got away and how amazing etc I am (eyeroll) and how he desperately misses me and how he’s jealous my husband ‘took me from him’.

He’s been blocked so it’s not a question of advice or anything. But honestly this sort of man. If we met 3/4 times that would be it, tops. I cannot fathom what is going through this sort of blokes head. We should’ve got married, im the one who got away… we met a handful of times and you creeped me out and it was 10 years ago. I actually think I’m quite offended at even the idea of messaging me. I can only assume he was trying to start an affair?

if you’ve kept up with my rambling, well done. But I needed to get this out of my head. It just reminds me of Big in sex and the city, who married someone and then decided to try come back and seemingly actively try to wreck Carrie’s life and sabotage her relationship. (I know Carrie was a tool as well, but for the purposes of this comparison)

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Tlolljs · 22/05/2023 17:46

He just wants to get his dick wet.
Probably texting about half a dozen.

Bewilderedbothredbemused · 22/05/2023 17:47

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 22/05/2023 17:15

Easily the best thread title I've seen in Relationships. Good luck with the baby, and like the others have said try not to give this chancer any headspace.

Decided against ‘Alexa okay ‘that don’t impress me much’ by shania Twain’

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Stickykidney · 22/05/2023 17:47

I was thinking this earlier! I have a few that come out the woodwork now and again.... It must have a success rate. I bet loads of us get it.
Then again a few that I have just lost touch with/time wasn't right... Again from years ago but just hey how you doing, how's life treating you now... Always when they are single.
But one in particular is actually sending intimate photos of himself and sayinginh I have always been the one... Luckily I find it funny. Yes I know I should block it actually hadn't occurred to me.

Vkieabbi · 22/05/2023 17:48

Just want some honesty even if I am to blame. Thanking everyone in advance.
My husband is aware of this post and actually advised me to post it to get the opinion from others.
I have been with my husband for almost 20 years and we have two children together. A 2 year old and a 3 1/2 month old.

We had our hiccups like most couples but we had a huge one, which resulted in my husband not being invited to family events.

About 1 year and a half ago I was out with my in-laws and I felt my mother in law was rude to me. She interrupted a conversation Inwas having with my brother in law, to inform me that when my husband had been younger he had the opportunity to date a slim good looking Bulgarian girl. I personally didn’t see why she meantioned that when my brother in law and I, had been talking about soaps he liked. But I responded with, “Whatever relationships my husband had before we were married, is perfectly fine as we weren’t together then.“

A week or so after that our eldest was crying and; my husband told him,”What’s the matter. Do you want a new Mummy?” I told my husband that I didn’t think it was a funny joke and asked him not to say it again. We go out for a family meal with my in laws and he says this joke to our son,”Do you want a new Mummy?” In front of his mother at a restaurant. I was really upset. At home I told my husband that I had asked him not to say that joke again but he had said it anyway, which really upset me. He apologised and I spoke to my Mum about it and it upset her that he would behave like that.

Afterwards one of my cousin’s contacted me and invited me to a VIP event at Downing Street her workplace, she told me she was aware that I didn’t go out anywhere and really wanted me to go. I was so excited that I agreed. My Mum was in the car with me heard and made arrangements with my step Dad to go. Meaning that there weren’t enough tickets for my husband to come. Still as my step father said he didn’t want to go as he wasn’t asked, I waited to see if that ticket would be available soon. I also tried to buy another ticket. As it was a VIP event the tickets were limited and my cousin’s fiancé gave up his ticket. So that someone else from mu side of the family could go. I waited to see if a ticket would be available for my husband but; none came available. I also asked him on 3 separate occasions if he did mind, if me and our child (our 2nd wasn’t born then) if we could go. He said we could and then at the last minute he changed his mind.

As it was a Downing Street évent we had to have background checks, they even knew that I was bringing a baby and made accommodations. But my husband did not want me to go and seeing that I had made up my mind to go as arrangements had been made and he had told me on 3 separate occasions that I could go. He then told me,“You can’t go if there is a bomb scare can you?“ He also threatened to speak to my Uncle’s wife about my Aunty being a bi**h (cousin’s mother) as he felt that my Cousin’s mother, was responsible for him not getting a ticket. Even though the VIP tickets were so limited that even my Grandmother was going.

My husband tells me now that he had no intention of going through with the threat but he was just angry and thinking of anything he could to stop me and our child from going. In my mind I visualised security guards tackling me to the ground because they thought I had a bomb and our child being frightened and, the trouble which would be caused if my husband began speaking badly to other members about my Aunty. So I told my mother that I couldn’t go. I explained why thinking nothing of it as we are close and my mother has told me personal things about my father in law which I have shared with no one. She was appalled at what my husband had done. When my cousin’s mother found out, she wanted to inform the Police but I talked her out of it. My cousin also wanted to speak to my husband in person over the phone but I didn’t want any arguments to occur. After that my cousin and Aunty became really concerned about my lifestyle and how my husband might be treating me.

Since then we have not had a Christmas with my Grandmother and the rest of the family as my husband has not been invited. My Grandmother wanted my husband to come but my mother didn’t. So we didn’t go. We have all been invited to my Grandmother’s birthday do last year.

While pregnant with my second I had painful swollen ankles, was sick throughout my whole pregnancy but still did all of my housework duties. Like cook, put the bins out. Do my husband’s lunch, ironing e.t.c My husband felt I was being distant with him so he began insinuating he was having an affair with a collègue at work and comparing my second pregnancy to other women at work. Saying that being pregnant wasn’t an illness and I could do more things. During this time my husband told me I was,”Slow” accused me of being a “gold digger” and using him just to have children. When I had been working full time I used to give him £600 a month. So his words were quite hurtful. I had even asked him before we had children if we could afford it on is wage and he said we could. My blood pressure went sky high and I ended up giving birth a little over a week early.

I wasn’t sure if I was the issue so asked my husband if he wanted a divorce he said he didn’t. I knew he had had some issues at a LARP évent he attended and thought it would be nice if we went together with my nephew who is 8. But when I contacted them they informed me that due to my husband’s behaviour they would never invite him to any of their events again. This is a family event with people attending from all around the world and my husband never told me. So I was really shocked but they assured me that my husband was aware of the pernament ban.

Because of my husbands temper I packed my things, took our children and went to my Grandmother’s for some respite. My husband apologised for his behaviour and promised to go to anger managment. So after about 4 days at my Grandmother’s we all came back.

Some time after we were home one of my brother in laws came to the house trying to come in while it was just me and the children in the house. My husband was out. He called my husband a n*gger lover and, threatened to kill him. I never phoned the police because my mother in law had prevented me from doing so in the past and told me he suffered from
bipolar. I had to phone my husband to
come home and, I phoned her to remove my brother in law from the door. I was so frightened that I shaking and hid with my baby in the kitchen while, my toddler slept upstairs.

My mother in law appeared pleasant in front of the ring cameras at the front door but when she was in the house she cursed me out. Told me that I should never of come back, that it was a dirty trick what I played on my husband. I was holding my baby and shaking as she was talking to me like this. (I had allowed my husband to sit in one of my private appointments with my midwife and he reported everything to his Mum.)

My husband wanted me to see my mother one Thursday a week and the rest of the family one Saturday a month. To focus on our family. The midwives were concerned about my rising blood pressure and I briefly informed them that, I only saw my mother once a week and the rest of the family once a month. The rest of my friends live outside the city or have moved to other countries so really my family is my only support system. The midwives were concerned about me getting post natal depression due to how close my children are in ahe and informed me that my husband’s relationship with my mother was not their concern. My health and that of my children was. They couldn’t understand why I would only see my mother once a week and asked if I could see her more than once a week. If I wanted to. I did go out once with my Mum not on my usual day to see a plant exhibition and poetry performance. My husband was so upset that he never came home that night.

Anyway, my mother in law left me in tears and in front of my husband behaved caring. A day or so later when the police were informed of the incident with my brother in law, they stated that I should have called them as my brother in law had been threatening. And told my husband that regardless of what him and my mother in law thought, I should be allowed to do so. And they also took the video footage of my brother in law trying to come into the house kicking the door e.t.c

Sorry this is so long.

Since all of this has happened I recently discovered that there are 2 family events I am not invited to, as my family know that my husband will be present and they don’t want him there.

I also made him aware that I know about the ban at his LARP game and have been told by some of his ex friends, why they ended their friendship with him. One says that they said it’s his temper and how he treats others, one says it’s his temper and how he ruined his game.

There was also a staff member who made a formal complaint about him saying he was aggressive and threatening.

I apologised to my husband for everything that has happened. Am I in the wrong here? If I didn’t say anything to my Mum, my family would still get on with my husband.

Wonderingifitstimetogo · 22/05/2023 17:50

I had a friend completely stop talking to me after i married my DH. Apparently he had been waiting for me to grow up and get the 'bad boy' nonsense out of my system so I could marry a 'nice guy' like him and he was genuinely enraged I had decided to marry someone else.

My exs were not bad men, they just weren't the right men and are now happily settled with women who are right for them

My DH is genuinely a nice guy

The friend was not a nice guy, and I had already turned him down multiple times because every time he got drunk he would get close to the point of sexual assault in trying to get me to sleep with him. I literally never would go out alone with him and he was only a friend because he was part of the wider friendship group.

But he's still adamant that I betrayed him and that I was supposed to know that I was meant to marry him and I'd been a bitch by marrying someone else.

Bewilderedbothredbemused · 22/05/2023 17:52

Vkieabbi · 22/05/2023 17:48

Just want some honesty even if I am to blame. Thanking everyone in advance.
My husband is aware of this post and actually advised me to post it to get the opinion from others.
I have been with my husband for almost 20 years and we have two children together. A 2 year old and a 3 1/2 month old.

We had our hiccups like most couples but we had a huge one, which resulted in my husband not being invited to family events.

About 1 year and a half ago I was out with my in-laws and I felt my mother in law was rude to me. She interrupted a conversation Inwas having with my brother in law, to inform me that when my husband had been younger he had the opportunity to date a slim good looking Bulgarian girl. I personally didn’t see why she meantioned that when my brother in law and I, had been talking about soaps he liked. But I responded with, “Whatever relationships my husband had before we were married, is perfectly fine as we weren’t together then.“

A week or so after that our eldest was crying and; my husband told him,”What’s the matter. Do you want a new Mummy?” I told my husband that I didn’t think it was a funny joke and asked him not to say it again. We go out for a family meal with my in laws and he says this joke to our son,”Do you want a new Mummy?” In front of his mother at a restaurant. I was really upset. At home I told my husband that I had asked him not to say that joke again but he had said it anyway, which really upset me. He apologised and I spoke to my Mum about it and it upset her that he would behave like that.

Afterwards one of my cousin’s contacted me and invited me to a VIP event at Downing Street her workplace, she told me she was aware that I didn’t go out anywhere and really wanted me to go. I was so excited that I agreed. My Mum was in the car with me heard and made arrangements with my step Dad to go. Meaning that there weren’t enough tickets for my husband to come. Still as my step father said he didn’t want to go as he wasn’t asked, I waited to see if that ticket would be available soon. I also tried to buy another ticket. As it was a VIP event the tickets were limited and my cousin’s fiancé gave up his ticket. So that someone else from mu side of the family could go. I waited to see if a ticket would be available for my husband but; none came available. I also asked him on 3 separate occasions if he did mind, if me and our child (our 2nd wasn’t born then) if we could go. He said we could and then at the last minute he changed his mind.

As it was a Downing Street évent we had to have background checks, they even knew that I was bringing a baby and made accommodations. But my husband did not want me to go and seeing that I had made up my mind to go as arrangements had been made and he had told me on 3 separate occasions that I could go. He then told me,“You can’t go if there is a bomb scare can you?“ He also threatened to speak to my Uncle’s wife about my Aunty being a bi**h (cousin’s mother) as he felt that my Cousin’s mother, was responsible for him not getting a ticket. Even though the VIP tickets were so limited that even my Grandmother was going.

My husband tells me now that he had no intention of going through with the threat but he was just angry and thinking of anything he could to stop me and our child from going. In my mind I visualised security guards tackling me to the ground because they thought I had a bomb and our child being frightened and, the trouble which would be caused if my husband began speaking badly to other members about my Aunty. So I told my mother that I couldn’t go. I explained why thinking nothing of it as we are close and my mother has told me personal things about my father in law which I have shared with no one. She was appalled at what my husband had done. When my cousin’s mother found out, she wanted to inform the Police but I talked her out of it. My cousin also wanted to speak to my husband in person over the phone but I didn’t want any arguments to occur. After that my cousin and Aunty became really concerned about my lifestyle and how my husband might be treating me.

Since then we have not had a Christmas with my Grandmother and the rest of the family as my husband has not been invited. My Grandmother wanted my husband to come but my mother didn’t. So we didn’t go. We have all been invited to my Grandmother’s birthday do last year.

While pregnant with my second I had painful swollen ankles, was sick throughout my whole pregnancy but still did all of my housework duties. Like cook, put the bins out. Do my husband’s lunch, ironing e.t.c My husband felt I was being distant with him so he began insinuating he was having an affair with a collègue at work and comparing my second pregnancy to other women at work. Saying that being pregnant wasn’t an illness and I could do more things. During this time my husband told me I was,”Slow” accused me of being a “gold digger” and using him just to have children. When I had been working full time I used to give him £600 a month. So his words were quite hurtful. I had even asked him before we had children if we could afford it on is wage and he said we could. My blood pressure went sky high and I ended up giving birth a little over a week early.

I wasn’t sure if I was the issue so asked my husband if he wanted a divorce he said he didn’t. I knew he had had some issues at a LARP évent he attended and thought it would be nice if we went together with my nephew who is 8. But when I contacted them they informed me that due to my husband’s behaviour they would never invite him to any of their events again. This is a family event with people attending from all around the world and my husband never told me. So I was really shocked but they assured me that my husband was aware of the pernament ban.

Because of my husbands temper I packed my things, took our children and went to my Grandmother’s for some respite. My husband apologised for his behaviour and promised to go to anger managment. So after about 4 days at my Grandmother’s we all came back.

Some time after we were home one of my brother in laws came to the house trying to come in while it was just me and the children in the house. My husband was out. He called my husband a n*gger lover and, threatened to kill him. I never phoned the police because my mother in law had prevented me from doing so in the past and told me he suffered from
bipolar. I had to phone my husband to
come home and, I phoned her to remove my brother in law from the door. I was so frightened that I shaking and hid with my baby in the kitchen while, my toddler slept upstairs.

My mother in law appeared pleasant in front of the ring cameras at the front door but when she was in the house she cursed me out. Told me that I should never of come back, that it was a dirty trick what I played on my husband. I was holding my baby and shaking as she was talking to me like this. (I had allowed my husband to sit in one of my private appointments with my midwife and he reported everything to his Mum.)

My husband wanted me to see my mother one Thursday a week and the rest of the family one Saturday a month. To focus on our family. The midwives were concerned about my rising blood pressure and I briefly informed them that, I only saw my mother once a week and the rest of the family once a month. The rest of my friends live outside the city or have moved to other countries so really my family is my only support system. The midwives were concerned about me getting post natal depression due to how close my children are in ahe and informed me that my husband’s relationship with my mother was not their concern. My health and that of my children was. They couldn’t understand why I would only see my mother once a week and asked if I could see her more than once a week. If I wanted to. I did go out once with my Mum not on my usual day to see a plant exhibition and poetry performance. My husband was so upset that he never came home that night.

Anyway, my mother in law left me in tears and in front of my husband behaved caring. A day or so later when the police were informed of the incident with my brother in law, they stated that I should have called them as my brother in law had been threatening. And told my husband that regardless of what him and my mother in law thought, I should be allowed to do so. And they also took the video footage of my brother in law trying to come into the house kicking the door e.t.c

Sorry this is so long.

Since all of this has happened I recently discovered that there are 2 family events I am not invited to, as my family know that my husband will be present and they don’t want him there.

I also made him aware that I know about the ban at his LARP game and have been told by some of his ex friends, why they ended their friendship with him. One says that they said it’s his temper and how he treats others, one says it’s his temper and how he ruined his game.

There was also a staff member who made a formal complaint about him saying he was aggressive and threatening.

I apologised to my husband for everything that has happened. Am I in the wrong here? If I didn’t say anything to my Mum, my family would still get on with my husband.

Did you mean to post that here? I’m confused

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Bewilderedbothredbemused · 22/05/2023 17:54

Wonderingifitstimetogo · 22/05/2023 17:50

I had a friend completely stop talking to me after i married my DH. Apparently he had been waiting for me to grow up and get the 'bad boy' nonsense out of my system so I could marry a 'nice guy' like him and he was genuinely enraged I had decided to marry someone else.

My exs were not bad men, they just weren't the right men and are now happily settled with women who are right for them

My DH is genuinely a nice guy

The friend was not a nice guy, and I had already turned him down multiple times because every time he got drunk he would get close to the point of sexual assault in trying to get me to sleep with him. I literally never would go out alone with him and he was only a friend because he was part of the wider friendship group.

But he's still adamant that I betrayed him and that I was supposed to know that I was meant to marry him and I'd been a bitch by marrying someone else.

Ah the ‘nice guy’ … love that ☹️

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Wonderingifitstimetogo · 22/05/2023 17:56

Bewilderedbothredbemused · 22/05/2023 17:54

Ah the ‘nice guy’ … love that ☹️

The typical nice guy as well with all that underlying rage that he's not getting the women he wants and not realising that it's actually because he's not that nice at all 🙄

Vkieabbi · 22/05/2023 18:24

How do I delete this and start it as a fresh post. I’m so sorry. I didn’t mean to post it under someone else post.

DatingDinosaur · 22/05/2023 18:36

@Bewilderedbothredbemused you wrote “Seems a bit like lovebombing”

No. It seems a bit stalkerish.

The suggestion about screenshots is good. But don’t send them to his wife, tell him if he contacts you again you’ll send them to the Police.

This sounds like it’s gone way beyond a bit of harmless lovelorn infatuation don't you think.

Bewilderedbothredbemused · 22/05/2023 19:11

DatingDinosaur · 22/05/2023 18:36

@Bewilderedbothredbemused you wrote “Seems a bit like lovebombing”

No. It seems a bit stalkerish.

The suggestion about screenshots is good. But don’t send them to his wife, tell him if he contacts you again you’ll send them to the Police.

This sounds like it’s gone way beyond a bit of harmless lovelorn infatuation don't you think.

I don’t ever think it was infatuation I think it’s that message you can win someone over but I’m safe he doesn’t know where I live or anything

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DatingDinosaur · 22/05/2023 19:19

Yeah, but he won't leave you alone and he won't take no (or silence) for an answer.

He doesn't need to know where you live to be a weird stalker.

Bewilderedbothredbemused · 22/05/2023 19:40

DatingDinosaur · 22/05/2023 19:19

Yeah, but he won't leave you alone and he won't take no (or silence) for an answer.

He doesn't need to know where you live to be a weird stalker.

That’s really true actually! As bizarre as it might sound, I didn’t really think of it that way. So good point, thank you! X

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