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Friend is trapped in a marriage that makes her unhappy, what can I do?

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BettyBoopBetty · 22/05/2023 11:39

This is not an easy story, will try to summarise it as much as I can.
My DF and her DH have been together ever since they were teenagers, they both only ever had each other and ended up getting married and having a child (as adults) even though they were clearly making each other unhappy. They just always had the type of relationship where they don't agree on anything, continuously argue and have screaming matches etc. Things have gone much worse since they had their DD 5 years ago. He suffers with anxiety and has a very bad temper and has the habit of screaming at them when he is upset, becomes verbally abusive, especially with my friend (never physically it seems) and just utterly unreasonable. They have been up and down continuously over the tears, tried couple's therapy (which he didn't want to do but was almost forced to and obv didn't work out), tried to talk, etc but nothing seems to make a difference.
I think DF is stuck because she is now in a position where he is all she has ever known relationship-wise and they have a DD and doesn't want to be a single mum. On top of this, she also fears he will be ever more horrible as her "enemy" so prefers to stay together and "fight" for the family instead. Every time there is a big argument she calls me upset and in tears saying she doesn't want to raise her DD like this and she doesn't know what to do... then they somehow leave it behind them and just carry on until the next argument... etc etc.

Personally, I feel she is wasting her life to be with someone who not only has serious issues, but is also completely incompatible with her, as well as verbally and emotionally abusive and she is also exposing her DD to these family dynamics and unhappiness. I do understand how difficult the whole situation is though, it's not like walking away from a boyfriend you've just met. I am always there for her and all I do is listen and try to keep an open mind and not judge her but I wonder whether I should be doing more instead?

I just wish she took the courage to leave him and finally start a life without him but she doesn't seem to be wanting that, she keeps saying the should try couple's therapy again with a new therapist (her DH is dead against it)...

What would you do in these circumstances? I think they will never break up and will just be one of those families that carry on like this all their lives, maybe things will be better once their DD is an adult and leaves home, maybe not, I am not sure.

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CalistoNoSolo · 22/05/2023 12:16

Keep out of it and distance myself. I couldn't be friends with a person who actively chooses to keep her child in an abusive relationship.

gamerchick · 22/05/2023 12:19

Poor kid being stuck in the middle of that shit.

Tell her you don't want to hear anymore until she's ready to protect her child leave him. Then you will help.

Seas164 · 22/05/2023 12:20

Couples therapy should never be entered if there is abuse.

Be there for her, keep an open mind, listen and don't judge, and that's about as much as you can do. If she ever does get to the point where she is ready to leave, having a friend who hasn't lost patience with her and dropped her, will make it more likely to happen.

InBedBy10 · 22/05/2023 13:43

Stay out of it. As hard as it is to see your friend unhappy, this is her life to sort out not yours.

TBH you sound far too invested. Tell her you don't want to hear it anymore as nothing ever changes. You need to distance yourself from this relationship.

BigMandsTattooPortfolio · 22/05/2023 13:57

My advice is based on bitter experience. You sound a little too emotionally invested in their dysfunction. Don’t get involved, keep your distance and disentangle yourself emotionally from this couple’s drama. As for being there and listening, friendship is a two way dynamic and it sounds like you do all the listening.

BettyBoopBetty · 22/05/2023 14:14

@BigMandsTattooPortfolio no, she is also always there for me.
I sound invested because she is my best friend and we have a very special bond and speak almost every day, and she always tells me about what she is going through with him. I am the only person (except her therapist) who knows about these dynamics and I want her to be able to open up, she needs it.

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WilkinsonM · 22/05/2023 14:16

She needs to find the strength to leave him. Maybe send her some literature to read from women's aid website or something? Suggest she does the freedom program online?

Isheabastard · 22/05/2023 14:22

Some people just have a greater deal of drama in their lives than most and can live with it.

But if she is not like this, I’d suggest that she find a well qualified therapist for herself.

She may then get the validation she needs to think about leaving him, like I did. I would also suggest she finds out what her financial situation would be if she left. Talking to a solicitor may help her understand what the process is and enable her to cope if he turns nasty.

She should also know and understand her finances and know where all the paperwork is. She knows what her present life is like, she also needs to know what her future life would look like. Wikivorce is a useful website.

I can understand having a friend like this is very wearing, but you don’t mention this, so I assume your question is completey altruistic, and you just want her to have a happier life.

Ifyouare ok being her sounding board then perhaps ask her if she thinks she wants to live like this for the next 5, 10, 20 years?

Otherwise back off as suggested by other posters. But you know your friend and yourself, so just do what feels right.

I am currently ugly divorcing, and would love to have a friend like you to support me.

BigMandsTattooPortfolio · 22/05/2023 14:25

Yes, I had a friend who did this, but it can go on and on, never resolving and it’s a lot to put on you. After years of being in your position I became exhausted and drained by it all. You can help her more by keeping an emotional distance and maintaining your boundaries. As I say, I speak from bitter experience.

BettyBoopBetty · 22/05/2023 15:18

@Isheabastard so sorry to hear this, I wish you best of luck and many beautiful things will come, I am sure.🌺

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SpeedReader · 22/05/2023 15:52

I do not think there is anything more that you can do, as it's not your role to run her life or to try to drive her decision-making. She has to decide that she wants to end the relationship. In the meantime, you can listen to her and validate her feelings and (if appropriate) provide your own insights or suggestions. As others have said, it sounds like she would benefit from individual counselling - so if there was one thing I'd be trying to encourage, it would be this.

BettyBoopBetty · 22/05/2023 16:27

She has been going to therapy for years as it’s the only way she can deal with this situation. Thanks for the suggestions though

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