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Pursuitofhappines · 16/05/2023 16:01

Hi all,

So I am currently going through a situation and would just like to see what people thought of this. I feel like I already know what to do but there is a very thin line of hope I am holding on to.

ps I have been going to therapy since all this started.

I am a 35F, and recently got married to someone from the usa. I relocated last December (from the uk) and we were married by January (all planned).

Before we got married, I discovered some things about my husband. We had been dating long distance for roughly 2years and I really did think I knew him well enough. Here are some things;

a) He was into an alternative lifestyle of sex parties etc and he actually took me to some as I was curious about it all and really did care for him so I thought maybe if I am open, it would be good for our relationship. I really thought he was not serious at first but he was. He saw it as an initiation of some sorts and in the end I could tell that he wanted us to be involved in that type of alternative lifestyle in the forseable future.

b) Turns out during the 2years we were dating, he would drop me off at the airport and then head to sex parties afterwards. (Only reason I found out was because i found a receipt of his entrance payment in December before we married). Questioned him about it and he denied it at first but then came clean and said he was looking for a place for us to go to (trying them out first in a sense).

c) Before we married again, a delivery came through, and I was home alone that day. I opened it and it was some lube. I obviously thought it was for us, so i sealed it back up and retreated back and went back to my office to work. When he came home I could hear him shuffling around in and out of the house so i came out of the office, he was in the kitchen reading mail. Immediately i felt like a whole rock had dropped in my stomach and I asked him what happened to the package that was delivered. He looked shook. He did not realise I had already opened it and knew what was in it so he tried to hide saying it was work stuff. I forced him to show me where he put it, and eventually (after an hour of back and forth yelling) he led me outside to his truck and under the back seat where there is a storage compartment was where he had put/ hid them. So obviously I asked why he hid them, as my head was spinning at this point. Took him another two hours and me breaking shit in the house for him to finally take me to his empty rented property, where he showed me his stash of dildos (all shapes and sizes) 3 bags full, about 200 of them. 🥺. When we got to the house i had to fight to get into the property with him and it took us roughly another 2 hours before he finally let me in on his hiding spot.

To say I was shocked was an understatement because he had never mentioned any of this. He came clean that he loved a prostate massage, I am no prude so again, I remained open minded and tried to understand him and make sense of it all. Mind all this is happening about a week to our wedding. I was so confused because the man I thought I loved wasn’t the person I thought he was.

Up until I said I do, I was riddled with anxiousness and doubt and really was in autopilot. I can genuinely say that I did not at all enjoy my wedding. My cousin and brother that I had confided in had shut me out and wanted nothing to do with him, or even hear his name.

d) Now something else has come up, his addiction to porn, specifically gay porn. He watches it everyday and its in copious amounts, I know for a fact he is addicted to it and that he possibly is gay or bi, even though he continuously declines this. I’ve seen all his searches, including searches of trannies (apologies for the offensive word use) near me (i.e his location) or just about any fetish he has on the phone near him. Asked him about that he said he was just looking and hasn’t met anyone yet.

This is someone I really do love this, or at least the version of him that I thought he was. We had a whole future planned out, or rather I believed in everything he said. But the more I stay with him, the more everything affects me. I am hesitant to leave for various obvious reasons, age, loneliness, I literally relocated for this person, and feel like my world has been crushed by the person I loved the most….

Just asking for a hand hold as I get through this mess… I can’t trust anyone again in real life after being flamed by my cousin and brother. But i just feel so alone.

Thanks for reading all that.

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CharlottenBurger · 16/05/2023 16:19

Oh dear! Have you got enough money for a single ticket back to the UK? If not, have you got any relatives who can lend it to you? You married a weirdo and do you really want to spend the rest of your life like this?

Specso · 16/05/2023 16:24

I understand why you feel hesitant to leave after investing so much in him but I really would go back home, divorce and put it all behind you.

This will not get any better but MUCH worse.

Pursuitofhappines · 16/05/2023 16:24

@CharlottenBurger luckily yes I do, I would like to file for my divorce before leaving, so working through that for now.

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Seas164 · 16/05/2023 16:26

I am hesitant to leave for various obvious reasons, age, loneliness, I literally relocated for this person, and feel like my world has been crushed by the person I loved the most….

The amount of crushed you feel now is nothing compared to the amount of crushed you will feel in ten years if you cling on to this marriage.

You say you were shocked and that was an understatement because he never mentioned any of these things, I think requires a fairly large dollop of denial. Horses for courses, what people do in their own time is their own business but when you marry there is a certain amount of disclosure that is necessary. That didn't happen here.

The signs were there, you married him anyway, and now the future you planned isn't as compatible with your reality as you'd hoped. Safeguard your health immediately if you're still having sex with him. Cut your losses and start again, on your own and on your own terms.

Pursuitofhappines · 16/05/2023 16:26

@Specso that’s what is killing me right now, I uprooted everything and now this is all I have left to show for trying to see the best in somebody 😞

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Pursuitofhappines · 16/05/2023 16:40

@Seas164 he was the first person I had dated since my last relationship ended in 2018. You are right, I was in denial and have been. I just wanted it to work out and invested all i was into it. Now I just feel lost.

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Pashazade · 16/05/2023 16:46

Honestly in two years time this will be a temporary blip on your life radar. Get divorce proceedings underway, come home, big girl pants on and keep moving forward. It's horrible and I know how much we deceive ourselves when we desperately want things to be a particular way but this is never going to improve. He's been deceitful from the off. He's never going to be honest with you as he doesn't appear to be honest with himself as he certainly appears bisexual if not gay. Get out and move on you can do this.

EvenMoreFuriousVexation · 16/05/2023 16:51

Cut your losses and move home asap. Start the divorce remotely?

You need to get out of there before you end up getting arrested. You've already become violent. Just get out and leave him to his sex parties.

Seas164 · 16/05/2023 16:58

When you're an old lady and your legs can't take you where you want to go you'll have a lot of time to sit and remember all the situations you've been in in your life, and although it doesn't feel it now, if you frame it right, this will be amusing. Remember the time when I moved to America to marry that guy with the bag of 200 dildos?

Honestly, it feels like the end of the world, but it isn't. You're more than your marriage to him, or anyone for that matter. You took a chance, so what. It didn't work out. Onwards. Maybe before you fly home, if that's what you're planning, book a trip for yourself somewhere amazing, have a week in Palm Springs by the pool, a trip to Austin, drink some frozen margaritas somewhere, hit New York, on your own and make some more memories.

You're going to be alright.

Reggiebo · 16/05/2023 17:20

Seas164...this made me laugh..the guy with a bag of 200dildos....I agree ..as you say time to move on and make a new life.

Mabelface · 16/05/2023 17:25

I think you'll find that your brother and cousin would be massively relieved if you came home. Don't waste another single minute of your life on this marriage. Get out as soon as you physically can. Get home.

Pursuitofhappines · 16/05/2023 17:26

@Seas164 yeah, i do love a margarita, just as you said it a friend has just arrived with some. She knows I have been on the low and wanted to cheer me. She is from here and has been a dear friend although the backlash I received from family was enough to make me withdraw from sharing to anyone else in real life….

I would actually love the idea of a holiday but tbh I don’t even think i am in any mood for one atm, I just want to be in complete isolation possibly in a dark room and a lot of margaritas watching shit shows….

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CharlottenBurger · 16/05/2023 17:32

Reggiebo · 16/05/2023 17:20

Seas164...this made me laugh..the guy with a bag of 200dildos....I agree ..as you say time to move on and make a new life.

What would be (slightly) worse would be if he stood them all up on shelves, gave each one a name, and talked to them. A colleague once confided that her husband had bought her a 'rabbit ears' vibrator from Ann Summers and it had 'saved their marriage'. They called it 'Magic Bunny'. She also said that fresh batteries were a must 'to avoid disappointment at a crucial moment'. She actually said that.

SunflowerTed · 16/05/2023 17:37

Pursuitofhappines · 16/05/2023 16:01

Hi all,

So I am currently going through a situation and would just like to see what people thought of this. I feel like I already know what to do but there is a very thin line of hope I am holding on to.

ps I have been going to therapy since all this started.

I am a 35F, and recently got married to someone from the usa. I relocated last December (from the uk) and we were married by January (all planned).

Before we got married, I discovered some things about my husband. We had been dating long distance for roughly 2years and I really did think I knew him well enough. Here are some things;

a) He was into an alternative lifestyle of sex parties etc and he actually took me to some as I was curious about it all and really did care for him so I thought maybe if I am open, it would be good for our relationship. I really thought he was not serious at first but he was. He saw it as an initiation of some sorts and in the end I could tell that he wanted us to be involved in that type of alternative lifestyle in the forseable future.

b) Turns out during the 2years we were dating, he would drop me off at the airport and then head to sex parties afterwards. (Only reason I found out was because i found a receipt of his entrance payment in December before we married). Questioned him about it and he denied it at first but then came clean and said he was looking for a place for us to go to (trying them out first in a sense).

c) Before we married again, a delivery came through, and I was home alone that day. I opened it and it was some lube. I obviously thought it was for us, so i sealed it back up and retreated back and went back to my office to work. When he came home I could hear him shuffling around in and out of the house so i came out of the office, he was in the kitchen reading mail. Immediately i felt like a whole rock had dropped in my stomach and I asked him what happened to the package that was delivered. He looked shook. He did not realise I had already opened it and knew what was in it so he tried to hide saying it was work stuff. I forced him to show me where he put it, and eventually (after an hour of back and forth yelling) he led me outside to his truck and under the back seat where there is a storage compartment was where he had put/ hid them. So obviously I asked why he hid them, as my head was spinning at this point. Took him another two hours and me breaking shit in the house for him to finally take me to his empty rented property, where he showed me his stash of dildos (all shapes and sizes) 3 bags full, about 200 of them. 🥺. When we got to the house i had to fight to get into the property with him and it took us roughly another 2 hours before he finally let me in on his hiding spot.

To say I was shocked was an understatement because he had never mentioned any of this. He came clean that he loved a prostate massage, I am no prude so again, I remained open minded and tried to understand him and make sense of it all. Mind all this is happening about a week to our wedding. I was so confused because the man I thought I loved wasn’t the person I thought he was.

Up until I said I do, I was riddled with anxiousness and doubt and really was in autopilot. I can genuinely say that I did not at all enjoy my wedding. My cousin and brother that I had confided in had shut me out and wanted nothing to do with him, or even hear his name.

d) Now something else has come up, his addiction to porn, specifically gay porn. He watches it everyday and its in copious amounts, I know for a fact he is addicted to it and that he possibly is gay or bi, even though he continuously declines this. I’ve seen all his searches, including searches of trannies (apologies for the offensive word use) near me (i.e his location) or just about any fetish he has on the phone near him. Asked him about that he said he was just looking and hasn’t met anyone yet.

This is someone I really do love this, or at least the version of him that I thought he was. We had a whole future planned out, or rather I believed in everything he said. But the more I stay with him, the more everything affects me. I am hesitant to leave for various obvious reasons, age, loneliness, I literally relocated for this person, and feel like my world has been crushed by the person I loved the most….

Just asking for a hand hold as I get through this mess… I can’t trust anyone again in real life after being flamed by my cousin and brother. But i just feel so alone.

Thanks for reading all that.

If this is true then it’s a cautionary tale!!!!

Pursuitofhappines · 16/05/2023 18:28

@SunflowerTed i know it does sound unreal, basically as I mentioned earlier I took a gamble, put all my eggs in this basket and its all just ended as so.

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Pursuitofhappines · 16/05/2023 18:56

When I asked him about the gay porn, he said to me there are half naked to almost nude women everywhere on instagram etc, that any heterosexual sex isn’t enticing to him anymore… so he opts for the other, anything other than women… sent my head on a spin since i can see the unhealthy amount of gay porn he watches daily based on his history…

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Sarahbumdaa · 16/05/2023 20:03

Please leave dont listen to anymore of his bullshit. Its not worth it

Pursuitofhappines · 16/05/2023 20:17

My pup has seen so many tears, he’s never left my side and it’s helped, so thankful for him…. Him and the margaritas..

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Modda · 16/05/2023 21:21

Fuck that.

Come home.

happyheart7 · 16/05/2023 22:48

He’s been cheating on you, in a private rental, with 200 dildos, where he’s probably invited lots of random people. Have you been checked out for stds? Sounds to me like the private rental could have been his move to set up his own sex party scene. Dildo obsession much? The problem with porn is that people who obsessively and secretly watch it, often need a greater and greater rush, and it sounds like he’s a real sex addict and has gone very deep into this. Nothing wrong with a bit of kink, but this is a whole lifestyle, and you didn’t agree to a polyamorous kink lifestyle did you? You’ve somehow autopiloted yourself into this whole situation because of the redeeming features he has, and the image he built up of himself long distance. But this is who he was all along. Not just a sex addict, but also a liar, and a cheat. In you he sees someone he can possibly manipulate into living whatever lifestyle he decides you’re going to have. You don’t want that lifestyle, that’s obvious. What happens when he says he wants to see you having sex with other men? He’s trying to initiate you into a whole lifestyle here. He’s not the man you thought he was. Get your stuff together and leave. Take time to think through the kind of future that you want. You can find happiness away from this NOW, before you lose yourself completely. “He hasn’t met anyone yet”, wow. Not only has he decided you’re now polygamous and he’s looking, but he’s also a liar who has been meeting people for years, before and during your relationship. See it fully for all that it is, and set yourself free!

happyheart7 · 16/05/2023 22:50

I would stake my entire life savings and state that’s it’s doubtful you even know 10% of what he’s been up to, and planning.

Pursuitofhappines · 17/05/2023 00:20

@happyheart7 you are spot on. I have been naive with my outlook and overlooked the massive redflags he was so clearly waving. It all makes sense now when he would disappear for days during our long distance relationship and come back with flimsy excuses. I just never imagined the extent of things.

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Pursuitofhappines · 17/05/2023 00:21

Yes 💯 I know there is more that I am actually scared now of uncovering, but I don’t need to anyway, what I know is enough to walk away

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bernadette1984 · 14/05/2024 11:50

What happened? You move on? Hope u doing ok?

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