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Apologising for past mistakes to your adult kids

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lovenotwar149 · 15/05/2023 07:12

I have gone NC with my father for several months now due to his abusive behaviour. This NC has now extended to my mother too for the same reason. Since separating myself for their toxicity , which I was a part of and sadly copied some behaviours which I exhibited to my own children, I am now having a lot of flashbacks. A therapist said it is CPTSD (complex post traumatic stress disorder). These flashbacks include various traumatic events that happened in my childhood and also some events where I mistreated my own children. My 3 children are between the ages of 23 and 29 now. I have found myself breaking down and sobbing when these flashbacks occur. I do this alone and I can handle it as I know I dont behave like this anymore and haven't done for many yrs now. My question is....is it appropriate to apologise to my adult children for past misdemeanours that they are not even talking about? I am apologising for these things but they are not coming to me with any complaints at all. My husband thinks it could be harmful to bring up things that they are not even thinking about that "I" have a need to apologise for. He says they are in the past, leave them there. I am so conscious of taking accountability for my mistakes as my parents to this day dont take accountability for their actions.
So do ppl think it is appropriate to apologise to my adult sons for past mistakes. FYI I have a very good relationship with my adult sons. Thank you people for reading this.

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lovenotwar149 · 16/05/2023 06:45

Thank you for your thoughts!

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WitchWand · 16/05/2023 07:30

I think it's very important to apologise to our children for something we have done wrong as a parent, be they adults or not.

As adult children, if some behaviour was passed onto them was wrong behaviour, I believe they need to hear that. And I think it's right to name the specific behaviour too. That way they don't need to spend ages ( years even ...) working out the specifics for themselves. I think it is the best way of stopping passing onto future generations inacceptable inherited behaviour from previous generations.

I wouldn't spend a long time going over and over again the wrong doings, so as not to inverse the roles and unconsciously step out the adult role. But, I would be very clear.

I would even be clear to the point of correcting adult children who say "it's ok, it doesn't matter," or something similar.

I would say "No, it's not ok now . And, it wasn't ok then. I'm sorry. If it was ok, then that means you can do it too. And you can't. I can't change the past. But I am working on how to change now. And, together, I'd like us to change the future."

I think you're very brave op, to say that the buck stops with you. Take care of yourself too. You sound like a lovely person.

Eyesopenwideawake · 16/05/2023 07:31

Apologise? Probably not. But explain - absolutely. You could start the conversation over the Philip Larkin poem

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/48419/this-be-the-verse

to explain the concept of generational abuse and how you managed to break it with them - something to be hugely proud of. Even if they don't actively remember the bad times there might be bits squirrelled away in their subconscious minds which may cause them problems as and when they become parents. Far better for them to understand the massive pressure you were under and for them to realise it was nothing to do with them.

This Be The Verse by Philip Larkin | Poetry Foundation

They fuck you up, your mum and dad.

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/48419/this-be-the-verse

hppo · 16/05/2023 08:44

BeachBlondey · 15/05/2023 14:12

I think context is everything here. What did you do, that you want to apologise for? If it was beating them black and blue, then yes, of course you need to apologise. If it was getting tipsy at a neighbours BBQ in 1998, and them being a tad embarrassed, then no, there's no need to be bringing this up now.

I agree with this. You actually come across as a caring compassionate mum based on your posts.

If you actually physically or emotionally abused them it's own thing. If you lost your temper and shouted for a few minutes after asking them 16 times to brush their teeth and they were ignoring you, that's pretty normal ime

HarimadSol · 16/05/2023 09:25

Actions speak louder than words. I can count on one hand the times my controlling, manipulative, abusive mother has apologised to me, but she meant none of them. Her behaviour has never changed. On the other hand, my weak, enabling, also abusive father apologised over and over again for being 'a bad father', but he was never specific and his behaviour didn’t change either. His apologies lost all meaning very quickly.

You've done so well to build a good relationship with your sons. That's more important than apologies. Focus on that. If they bring anything up, then you can apologise wholeheartedly.

lovenotwar149 · 16/05/2023 10:36

Thank you for further replies.It really is so helpful and useful to share thoughts. I have taken a lot from these comments. Have a lovely day people 😀

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billy1966 · 16/05/2023 10:46

LiliLil · 15/05/2023 07:38

I agree with this

I agree with this.

No need for specifics, but apologising for any failures is powerful.

Most parents try and do their best.
I know I have.
But I have made mistakes, I am human.

Telling your children how much you love them and how despite any mistakes you made a long the way, you really tried your best can only be a good thing.

I think as we age, people judge their childhood on the whole.

Parents are human and can make mistakes.

There is a huge difference between human mistakes and being the victim of nasty abusive parents that have left you confused and broken.

Be kind to yourself and consider some counselling to help you process these emotions.

Quitelikeit · 16/05/2023 10:53

To answer this properly can you give an example of your behaviour?

Was it favouritism? Was it violence? I mean the fact you are here and are seeking therapy suggests it was something quite harmful

Unlike other posters I highly doubt that your children have forgotten these things and I respect you for getting help and trying to make amends

However not addressing it is very easy

I mean their ages when it all happened would let you know if they remembered it?!

Maybe one child was more of a target than the others? Maybe it is going to help that child forgive you

Just because your children have remained in your life it definately doesn’t mean they have forgotten about it or that they have come out unscathed by the way they were raised

lovenotwar149 · 21/05/2023 10:28

Here is an example ......
I wasn't brave enough to write it before but I am now. I sent this email to my eldest son some months ago.

My dear .....(my eldest son's name)

I dont doubt you too had a good time with ....(brother's name) .

Remember I told you I have had/am having many flashbacks atm. Many. Well one of them I had had many times is this one…...

So (his brother name) dyed his hair yellow/blonde as you saw.

When he first did it, what I said I liked was the fact that he tried a new colour etc..I liked the courage/creativity etc and I let him know so. I recall a long time ago when you dyed your hair , red/orange if I remember correctly. I dont recalll my initial reaction but I do recall you shaving it into a red/orange mohican style thereafter. I recalll really losing it and screaming, unkind words no doubt, and I know you shaved it all off after,

Oh (elder son's name), please may I also tell you how I liked your courage/creativity too…albeit some yrs later. And I am VERY SORRY that I wasn’t able to SEE IT then but I am so blessed and grateful to be able to SEE IT now.

Love you xx

It was received well by him. 😀

At the time the thought of my parents (who at the time had such a strong hold on me, which I allowed at the time. I was so under their spell) seeing this hairstyle and the comments I would receive from them was too much to bear. I dont even know if I even considered whether I liked his new hairstyle. It was my parents shaming voices in my head that came into play.

Another example ....
I am babysitting a neighbours son atm, he's 2 and a half years old. I collect him from nursery sometimes. I take a banana and raisins for him as a snack and he now asks for these 2 items as soon as he is in his pushchair.
I recall how I used to take a drink for my middle son when I collected him from his nursery etc. On one occasion I forgot it and my middle son kicked off or rather showed his anger. I find this flashback very interesting (and upsetting) when I look back now. I as the parent was hell bent on being the 'perfect' mother. The fact that I forgot his juice bottle was a simple mistake but I felt like a 'bad' mother at the time. (this is about 24 yrs ago now btw) . My son's reaction was OTT for sure but so was mine for forgetting something I SHOULD have remembered. I didn't accept his upset/anger, I shamed it as I felt humiliated at him showing me up etc. This is what I am talking about and what I want to apologise for. I am not doing this anymore which is the miracle in the story. I didn't SEE and HEAR my children.I couldn't as I was not being SEEN AND HEARD either. I am still not being seen and heard by my parents. But that's ok because I realise this now and the fact that they cannot see and hear me is because its too painful for them. I have taken appropriate steps to manage this i.e. NC effectively. Putting boundaries in place with my own family most definitely since 2012 where my father stepped over the line BIGTIME and now stepping away just about completely has been a game changer, a game changer for me and I see the dysfunctional pattern, generational dysfunctional pattern in fact, that was (is still) in play. I won't be a part of it anymore and that's a miracle for me. A miracle.

So when my middle son comes to stay this Friday I want to relay that kicking off story to him and apologise for not 'allowing' his anger. I was ashamed ultimately and saw his kicking off as a reflection on me and I put that on him as my parents have put their shame onto me and still do sadly.

I am most definitely now focussing on the very joyful and positive relationship I have with my 3 adult sons and it is so reciprocal too which is wonderful.

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billy1966 · 21/05/2023 16:34

OP,

I think you have been extraordinarily hard on yourself for a long time.

By all means apologise to your children if it helps you, but you sound as if you have tried to do your best.

We are all only human.

Glad to read you intend to enjoy your boys going forward.

Good luck.

lovenotwar149 · 22/05/2023 07:15

😊thank you

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Blip · 22/05/2023 08:54

I think it's important to acknowledge the mistakes we have made as parents and to apologise for them and acknowledge their effects.

Blip · 22/05/2023 09:00

That was a lovely email and I'm not surprised that your son was pleased to receive it.

lovenotwar149 · 22/05/2023 13:30

I agree Blip, I agree.
Thank you re email to my son too 😊

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