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Lovely Widower

37 replies

Shortperson · 09/05/2023 18:17

Hi…

Just want someone to talk to!

I met a really sweet man in February through a mutual hobby, we’ve met for walks, coffee and some lovely meals out. He’s thoughtful, kind and generous.

His wife died at Xmas after a 2 year illness and he cared for her to the end,. He has two adult children whom he adores and sees as often as he can.

Ive fallen in love (I’m divorced for years with 3 grown up children) with him and I thought he felt the same. He says he loves my company and has invited me on holiday for 5 days later this year. He can’t bring himself to say he cares as he gets emotional. I asked him if he liked me and he said,’more than that’,

He’s arranged for a couple dates soon for places I’ve wanted to go..it’s been so great. He’s come to my home several times and stayed and I’ve been to his place for dinner. He gets nervous around me as he says he never expected to find someone so soon. He is very affectionate but cries sometimes.

I give him a lot of space as I know he’s still grieving, I don’t pressure him, I stay positive and just enjoy what we have.

He is going on a sort pilgrimage for several months to raise funds his wife’s illness which I knew about and I support him.

The only concern I have is that I’ve never met his children - he says that they are too fragile, I’ve never met his family, friends or acquaintances. He goes all family gatherings on his own. Weekends are often reserved for family and his children.

its very early days but I can’t help feeling that he’s not serious about me I’ve thought of asking him where our relationship is going. I don’t want to hurt him when he is so vulnerable.

Most self help groups advise me to ask how he feels so I have certainty, others say wait for a year and see how it goes.

He wear his wedding ring which he says he will wear for a year and a day.

We are both in our sixties.

I just wish I knew where I stand.

OP posts:
Outdamnspot23 · 11/05/2023 16:06

I think the fact that he spends most of his free time being with his family, them supporting each other, is really nice. He's clearly someone who is loving and builds strong, lasting relationships.

I just think that the time since Christmas will be seeming so much shorter to him than you. I've only just thrown out some leftover Christmas food that I found in the cupboard, it's not very long ago at all. You had a free heart so were able to plunge in emotionally, he's probably trying to walk a fine line between wanting to have a future relationship with you but currently being an absolute mess.

SheilaFentiman · 11/05/2023 16:41

Outdamnspot23 · 11/05/2023 16:06

I think the fact that he spends most of his free time being with his family, them supporting each other, is really nice. He's clearly someone who is loving and builds strong, lasting relationships.

I just think that the time since Christmas will be seeming so much shorter to him than you. I've only just thrown out some leftover Christmas food that I found in the cupboard, it's not very long ago at all. You had a free heart so were able to plunge in emotionally, he's probably trying to walk a fine line between wanting to have a future relationship with you but currently being an absolute mess.

Great post

mrsharrisgoestoparis · 11/05/2023 17:14

Would you want your father to introduce you to your mothers new replacement just months after her death??? Take it easy you will scare him away

tattygrl · 11/05/2023 18:21

Let this relationship flow at its own pace. It will be different, because he is a new widower. As others have said, Christmas is such a very short time ago to have had such a huge loss.

You both sound lovely. He sounds very thoughtful, conscientious and emotionally intelligent. These are qualities which might make the start of the relationship slower, because he's responding to the loss of his wife, but which will be wonderful qualities in him as a partner, if you can go at his pace for now.

I think that being romantically involved with him right now will mean being able to follow his lead, and be ok with simply seeing what happens, for a good few months at least. Let it be what it is, and try not to apply usual relationship paving and expectations to it too much. Of course, if you end up not feeling happy and fulfilled yourself, that's important too!! But I think to give this the best chance, go with the flow for now. Daffodil

AssertiveGertrude · 11/05/2023 18:25

you sound lovely op

just take this time for what it is - no expectations so you don’t get hurt but at the back of my mind is it’s really only been weeks since Christmas - way too soon for him to heal and start again

I think I would stay as friends if it were me 💐

PrestonHood121 · 11/05/2023 19:17

He might be lovely but he has baggage, and a family who will not be ready to accept you yet. Accept it for what it is or move on. I've heard it can take 2 years for every decade a person was married to move on after bereavement. YOu have to give people time to move on and it can be months before they even get the headspace to know how to do that.

bunsnroses1 · 11/05/2023 19:28

This cannot be real- his wife died just over 4 months ago! How on earth can you expect him to be ready for a 'serious' relationship, to be introduced to his children, friends and family? They're grieving, surely you can imagine how you'd be received?
I'm sure you're a very comforting port in a storm for him and maybe if you hang in there for a few years it will develop into something, but I'd have too much respect for myself, for his wife and his children to pursue this relationship at the moment.

ItsNotWhatItsNot · 11/05/2023 19:35

This is shocking, the instant you found out his wife had just died it should have been an immediate ‘sorry for your loss’ and go about your day. His bereaved kids should obviously not be any part of your few weeks of dating. Leave the poor man alone to grieve his very, very recent loss.

Cabella · 11/05/2023 21:56

I would not want to meet a new partner's family either, and if I meet someone, he would not meet mine, I would keep my relationship separate. Reason is my relationship hit the rocks 3 years ago, former partner did not want my grandchildren in our shared home during lockdown, when schools and nurseries were closed, and his sons did not like seeing pictures of my grandchildren in what they perceived to be "their dad's" house.

billy1966 · 11/05/2023 22:21

For a lot of adult children, having their mother replaced only months after she died would implode a lot of father/child relationships.

I would be appalled at the lack of empathy for the children involved.

This is their irreplaceable mother.

Protect your heart, I wouldn't expect this to last as he's grieving so much.

ItsNotWhatItsNot · 12/05/2023 01:19

Really. ‘Hi, I’m in my 60s and my wife just died 4 weeks ago.’ does not = ready for dating and making his bereaved kids meet his new sex partner. Whose terrible, terrible idea was this? The mind boggles.

Monty27 · 12/05/2023 01:53

OP only fools rush in. Aren't you pushing his boundaries? The poor guy needs to learn how to grieve. I don't think you'll help tbh.

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