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Does Couples Counselling Actually Work?

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Questions99 · 26/04/2023 09:03

We have been married 2 decades, 2 DCs (both at secondary school), we are incompatible in nearly every way (interests, perspective of life, energy, personality) and for the past few years have been to the brink of separation a couple of times. He has dealt with addictions and had 18m of CBT counselling to overcome. He’s now very stable but I find myself pessimistic about our future. I wish I wasn’t. Still attracted to him and I want kids to have us both together until they leave home if not beyond. But we are in separate rooms since he came back after a separation (his decision). He was awful to me and it was a relief when we split. However, he is no longer awful. He fought hard to come home. He completely ‘woo’d’ me and I agreed to try again. He became the guy I dated when we were apart; flowers, attentive, affectionate… within weeks of being back home all that vanished. I felt and still feel completely manipulated but I don’t even think he’s aware he did it. This was over a year ago.
We still sleep together occasionally but he makes excuses to literally sleep in the back room on an old single bed whilst I’m in the master (says because our mattress isn’t comfortable, we both snore..) and makes no attempt to improve things. He says he’s “content” when I ask how he feels about our marriage. He does probably 40/60 of the household chores and pays 50% of our bills. This was hard won during the separation. I used to pay all the bills and do 80% of the chores. I’d say I still do 80% of the parenting but I think that’s often the case with Mums. He is agreeable for couples counselling but has said maybe I need counselling first to “get up to speed”.. that really irks me. I’m pretty self-aware and have had counselling over the years. It’s as if he feels he is ‘fixed’ and I’m the problem. He regularly tells me I’m co-dependent. What I call craving closeness, intimacy and wanting fun and some affection now and then - he calls being codependent. He is fiercely independent and getting more so as he ages. He is either glued to the tv, his phone or out. When we do spend time alone together on a date I feel awkward and uncomfortable and can’t relax. All I want is to go back to being comfortable around him, to enjoy mutual interests together and sleep together. Is that too much to ask? I have stood by him through horrific times and awful behaviour. I asked him if he wants our marriage to be better and he just says he’s happy as it is and it’s up to me to initiate sex, activities, holidays, time together. He initiates nothing. So it feels all very one-sided. Like he just literally doesn’t care anymore. Yet he’s here, and would be horrified if I suggested separating (possibly due to financial discomfort and splitting out home and kids - I don’t think he would miss me at all).
I have procrastinated over arranging couples therapy because I’m scared it won’t work and this will be over. As long as I delay it, then there’s hope we will somehow be magically be closer and I’ll be happier (in my head).
I want to be married to him. We fought hard to get back together and I definitely want our family to stay together.. but I just feel so alone and unhappy. I don’t want anyone else, but I do want to be able to be myself.
Can therapy help us reconnect?

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midgemadgemodge · 26/04/2023 09:06

It showed me how o needed to get out - how bad he really was

Sorry not what you wanted to hear - but it did help - I think I was like you wanting it to work

Bapbap · 26/04/2023 09:08

I think couples counselling would be very helpful but perhaps not for the reasons you want.

Teapotmonkey · 26/04/2023 11:12

You can't have a relationship with someone who isn't committed to it. Listen to what he's telling you; watch what he's showing you. There's a great book "Why does he do that" by Lundy Bancroft - it's worth a read. Please do get some relationship counselling but I suspect they'd want to speak to you separately. You can't change him 💐

AreWeThereYet69 · 26/04/2023 12:29

It didn't work for me but I'm still glad we tried. At least I know I put effort in to making things work and I don't feel as guilty regarding my kids having to deal with separated parents.
That said, in hindsight, our therapist wasn't very good. Find someone you like and trust

FotheringtonThomasMinor · 26/04/2023 13:11

Counselling can help but it won't turn two people who are incompatible into two people who are compatible.

It sounds as if he likes the convenience of married life (it's cheaper, you have a home set up) but that he's checked out emotionally and physically. It is not co-dependent to want a partner who is affectionate and kind to you, who you have sex with, who is interested in spending time with you. It sounds as if he thinks that, with enough counselling, you might check out like he has and be happy with what's basically a house share.

Individual counselling might be useful for you but not because it will "fix" you into being like him, quite the reverse- it will help you see that you don't have to put up with an unhappy marriage.

Isheabastard · 26/04/2023 13:33

I think Fotherington has covered it well. I would suggest private therapy first, but not necessarily CBT. I found a chartered clinical psychologist who was helpful for me.

It will help you define your goals and if you then do couple’s counselling, you will know what’s achievable.

MissyB1 · 26/04/2023 13:43

My question is why would you want to save this relationship? For the kids? Hmmmm…. rarely works, because you you need to be doing it for yourselves not the kids. You want to change him back to how he used to be? Nope he would have to want to change, he’s clearly telling you he’s happy with how it is.

Honestly, what’s the point? I suspect this relationship is done.

Heroicallyfound · 26/04/2023 13:48

There’s a series of two called Couples Therapy on iplayer - really good insight into how it can play out either resulting in the relationship strengthening or couples parting ways.

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