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In a new relationship and experiencing a rollercoaster of emotions

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jrunner · 24/04/2023 21:33

Hello, everyone,

I am new here and am in need of some advice. I am a 41-year-old female and am a recent widow, having lost my husband of 22 years 10 months ago. I had been with him since I was only 18 years old and his passing was very sudden and unexpected. I am not going to lie or sugar coat - the last several years of our marriage were highly toxic and unhealthy. In reality, I should have been a divorcee long before I became a widow, but that's water under the bridge at this point. I still loved him and I went through an intense period of grief after his passing.

Almost two months ago, I met a guy on a dating website who lives about 30 minutes away from me. He is divorced and is originally from the same state that my late husband is from (Boston, MA area). He moved to my area about 7-8 years ago after his divorce. He is 16 years older than me (the age gap does not bother either one of us at all). We texted and talked on the phone for about a week before we met in person. Our first date was on a Sunday in early March and it was AMAZING. I will admit, I was extremely nervous to go on my very first date in nearly 23 years, but I quickly started to feel very much at ease with this guy. We have a lot in common and had so much to talk about. He worked in law enforcement for nearly 30 years and I was a paramedic for many years, so we have the public safety background in common, among many other things. The conversation just flowed so naturally and it came to a point where we were laughing so hard that we were both in tears and our stomachs hurt. Before we knew it, 8-9 hours had flown by. Neither one of us could believe that our first date lasted from the late morning until early evening! We were having such a great time that we didn't even notice what time it was! I won't go into all of the details, but I'll just say that it was the most imperfectly perfect first date that anyone could ever ask for! It was SO memorable and we still talk about it to this day! So many hilarious things happened out of the blue, which neither of us ever expected! Our entire date was ALL intense laughter, followed by a very nice kiss at the end when he brought me home! He was so sweet and so respectful, repeatedly reassuring me that he wanted to make sure I was comfortable on our date. We are both very physically and intellectually attracted to each other.

Since that first date nearly 2 months ago, we have spent every single weekend together, and we very occasionally meet at the gym for an early morning workout together once in a while (we are both gym rats and go to different gyms, but I sometimes meet him at his gym). For the past 6 weekends, we have gone out of town to a variety of places, staying in nice hotels for 2 nights and having a great time. We just returned home today from yet another weekend away. We've done a lot of sightseeing, dining out, going to bars for drinks, and going for hikes and beach walks. We've spent two weekends in his hometown just north of Boston and he has shown me around, which I immensely enjoyed. We have been intimate several times and it has been nothing short of amazing each time. I've never had such a strong sexual desire for someone in my life! There is so much attraction between us and we feel a deep connection with each other. We very frequently have the same thoughts and sometimes even read each other's minds. Our conversations are the best. Some are more serious and others have us both in absolute stitches. We have no problem acting like idiots and laughing at the stupidest things together! I've never felt this way in my life. It's almost intoxicating. Ever since I met him, I CANNOT stop thinking about him, and he told me 2-3 weekends ago that he constantly thinks about me as well. During the week when we're apart, we text and talk on the phone and he sends me very sweet memes that express his feelings towards me. He has frequently said that he can't believe what a connection we have and how we have established such a great comfort level with each other so quickly. He's told me more than once that I've "sparked his soul." It feels like we've known each other for years! We just genuinely enjoy each other's company and I always get the excited butterflies in my stomach when I know I'm about to see him. I almost feel like a teenager!

Sadly, his elderly mother is dying of advanced stage lung cancer. She is currently in a nursing home in Massachusetts and he and his siblings are getting ready to put her into hospice care as she is rapidly declining and doesn't have much longer to live. On top of that, his nearly 19-year-old dog (a springer spaniel who he's had since he was just a pup) is also slowly dying of cancer. We went to his hometown two weekends ago as well as this past weekend (almost 3 hours from where we live) so that he could spend some time with his mother. I either stay at the hotel and hit the gym or go to Starbucks while he visits her. These past two weekends, he has been a bit distant for obvious reasons. There wasn't really any sexual intimacy the last two weekends because he's obviously preoccupied with his mother and his dog and admitted that he was emotionally exhausted. He said more than once that he realized he probably wasn't the best company. I immediately reassured him not to even worry about it, that I am here for him and that not every weekend we spend together has to be all fun and games. I told him that I know he is dealing with a lot in his life at the moment and that I am here for him and that I will always be here for him. I also told him that just his company is more than enough for me. He thanked me and said how much he appreciated it.

Upon returning home from our trip this morning, I texted him to let him know that I had arrived home safely and reassured him that I will be here for him 24/7 and acknowledged how difficult what he is going through must be. I told him that I would be praying for his mother and that she has a peaceful transition from this world when her time comes. A few hours ago, he texted me a link to a meme that said, "I will always try to make you happy, even if I'm not. I won't ever let you go through anything alone because I know how it feels to struggle all by yourself. I will never judge you and I will always make sure you're okay. Even if we fight or I'm mad at you, if you need help, I will always be there for you. I promised you forever and I meant it."

I don't know what came over me, but I became EXTREMELY emotional when I read this. I literally broke down in tears. It was the last text he sent me today and I probably won't hear from him again until tomorrow morning. It just touched me so much, especially knowing what he's going through as far as preparing to lose his mom and his dog of nearly 19 years. He's not the type of guy who expresses his emotions very well verbally in person; however, he can be very physically affectionate, but he seems to feel more comfortable expressing his feelings via text, especially right after we've spent a weekend together. He has that rough, tough exterior (he's an city ex-cop, federal investigator, played football in college, very much a macho type of guy), but he has very clearly conveyed his feelings for me over text many times over these last couple of months. I know that we've only been dating for almost 2 months, but I have fallen hard for him. I'm trying not to use the big "L" word this early on, but I can't help how I feel. He means so much to me and I never want to lose him. The toxicity and emotional abuse that I went through in my marriage with my late husband has caused me to have many insecurities and anxieties. He knows what I went through and has been a great listener and has been very supportive and encouraging. Of course, I haven't told him how insecure and anxious I feel and that I'm afraid of losing him and that I always question how he feels about me, if he's going to lose interest, not want to see me anymore, etc. He has never given me any reason to feel this way. It's just my own anxious insecurity that causes me to catastrophize in my own head. I feel that would just be too much to unload on him after only a couple of months of dating. What's incredibly stupid is that his being a bit distant these last two weekends together because of his mother and dog is causing me to feel like he's losing interest, when I darn well know why he's being distant. We weren't sexually intimate these last two weekends as a result, which also bothers me and makes me feel a bit insecure when it shouldn't. For goodness sake, his mother and dog are both dying! I shouldn't take his somewhat distant behavior personally as I know darn well that it has nothing to do with me and everything to do with preparing for two major losses in his life on top of the stress he has from running his own business! He has even outright acknowledged this to me on more than one occasion by admitting that he probably isn't the best company right now! I also got ridiculously anxious last week when he didn't text as much as he typically does (despite him actually taking the time to call me every single morning last week), which is also incredibly ridiculous. I KNEW he was preoccupied with other things and I know that I ALWAYS hear from him, whether it's via text or call, and he has NEVER broken plans with me to date. He did tell me today before we headed home that his mother and dog are his two top priorities right now, which I told him is COMPLETELY understandable and that he has my full support.

Does anyone have any advice as to how I might handle my insecurities and relationship anxiety? I really, really like this guy and am very interested in pursuing a long-term relationship with him and I really want to see where this goes. So far, everything has been amazing. We haven't had a bad time together yet, which is something he has even said. We get along so incredibly well and we definitely have a great deal of connection and chemistry. I've never enjoyed somebody's company so much in my entire life. I always have the best time with him and I simply cannot stop thinking about him. How can I be there for him during this incredibly difficult time in his life without being overbearing? I'm sure that he needs some space to deal with the great deal of sad events taking place in his personal life. I don't want to over text him or come across as too needy/clingy. As much as I'd love to spend every single weekend with him, I know that he is going to have a lot to deal with very soon and may also need a bit of space after his mother (and even dog) passes away. Right now, he is completely consumed by these things, which is to be expected. He's even been sick this past week from being some emotionally run down.

Sorry that this post turned into a bit of a novel! Any input/advice would be greatly appreciated! I don't want to ruin what we have with my stupid insecurities/anxiety that stem from my past, or by coming across as too needy!

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Aquamarine1029 · 24/04/2023 21:44

First of all, I'm very happy for you that you've found someone who has sparked such joy in your life. That's truly such a wonderful thing.

Secondly... Slow the fuck down!! Honestly, you have got to take a step back, meditate, do yoga, whatever it takes to put the brakes on a bit. You've been going at full throttle with this man and it puts you at risk of missing some very important red flags. Personally, I think you are very, very vulnerable right now to being love bombed. You've got love goggles on that are 100 miles thick.

He's going through a very difficult time and you've just met him. You barely know him. You only know the person he's allowed you to see. It's way too soon to get overly invested in him and planning a future. Your husband just died less than a year ago, and that has long lasting effects. Right now it should be one day at a time. You have got to find a way to dial it back.

HappyTrance · 24/04/2023 21:46

I don’t think you should be going away on weekends with him when he is visiting his dying mother. I think you need to back off a bit and give him some space. I don’t think he should be involving you so much either.

Toiletfriend · 24/04/2023 21:50

Space. You both need emotional and physical space.

Summer2424 · 24/04/2023 22:21

Hi @jrunner you're falling for him and everything you feel for him i'm sure he feels for you.
Just be there for him at this difficult time. You both have so many wonderful stages to look forward to in your relationship, enjoy every moment ❤ x

jrunner · 24/04/2023 22:27

HappyTrance · 24/04/2023 21:46

I don’t think you should be going away on weekends with him when he is visiting his dying mother. I think you need to back off a bit and give him some space. I don’t think he should be involving you so much either.

He's not involving me in regard to his mother. I've never even met her. I don't go to the nursing home with him when he visits her. He will go and spend a couple of hours with her while I occupy myself either at the hotel gym or pool or by going to get coffee at Starbucks, where I'll bring my laptop and get some of my own work done. After he has visited his mother, we go out and have a nice time together.

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jrunner · 24/04/2023 22:28

Summer2424 · 24/04/2023 22:21

Hi @jrunner you're falling for him and everything you feel for him i'm sure he feels for you.
Just be there for him at this difficult time. You both have so many wonderful stages to look forward to in your relationship, enjoy every moment ❤ x

Thank you! I certainly hope that he feels similarly towards me as I do towards him and I look forward to what the future has in store! I just have these insecurities creeping up on me!

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PermanentTemporary · 24/04/2023 22:29

I'm very happy to hear about your situation... but I'm afraid I'm also going to say you do need to build a floor under your feet.

I met someone almost exactly a year after my dh's death. It was an extremely intense experience though in my case I knew it was going to be casual. We saw each other over the course of almost a year, and years later I still think of him every day. Meeting him in that extraordinary open raw time made it a very precious but also very risky experience.

Can I very very strongly advise that if you have access to bereavement therapy, that you go and start it now? At least weekly if you can. You desperately need an anchor, not to weigh you down but to keep you in contact with the earth.

Dithyramb · 24/04/2023 22:34

jrunner · 24/04/2023 22:27

He's not involving me in regard to his mother. I've never even met her. I don't go to the nursing home with him when he visits her. He will go and spend a couple of hours with her while I occupy myself either at the hotel gym or pool or by going to get coffee at Starbucks, where I'll bring my laptop and get some of my own work done. After he has visited his mother, we go out and have a nice time together.

In his shoes, I would find your presence an extra pressure in an already difficult, emotionally-difficult situation. I agree with pps. Slow down. A lot. You are incredibly vulnerable, and some space would benefit you both.

jrunner · 24/04/2023 22:37

Aquamarine1029 · 24/04/2023 21:44

First of all, I'm very happy for you that you've found someone who has sparked such joy in your life. That's truly such a wonderful thing.

Secondly... Slow the fuck down!! Honestly, you have got to take a step back, meditate, do yoga, whatever it takes to put the brakes on a bit. You've been going at full throttle with this man and it puts you at risk of missing some very important red flags. Personally, I think you are very, very vulnerable right now to being love bombed. You've got love goggles on that are 100 miles thick.

He's going through a very difficult time and you've just met him. You barely know him. You only know the person he's allowed you to see. It's way too soon to get overly invested in him and planning a future. Your husband just died less than a year ago, and that has long lasting effects. Right now it should be one day at a time. You have got to find a way to dial it back.

Yes, I do realize that it's still very early days and that a full-blown relationship doesn't blossom in only 2 short months. I'm absolutely not planning a future with anyone at this point. I simply want to continue seeing him and see where this goes. I just cannot help the feelings that I've developed for him in these last couple of months. I NEVER in a million years expected this to happen. In fact, I was very hesitant to even attempt dating. I know that we need to take things slow. He went through a nasty divorce and I'm a widow who was in a very toxic/emotionally abusive marriage. It's not like we're already talking about moving in together, getting married, etc. We just feel such a strong connection and chemistry with each other and genuinely enjoy our time together.

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jrunner · 24/04/2023 22:38

Dithyramb · 24/04/2023 22:34

In his shoes, I would find your presence an extra pressure in an already difficult, emotionally-difficult situation. I agree with pps. Slow down. A lot. You are incredibly vulnerable, and some space would benefit you both.

I understand that; however, he is the one who invited me to go with him.....

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Youngatheart00 · 24/04/2023 22:43

Take it steady. If you feel like you need to send him a huge emotional essay, take it from me and write it in your notes and go for a walk, run, yoga, shopping, cinema, anything!! It sounds as if the relationship could be something very special but you don’t want to burn so bright so soon you burn yourselves out when navigating stressful situations which are quite literally life or death.

Give him some space but make sure you let him know you’re there for him

Dithyramb · 24/04/2023 22:58

jrunner · 24/04/2023 22:37

Yes, I do realize that it's still very early days and that a full-blown relationship doesn't blossom in only 2 short months. I'm absolutely not planning a future with anyone at this point. I simply want to continue seeing him and see where this goes. I just cannot help the feelings that I've developed for him in these last couple of months. I NEVER in a million years expected this to happen. In fact, I was very hesitant to even attempt dating. I know that we need to take things slow. He went through a nasty divorce and I'm a widow who was in a very toxic/emotionally abusive marriage. It's not like we're already talking about moving in together, getting married, etc. We just feel such a strong connection and chemistry with each other and genuinely enjoy our time together.

I don’t think anyone thinks you are getting married, but that you are putting yourself at considerable emotional risk. You’re bereaved and recently out of a toxic relationship, very vulnerable, and I imagine very inexperienced — you’re very liable to end up in a mess. Hold back a bit. Don’t lose your own centre of gravity, prioritise your own emotional health and your friendships. If this relationship is a good thing, it will be all the stronger for it.

Aquamarine1029 · 24/04/2023 23:10

jrunner · 24/04/2023 22:38

I understand that; however, he is the one who invited me to go with him.....

This is what I'm talking about. Possible love bombing that you aren't seeing. You've only known him for two months. Eight short weeks. I don't think it's appropriate that he invited you along on these times that he needs to see his dying mother. That's odd and weird to me. It's way beyond normal, just-started-dating behaviour.

jrunner · 24/04/2023 23:20

Youngatheart00 · 24/04/2023 22:43

Take it steady. If you feel like you need to send him a huge emotional essay, take it from me and write it in your notes and go for a walk, run, yoga, shopping, cinema, anything!! It sounds as if the relationship could be something very special but you don’t want to burn so bright so soon you burn yourselves out when navigating stressful situations which are quite literally life or death.

Give him some space but make sure you let him know you’re there for him

Thank you. This is very sound, excellent advice and I greatly appreciate it. I have already told him several times that I am here for him during this incredibly tough time in his life, so he's already fully aware that he has me in his corner. I don't want to keep beating it into him. He already knows and said that he is very appreciative.

I think you are spot on in reference to burning so bright so soon. While I have yet to experience the loss of a parent (thank goodness), I know that this is an incredibly difficult and sad time in his life that he has to navigate and we all handle grief differently. He lives in my area, which is nearly 3 hours from where his mother and siblings are. He drives to see her a couple of times per week, which I am sure is extremely draining. I definitely don't want to be overbearing or suffocating to him, especially during this difficult time that he's going through in preparation of losing both his mother and his pup that he's had for nearly 2 decades. I very much cherish what we have and our time together and I sure as hell don't want to let anything ruin it or cause it to fizzle out. He came into my life when I was in a pretty dark place and he has brought me so much joy, fun, happiness, and much needed companionship. Whenever I am with him, I am simply happy. I don't know how else to describe it. I feel so comfortable and amazing when I am with him. He makes me feel alive for the first time in many years.

I completely realize and accept that he's probably going to need a bit of space with all that he is going through. I can tell how overwhelmed and emotionally exhausted he is. He slept A LOT this weekend. Last night, I just laid next to him and rubbed his back to try and make him feel better and he immediately went to sleep. He had done the same thing for me on Saturday night, so I wanted to reciprocate. He told me a couple of weeks ago that he is "okay" with his mother about to pass because he has had time to prepare for it, that she has had a full, long life, and he knows that she is going to "a better place." He even had a near death experience himself about 6 years ago, where he was clinically dead for 5 minutes. He went to the other side and said he it was so beautiful that he didn't want to come back. However, even knowing that she is going to a beautiful and peaceful place, he is having a very difficult time, which is to be expected. When he met me at the hotel this past Saturday, he had just come from visiting his mother and it was obvious that he had been crying. He told me that she wasn't doing well at all. I told him that I wish I had words that could take away his pain, but that I am here for him. It was definitely an emotionally charged weekend for him. Each time he visited her, he came back looking like he had been crying. Yesterday, he told me that his mother said to him just before he left, "Please don't give up on me." OMG, even I almost broke into tears when he told me that. I just care about him so much and I'm not sure how to be there for him without being there TOO much so as to make him feel suffocated or obligated to spend every single weekend with me. I have developed very strong feelings for him in these last couple of months and I just need to learn how to manage my own feelings while simultaneously being there for him without being overbearing.

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Alcemeg · 24/04/2023 23:22

Although ideally you shouldn't lose your centre of gravity, you already have.

It's either a good situation or a bad situation. Too early to tell.

I think as long as you sort of ringfence yourself against stuff like financial loss, there is no right or wrong way to deal with your situation.

In your shoes, I'd tell him everything you've written here. If it's all real, it will all come good. If it's not, it won't. Life can be wonderful, and hard. It's all unpredictable.

All lessons are worth learning. Some things are worth risking emotionally. If only we could know in advance which is which!

Wishing the very best outcome for you OP 💞

Dithyramb · 24/04/2023 23:26

Aquamarine1029 · 24/04/2023 23:10

This is what I'm talking about. Possible love bombing that you aren't seeing. You've only known him for two months. Eight short weeks. I don't think it's appropriate that he invited you along on these times that he needs to see his dying mother. That's odd and weird to me. It's way beyond normal, just-started-dating behaviour.

Yes, exactly. And also, where are his friends, people he’s known and been close to for many years? Why is he inviting a very new girlfriend to accompany him on trips to see his dying mother?

OP, the more you write the clearer it is that you should pull back a bit and re-centre. Treat yourself the way you would treat someone high on drugs, which you are, really. You don’t know this man, and you’re giving him a frightening amount of power over your peace of mind.

jrunner · 24/04/2023 23:36

Dithyramb · 24/04/2023 23:26

Yes, exactly. And also, where are his friends, people he’s known and been close to for many years? Why is he inviting a very new girlfriend to accompany him on trips to see his dying mother?

OP, the more you write the clearer it is that you should pull back a bit and re-centre. Treat yourself the way you would treat someone high on drugs, which you are, really. You don’t know this man, and you’re giving him a frightening amount of power over your peace of mind.

His best friend/business partner also lives about 3 hours away and I have already met him. I don't necessarily think that there is anything wrong or any red flags with him inviting me. It's not like I'm actually going with to the nursing home with him when he visits his mother. I do my own thing while he visits her and then we get back together when he returns. Basically what it boiled down to was that we wanted to spend time together, but he also needed to visit his mother, so he said I was welcome to come along and that he would really enjoy my company. He also wanted to show me around where he grew up. I don't really see an issue with that.

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BitOutOfPractice · 24/04/2023 23:44

I wonder why you’ve posted op when you patently don’t want to listen to advice to SLOW DOWN!

did you just want to tell us all about this man and how marvellous it all is?

Anyway SLOW DOWN. What that hell has happened to the rest of your weekend plans when you’ve spent the last 8 weekends with him? Nope, it’s all far too much, far too soon!

jrunner · 24/04/2023 23:54

BitOutOfPractice · 24/04/2023 23:44

I wonder why you’ve posted op when you patently don’t want to listen to advice to SLOW DOWN!

did you just want to tell us all about this man and how marvellous it all is?

Anyway SLOW DOWN. What that hell has happened to the rest of your weekend plans when you’ve spent the last 8 weekends with him? Nope, it’s all far too much, far too soon!

Exactly when/where did I say that I "don't want to listen to advice???" I don't think I've said or even implied that, and I sure as hell did not post to say how "marvelous" it is. Good lord, it's as if you haven't even completely read a single one of my posts on this thread.....

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2bazookas · 24/04/2023 23:57

jrunner · 24/04/2023 22:27

He's not involving me in regard to his mother. I've never even met her. I don't go to the nursing home with him when he visits her. He will go and spend a couple of hours with her while I occupy myself either at the hotel gym or pool or by going to get coffee at Starbucks, where I'll bring my laptop and get some of my own work done. After he has visited his mother, we go out and have a nice time together.

Woosh.

These last few weekends should be just for his mother; not distracted by your presence/company or having to give you "a nice time".

You need to back off and stay home, so that he gets some space to process the last times with his mother

BitOutOfPractice · 24/04/2023 23:59

Erm I have. But everyone who’s told you to slow down has been met with “but but but…”

and come on op there is a lot of extraneous detail there about love’s young dream, yet the question you’re asking is as clear as mud as an afterthought at the end 😬

look I get it. These rebound relationships can be very intense and full on. I know, I’ve been there. Sometimes they’re the real deal. Often they’re not. Just be cautious. More cautious than you’re being now. If it is the real deal it’ll stand some caution, as will everything else in your life, and your heart.

jrunner · 25/04/2023 00:01

2bazookas · 24/04/2023 23:57

Woosh.

These last few weekends should be just for his mother; not distracted by your presence/company or having to give you "a nice time".

You need to back off and stay home, so that he gets some space to process the last times with his mother

These weekends have not been about him "having to give me a good time." In fact, I told him multiple times to not worry about me and that I am here to support HIM, that we don't even need to go out or do anything fun, and that if he just wants to rest/sleep, that is perfectly fine. I told him that I was up for doing whatever he felt up to doing under these circumstances and to not feel obligated to entertain me. Again, HE invited ME, not the other way around. He KNOWS that I'm not there for fun/enjoyment, but more so to be there for him during this difficult time. Goodness, I am NOT a selfish or insensitive person.....

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BitOutOfPractice · 25/04/2023 00:07

But just because he invites you, doesn’t mean you have to go. I think you should say “I think this weekend should be all about your mom and siblings so I’ll leave you this time to concentrate on that and to rest. I’m on the end of the phone if you need me and I’ll see you very soon”.

and do something for yourself, with others. Give yourself - and him - some breathing space. It sounds like you both need it.

is that advice specific enough.

Aquamarine1029 · 25/04/2023 00:10

Again, HE invited ME, not the other way around.

Yes, but you did agree to go. You could have said for him to go see his mother on his own and you'll see him as soon as he has some free time. The both of you are somewhat guilty of doing far too much, far too soon.

Try to see this from an outsiders perspective, which is what you've asked for by the way. You barely know him. He barely knows you. You've gone from zero to 100 in a very, very short amount of time, and now you're having misplaced anxiety over the status of your relationship.

MsPavlichenko · 25/04/2023 00:13

If you are both crazy for each other, I’m astonished you have only “ been intimate” a few times. At this point I would expect that to be a
big thing (!) in your relationship. I know he has a lot going on but in my considerable experience of loss, and grief that doesn’t hinder sexual desire, often the opposite.

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