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Is it reasonable to holiday with friends and not your partner?

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Livelifelaughter · 20/04/2023 09:43

So for context. In my 50s and so was my now ex. I want to learn from the relationship breakdown and what could have worked better.
One aspect I found challenging was his very close friendship with a man 25 years older, gay and who was a priest at his university and he met when he was 20. In our 10 month relationship I never met this person as he lived in Paris, but he would invite my boyfriend over frequently sometimes they would meet just for dinner sometimes for the weekend, I would say every 5 weeks on average. He didn't come to London and my boyfriend explained that I would have met him if he had.
Also my boyfriend would go a weekend break 3 times a year with this person, and a relative of the person and wife; I felt as it was a trip with a couple I should have been invited but later just thought to leave them to it.
Towards the end of our relationship my ex mentioned that he and this were going on holiday to Thailand for 2 weeks later in the year. My boyfriend had taken me on two lovely weekend breaks and had joined me on a weekend that I planned. But he hadn't discussed a holiday at all. I was NOT objecting to his trip to Thailand but I said I felt he should have discussed it with me and not dropped into conversation.
He said when discussing our break up that he felt we had moved to fast and the relationship was too serious and felt like marriage at times (we didn't live togethe, saw each other 2/3 nights a week, but spoke every day); he said if we were married it would not have been right for him to go away with his friend but it was ok because we were dating - I agree he shouldn't need to ask "permission" but I explained it was more to do with him spending so much time with someone who I did not know at all when he didn't really make plans for us and I felt he should have discussed the idea with me.

I want to learn from the break up so would like to know if I was too demanding?

By the way this wasn't the reason we broke up...

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Watchkeys · 20/04/2023 15:01

I agree there's no rights or wrongs

So what's your query? Nobody can answer whether something is reasonable to you apart from you. You didn't like it, so there's your answer. Why the need for a forum?

DrMeredithGrey2023 · 20/04/2023 15:06

8 months in, living separately, separate finances - don't think there's anything wrong with booking a holiday and then telling you about it.

Livelifelaughter · 20/04/2023 15:45

DrMeredithGrey2023 · 20/04/2023 15:06

8 months in, living separately, separate finances - don't think there's anything wrong with booking a holiday and then telling you about it.

Maybe I expected too much.
I think I became a bit fixated that he would rather share a really exciting experience with someone else who he goes away with more than me anyway.

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Livelifelaughter · 20/04/2023 15:48

DrMeredithGrey2023 · 20/04/2023 15:06

8 months in, living separately, separate finances - don't think there's anything wrong with booking a holiday and then telling you about it.

I get that, but we both agreed we were in a serious relationship and talked a lot so I suppose my point was I would have liked a " Am thinking of spending 2 weeks in September with x exploring Thailand, shall we have a holiday together as well ?"

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Livelifelaughter · 20/04/2023 15:52

jojobud · 20/04/2023 14:17

i am going away abroad for 2 weeks with my friend i booked it and didn't tell my partner as he was at work until a few days later, i already have a holiday booked with him and know he wouldn't be able to get more leave so didn't see the need to discuss it with him beforehand, i am even away for his birthday, he isn't even slightly bothered other than i leave meals for him batch cooked in the freezer, i couldn't think of anything worse than having to run things past one another at our age me 40's him nearly 60, we have a great relationship purely by trusting one another and doing what we want when we want

That works for you. You already had a holiday booked and knew he couldn't get away. I also assume he has met your friend?
I definitely couldn't be in a relationship where we didn't discuss how we want to spend time together, it really isn't about trust for me it's about understanding each other's world's...

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maddy68 · 20/04/2023 16:08

Of course it's ok to holiday with friends

Livelifelaughter · 20/04/2023 16:25

maddy68 · 20/04/2023 16:08

Of course it's ok to holiday with friends

Agree, I never suggested it wasn't

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ladykale · 20/04/2023 17:25

Your partner was in a relationship with this gay friend obviously...

SteelMack · 20/04/2023 17:29

Out of interest OP ..... what was the reason why your relationship ended?

itsmylife7 · 20/04/2023 17:39

You minded because you know deep down inside there's a reason why you were never invited.
Your ex is in "some type ," of relationships with his gay friend.

They didn't want you around as it would be obvious .

And no I wouldn't involve a boyfriend about my holiday plans.

Livelifelaughter · 20/04/2023 18:41

itsmylife7 · 20/04/2023 17:39

You minded because you know deep down inside there's a reason why you were never invited.
Your ex is in "some type ," of relationships with his gay friend.

They didn't want you around as it would be obvious .

And no I wouldn't involve a boyfriend about my holiday plans.

I think you're right. I never minded and thought it was lovely that he went away with other friends but this friendship was too compartmentalised and I just felt the dynamic was really odd.

My now ex said that this friend didn't like him nipping off to call me...but he still did.

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Livelifelaughter · 20/04/2023 18:43

SteelMack · 20/04/2023 17:29

Out of interest OP ..... what was the reason why your relationship ended?

He was overwhelmed by a fraught divorce and couldn't give energy to us. Also he felt he had underlying commitment issues which manifested in not wanting to make future plans...

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Skankhunt84 · 20/04/2023 19:12

Did you ever actually ask him to go on a holiday with you?

Livelifelaughter · 20/04/2023 19:16

Skankhunt84 · 20/04/2023 19:12

Did you ever actually ask him to go on a holiday with you?

Yes ! But he never seemed to want to commit to dates etc

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HarpendenHarpendenHarpenden · 21/04/2023 10:06

It sounds like you're best off out of it. Some relationships can be nice in lots of ways, but there be things that you're glad to be away from.

There's just a subtle line where too many exciting holidays without you starts feeling like they don't want to share their life experience with you. No matter how lovely they are, it just does kind of sting.

Certainly not suggesting that people must go away together always though. It just has a line.

Livelifelaughter · 21/04/2023 10:20

HarpendenHarpendenHarpenden · 21/04/2023 10:06

It sounds like you're best off out of it. Some relationships can be nice in lots of ways, but there be things that you're glad to be away from.

There's just a subtle line where too many exciting holidays without you starts feeling like they don't want to share their life experience with you. No matter how lovely they are, it just does kind of sting.

Certainly not suggesting that people must go away together always though. It just has a line.

Yes...
Honestly, I never had an issue with him going on guys city breaks, not would I have had a problem about a week on a beach or something similar, but I think when it's exciting adventures for two weeks it stung as you say...

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