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"but it's not enough is it?"

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Isthatacunningdisguise · 17/04/2023 18:35

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In a 30+yr marriage.
Raised a family, very very open and honest and accepting of each other's needs and desires. All good....until recently.
We have it all, except loving intimacy. Haven't for many many years. For some reason, as we look to the future, we've realised acutely that one of us will be "less of a whole" because part of their "being" is unfulfilled.
We've lived with this unsaid for at least a decade, but not sure now if we can live with one of us knowing they may never be truly whole, and the other knowing that they can't offer their partner what they need and perhaps lives with the knowledge they may one day find it elsewhere.
Any "vintage" MNs out there have experience of similar? I guess I'm not looking for answers, just shared experiences. Thank you.

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Allwelcone · 17/04/2023 18:46

Ah lovely post. Im married 20 years, together 25...much the same.
What is love? When you are known as a "happy couple" but feel guilty that you can't do it ALL, you know, conjure up weekly in-love sex and intimacy...as well as hold a house and family together...
I do fake a headache, fall asleep, I just can't be bothered.
Isn't that the way of it sometimes? You can't have it all....

ShandaLear · 17/04/2023 19:11

It means that only one of you is truly happy in the relationship, while the other feels deeply that something is missing. For me, intimacy is the bedrock of a relationship. It’s the glue that promotes closeness and harmony, as well as physical and emotional well-being, and it’s just so satisfying. Without it you’re close friends and housemates really. I suppose there are a few options:

  1. Carry on as you are knowing that one of you is not fully happy in the relationship and may be open to an affair, which may or may not impact on the marriage (depending on whether you/he knows and/or cares/is willing to turn a blind eye)
  2. Explore options for resuming intimacy - therapy/hormone treatment/little blue pills, etc.
  3. Part ways and each live your life the way you want to.

My DP was in a sexless marriage for many years, as was I, and it crippled both our self esteems. If both partners are happy then brilliant, but if one is not then it can be profoundly sad to know that you are missing out on something that can give so much joy and comfort, and relaxation and pleasure. It’s lovely to know that someone else finds you attractive, and wants to please you, and prioritises privacy with you.

Isthatacunningdisguise · 17/04/2023 19:49

Thank you so much for your thoughtful replies..... I know I'm not alone.

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BCBird · 17/04/2023 20:05

I was in a relationship fir two and a half years. It was my first relationship. I was mid 40s. We had incompatible sex drives. He was just not bothered. I felt like a sexual predator. It nearly broke me. In my next relationship I met simeine who was ad keen as me. The contrast was wonderful. Whst I am saying is if one of you wants intimacy but the other is not bothered,i believe it is too much of a compromise. Hope you can fund a resolution.

KCandtheSunlightBand · 17/04/2023 21:03

I’ve posted some of this on another thread recently. I realised I could no longer continue in a sexless, affectionless 30 year relationship. The lack of intimacy had been for most of the marriage. It had caused terrible self esteem issues for me. I would ‘cause a lot of drama and upset’, my husbands words, by raising the issue a few times a year, nothing would change. He would carry on living his life and I would carry on living his life too. Eventually I realised that it was never going to change, my needs (and believe me by this stage of the relationship I’d have been grateful for any scraps of intimacy) would never be met and I ended the relationship last year, after months of personal torment. On reflection he had actually trained me to stop loving him, as it was just too painful to continue to do so.

Its been terribly difficult, he has taken it so badly, and I constantly ask myself what I could have done to fix it rather than end it (but of course I had tried everything). I can’t believe that he felt that strongly about me or/and the relationship and that he hadn’t realised that this was a possibility, as I was clearly not happy with the terms of our relationship.

Most of the time I feel stronger, and so much better, home life is difficult, but hopefully will be sorted in the next 6 months. I just wish I had made the decision a decade ago, when I had more time to sort things financially which are going to be very tight, as we are both right on the point of retirement.

Of course, I don’t know if I will ever meet anyone else, but to live on my own must be an improvement on the torment of being with someone who doesn’t see you as a sexual, sensual being, sharing a bed with someone who won’t put an arm around you, kiss or even say goodnight. In my heart I was becoming a very sad, bitter person, and strangely all that left me once I had made the decision to leave the relationship.

Whatever your decision, I hope it works out to be right for both of you.

Isthatacunningdisguise · 18/04/2023 00:11

Again, thank you both for your thoughtful, heartfelt responses. I feel sad, accepting of the inevitable really. Not resentful. We've both sacrificed huge amounts for each other....we're good people.

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