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Why am I so bereft about my DD marriage ending?

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JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 12/04/2023 21:12

DD (early 30s) has just told her husband of just over a year that she no longer loves him and wants to end the marriage - no children.

They’ve been together for a total of 7 years and I’m actually very fond of him. She had a couple of wobbles. Was unsure about 3 years ago about the relationship and then nearly called off the wedding last year, but they talked things through and appeared to have resolved their issues. He’s always seemed very level headed and a great balance to her more spontaneous and driven personality.

They seemed so in love on the wedding day and I’ll never forget the way he looked at her when she walked to the altar. They had separate interests, she’s very gregarious and has a good long-standing friendship group, he’s quite happy playing on his computer or having drinks with his mates, but as far as I was aware, they were happy and seemed relaxed and comfortable together and things seemed to be working.

Last week, she told me that whilst she cared about him, she didn’t love him anymore and that they had been living separate lives for months. She said she’s made efforts to rekindle their relationship, but if they went out for a meal, out would come his phone. She tried to take him away on holiday but he spent the time there on his laptop playing online games or watching films. He wouldn’t even go for a walk and to just talk. He promised he would try, but admitted after work, he was quite happy not doing much and chilling, where she loves being busy, having a project or just chatting.

At the weekend, she told him she’d had enough and although he pleaded with her to give it another chance, she said she was just weary of trying and had reached the end of the line with him. He was absolutely distraught and took it really badly and says he can’t believe she’s wanting to end it - even questioning her sanity (she has had anxiety in the past) and said he couldn’t believe it, “after I helped you through your depression!” I understand this was said from a place of hurt and anger because he was actually very supportive at the time but it stung her.

She’s completely calm and rational. Has clearly thought this through and carefully planned her course of action and where she’s heading. Shes genuinely very sad she’s hurt him but says she feels relief at bringing things to an end, can’t stay with a man she doesn’t love and I actually think she’s very brave to have the courage to admit to her lack of feelings and I support her decision entirely.

However, I illogically feel so, so sad and I don’t know why? I get that they weren’t compatible but I keep thinking about his current pain, the fact that we won’t see him again, his lovely parents who we got on with so well and I feel so disloyal to my DD even thinking this. I admitted it to my DH and adult DS and they said they actually feel similar. Is this normal??!!

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tatteddear · 13/04/2023 17:59

@garlictwist that's what my parents were like when I split up with exh. They loved him and wouldn't hear a word against him. I didn't tell them at first that he'd had an affair with a friend of mine as I knew it would upset them and I guess I assumed they would be on my side anyway. They Weren't and even though they felt bad when they found out the whole truth and were eventually supportive of me, the damage had been done-I find it quite hard to forgive tbh even now.
So whatever you do, don't do that OP! Your daughter seems to have made a sensible considered choice here.

aSofaNearYou · 13/04/2023 18:00

I don't really agree with the comments saying there's no reason you can't still have a relationship with him - I'd see how your DD would feel about this because it can put a lot of strain on your relationship with your child, which is no doubt the priority, depending on how they feel about it.

Vexxa · 13/04/2023 18:25

I think your feelings are normal and understandable.
If I can offer a different perspective, I am in my early 30s and several of my friends are recently divorced or divorcing. The friend who had no children with their ex is now very happily remarried with a young son. My friends who have children are finding their divorces much more painful and protracted, and of course they will co-parent with their exes for the rest of their lives. I think it was very brave of your daughter to be honest that she wasn't happy at an earlier stage in her marriage and I hope a bright future awaits for her.

Oblomov23 · 13/04/2023 18:32

Normal to be saddened.

In time you can talk to her about how she made such an error of judgement in the first place. Why did it not bother her before, he hasn't changed. Hopefully her own emotional awareness will get better through this.

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 13/04/2023 18:35

aSofaNearYou · 13/04/2023 18:00

I don't really agree with the comments saying there's no reason you can't still have a relationship with him - I'd see how your DD would feel about this because it can put a lot of strain on your relationship with your child, which is no doubt the priority, depending on how they feel about it.

I think to do it would feel incredibly disloyal to my DD. He’s not in anyway a bad man, she just recognised he’s just not the one for her, and I think she would interpret any contact from me to him as sending a subtle message that I don’t fully support her decision or that I might be interfering. That’s why I’m sad, because I know this has to be absolutely final.

The sentimental side of me would love one final opportunity to give him a hug, say we are sorry it was not meant to be but that we will always cherish the memories and to wish him all the best for the future. However, because of the emotions on both sides, I realise this is quite unrealistic and could sadly make things even more fraught.

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Leakingtoilet · 13/04/2023 18:36

My eldest DD has been with her partner 8 years, I would be gutted if they split up. I'd obviously support her totally but to me he is part of the family.

I think it's normal to feel that way

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 13/04/2023 18:48

Oblomov23 · 13/04/2023 18:32

Normal to be saddened.

In time you can talk to her about how she made such an error of judgement in the first place. Why did it not bother her before, he hasn't changed. Hopefully her own emotional awareness will get better through this.

No excuses, but she had a couple of disastrous relationships in her mid 20s and when she got involved with him, she said there was never a great passion or powerful attraction but he was steady and reliable and she thought that maybe this is what a grownup mature relationship feels like. After 7 years, I think she realises she wants more than just a compromise.

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Milkand2sugarsplease · 13/04/2023 18:48

It's normal to feel sad and a sense of loss. You can't help liking a child's partner any more then disliking them and having to tolerate them. If you like them and they subsequently split, you're bound to be sad about that - you're losing a relationship with someone you like, it's sad. DD might not get it yet because she's had time to come to terms with the end of her marriage, especially as she's made the decision whereas you're having this just thrust upon you and there's little you can do about it.

Beanfield2023 · 13/04/2023 18:53

He took her for granted op and pushed his luck to the limit . Good for her for wanting more than someone who just wants to sit in front of a screen . She gave the marriage a fair go .

burnoutbabe · 13/04/2023 20:23

I'd like to think that my parents could still be in touch with my partner (13 years) if we split (assuming mutual decision, no one did a bad thing)

Not like taking him oh holiday but Facebook friends and a card at Xmas. I know my mum is still Facebook mates with my sisters ex (as am I) , and congratulated her when she had a baby plus the ex came to my sisters wedding too. So all civil.

billy1966 · 13/04/2023 22:25

OP, very understandable that you are disappointed.

Definitely keep it completely to yourself.

She is a brave woman and should be commended.

I think he sounds awful.

Lazy, dull, selfish, disinterested in working at the relationship at all, more interested in technology than her, despite her letting him know things needed to be worked on.

IMO he badly let her down by putting zero effort into the relationship and completely taking her for granted.

He may not be a "bad" man but she is well rid of him and I would not advise you keep up contact.

I think that could absolutely come across as very disloyal.

I can well understand your disappointment but I would be far upset if she had had a child with him.

This is a nice clean break from a starter marriage.

She will have learnt to listen to her gut, which was obviously warning her that they were unsuited over the years.

I think she will have learned a lot about herself and will be wiser for it.

JohnPrescottsPyjamas · 14/04/2023 13:41

Out of the blue phone call received from SIL today thanking us for our love and support over the years and also wanting to ensure we heard his side of things, which I guess is understandable. He was adamant he had supported her completely, despite what she had said, and that she could also not be easy to live with and that he had stood by her when things had been tough in the past.

A tricky one to negotiate as I have no doubts that neither side was perfect. I told him that sometimes a couple just aren’t compatible but are still lovely individual people and that we would always have precious memories of the good times. He said she was never happy, no matter what he did and that he couldn’t have tried harder to save the marriage, which I think he genuinely feels - but clearly it ultimately wasn’t what DD wanted, otherwise she would have fought harder for it too. A very sad conversation but, much as I hate the expression, I think we got a bit of closure.

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Groutyonehereagain · 14/04/2023 13:44

Yes completely normal. Don’t question yourself @JohnPrescottsPyjamas , your emotions are absolutely appropriate. It does get better. 💐

Groutyonehereagain · 14/04/2023 13:45

Yes completely normal. Don’t question yourself @JohnPrescottsPyjamas , your emotions are absolutely appropriate. It does get better. 💐

billy1966 · 14/04/2023 14:07

Glad you feel you may have gotten some closure.

I think you handled the call well.

I would take what he has said about his efforts as self serving and very much coming from a place of feeling sorry for himself which is understandable.

He took her for granted, however it doesn't sound like it was ever a good fit.

Opposites aren't always a great fit IMO.

Whilst we can have strengths that complement each other and rub along very well, having a shared vision for what your life together will look like is important.

Enjoying similar travel ambitions, food, sports, culture etc. can add another level to your enjoyment, if shared.

I'm not suggesting that all things must be shared, but it does help is there is some crossover.

She will have learned from this.

You sound like a great mother.

In your place I would strongly recommend to her that she gets some solo counselling to help her process and move on.

I see no point in her spending an extended period in recovery from this.

It is but one short chapter in her life, and she has plenty of time to meet someone else that suits her better.

Wishing her and you well.

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