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So called male friend crossing boundaries

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Namechange0519 · 09/04/2023 21:48

I have a male friend who I met at my previous place of work in around 2017. He wasn’t from around where I live, he lives much further up north but we would speak frequently on the phone about work related things at work.

I left my job after maternity leave about 2 years after this and we stayed in touch on Facebook and around the same time myself and my ex split and him and his partner split up. I really felt like we had created a good friendship bond, we got on really well and we was there for each other during our break ups and ever since we have stayed in contact speaking on the phone not as regularly as before but I’d say once a month and we would text and check in about once a fortnight.

he met a new partner about 3 years ago and they split up a few month back. He had confided in me that she enjoyed a drink a bit too much on nights out and she would frequently get so drunk she couldn’t stand up and he was extremely worried. He said he had given her an ultimatum and said it’s the drink or him and she had apparently chosen the drink so she moved out etc.

I know he is devastated by this and he claims he’s had a break down (I do believe that).

anyway, he phoned me about 3 weeks ago and asked if it would be ok for him to come down (he’s been to my house before so I was comfortable with it) and stay over(never stayed over before), we could go out for tea and have a catch up and also that he was due at a meeting close to where I live for 10am so it would save him travel time. I thought ok no problem, makes sense and it would be good to see him in person as the last time we saw each other was in October last year.

i said will be he ok sleeping in the spare bedroom and he said no he would rather cuddle with me… I laughed it off and said the spare room will have to do for him and he said that’s fine.

so he arrived at my house and straight away I could smell stale alcohol on him. We set off in a taxi to a local pub to get our tea and he was telling me again about the break up.. but this time he told me a totally different story as to why this happened. I didn’t question this, just made a mental note of it.
I got my tea but he didn’t get any food just sank back a few pints and then I suggested we should leave as it was about 8.30/9pm by this point.

he insisted on stopping at a petrol station on the way home and getting some wine, I said I was ok for any more drinks (I had 2 gins at the pub, I’m not a big drinker but I was happy knowing I was within my limits). We got back to mine and he polished this bottle of wine off in record time. He was moving closer and closer to me on sofa and eventually had his hand on my leg which i brushed off but put it down as he was comfortable with me.

anyway about 12 I was more than ready for bed, I was dropping hints yawning etc and then thought why am I dropping hints in my own house and said I’m going to bed but if you want to stay up you can do (I trusted him) he said no I’ll go to bed as well. I went upstairs first quickly put my pjs on, shut my door and got into bed and went to sleep.

About 4am he came in my room and woke me up by lifting up my quilt and ushering me to move up which I did in a sleepy haze and he got in bed and started spooning me.. I wasn’t very comfortable with this but he said he was cold in the spare room and I thought that maybe he felt a bit sad and lonely given what he was going through so I allowed it.

he started touching me and groping me and asked if I wanted to do this and I said no I know you’ve got a lot going on at the minute and he said ok no problem and resumed the spoon… and then he started again. I was stiff As a board, legs clamped shut I don’t believe I was giving him any indication that i wanted this to carry on but for some reason I allowed it. He didn’t have sex with me, he was touching me under my pj top and eventually got to down there. I was thinking should I just do it? Or not?

i let him do it but I don’t know why. I didn’t enjoy it and wanted him to stop but I don’t know why I didn’t say anything.

he stayed in my bed for the rest of the morning and left about 10am but I just wanted him to leave but as silly as it sounds I didn’t want to come across as rude!!

I haven’t spoke to him since he left but I feel upset by him getting into bed with me and the touching happening. I feel like he had used me to make himself feel better and I have really seen him in a different light now especially with the discrepancy in the break up story and I think he is a narcissist from this new story he told me.. I think at the time I was a bit worried about the situation I had found myself in, with him having so much to drink on assuming an empty stomach and this new light I have become to see him in. I just wanted it over.

I don’t want to through around the SA word but I really do think he has over stepped the mark after twice being told no (1. To the sleeping arrangement and 2. When he asked me if I wanted to) but I don’t know if I’m just feeling ashamed and a bit guilty about the whole thing

sorry that it’s so long I wanted to get everything in.

please be kind in your responses 💕

OP posts:
RedLines · 10/04/2023 12:14

This is terrible for you and was not your fault, 100% was the fault of the man. You were explicit about not wanting to have sex, about not wanting to share a room or a bed, about not wanting to continue.
There is no equivocation in your position. It is never acceptable for a man to sneak into your room at 4am and climb into bed with you when you have said no to it. (I am a late 50's guy.)
You didn't consent to having sex with him. I am sure there are better qualified people out there to advise you but you do not need to be passive about there. This was not your fault, at all, and you should have no guilt or shame about it, he was wrong not you!
This man will do this to others if you let him, and probably already has!

I am so so sorry that this has happened to you. All men are not like this.

Namechange0519 · 10/04/2023 12:47

I thought I would feel riddled with guilt, because somewhere it doesn’t feel real if that makes sense? But I feel like I have really stood up for myself because it would be, in a way, easier for me to not do or say anything and try to forget about it, but I would of had an internal battle with myself if I took no action.

thanks all for the courage and helping me do this and I’m very sorry to those who have shared similar experiences that you’ve had to go through this too! It is simply not okay!

OP posts:
Ooolaaaala · 10/04/2023 13:13

Well done to you. I hope you can savour your current sense of agency by reporting and it goes a little way to salve the shock of the assault.

There is HUGE emotional as well as physical betrayal here as well as the 6 year friendship was not with who you thought he was and you have shared vulnerabilities with him.

I am sorry that this predatory man attacked you. Do you have people IRL to talk to for support?

billy1966 · 10/04/2023 13:21

You poor very very brave woman.

I am so sorry that piece of shit deliberately assaulted you.

He was absolutely deliberate.

Well done for reporting it.

He has possibly done this before and would do it again.

Well done for bringing him to the attention of police.

You are so brave.

Thisgirlcan21 · 10/04/2023 13:25

Sounds like he is the one with alcohol problem. What he did was awful. It also sounds like you froze.

Namechange0519 · 17/04/2023 11:43

Hi all just an update

so I went to the police station today to make my statement but my appointment is actually tomorrow 🙈 I felt so so sick in the waiting room I felt like I was either going to throw my guts up or burst into tears - when she told me it’s tomorrow I was a bit relieved but then hit by extreme anxiety knowing I had to come back tomorrow. So I’ve spoken to them and they have agreed a telephone call on Wednesday. My anxiety was so bad I was considering just withdrawing it all completely but deep down I know I need to see it through as I do not know this man and he could be doing this to several other women. And I am feeling much better about making my statement via speaking to someone on the phone, I was worried about being in a room with male police officers and them not believing me or being judged by the police officers. I didn’t think it would get me into this much of a spin but it has! I have crawled into bed now as I feel exhausted from it all!

OP posts:
twilightcafe · 17/04/2023 11:51

Good for you, OP.

Block that piece of 💩 and never accept any contact/friend request from him again.

TempNCforthis · 17/04/2023 11:53

What a complete and utter bastard he is. I'm so glad you've reported it.

WakeMeUpInspring · 17/04/2023 11:58

Glad you've reported and blocked the scum bag.

You've been really brave.

billy1966 · 17/04/2023 12:02

You poor pet.

Bed is good for you.

You are so brave.

You are a strong woman and it was very clever to do it by phone.

Brave woman like you, help others.

He is utter scum.

We are here for you.

wizzywig · 17/04/2023 12:19

Op is there anyone in real life that you feel comfortable enough to go to the police station with? Or see afterwards? You've had an awful experience

brunettemic · 17/04/2023 12:28

Sorry this has happened to you, it sounds awful. He hasn’t just overstepped the mark, he has assaulted you.

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Namechange0519 · 17/04/2023 16:17

well I seems I did miss it - although I am not beating myself up for it. What has happened as happened and it’s not me who should be ashamed of my actions. It’s him.

I do have a friend in real life I have confided in and she reminded me today that the police are not there to judge, they are there to help. I’m looking forward to getting it over and done with to be honest I feel like just want to put it behind me now and move forward and At least I don’t have to worry about bumping into him around my town so that’s one less thing to worry about

OP posts:
ofasphodel · 17/04/2023 16:33

That's a sexual assault, he's a horrible predator.

Namechange0519 · 24/04/2023 22:39

Just a final update

so I was due my phone appointment tonight but it ended being a face to face visit in my home. There was some paperwork I needed to sign so I thought I’ll just see them in person and get it done so I can put it behind me.

wasn’t as nerve wracking as I thought although a few tears came out but the officer was lovely and very reassuring.

I have decided not to take it through to try and get a prosecution as he said it’s unlikely it would get to that stage with the lack of evidence but it’s been noted and I’m happy with that.

so just wanted to say if anyone else has been through something similar, please speak out, it may seem really scary at first but the police are there to help, not to judge and I’m so glad I saw it through.

Thanks for all your kind words it’s really helped during a tough time 💐 xx

OP posts:
HappyMe6 · 24/04/2023 22:46

Well Done

billy1966 · 24/04/2023 22:50

Well done OP.

His name being noted is a real positive.

Take care and wishing you the best.

monsteramunch · 24/04/2023 23:25

You've been so brave @Namechange0519 you should be really proud of yourself Flowers

emptythelitterbox · 26/04/2023 04:26

So very proud of you.

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