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Clare's law

31 replies

1potato · 06/04/2023 18:38

Does anyone know how the police approach a current partner if they suspect they may be at risk and there is something to disclose? If the request for information came from a third party, are they likely to ask the current partner if they would like to run a police check?

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SchoolTripDrama · 07/04/2023 02:29

TomAllenWife · 06/04/2023 18:50

Police don't approach the person at risk due to that risk increasing

In extreme cases they will. My friend was, sadly

AnyaMarx · 07/04/2023 02:53

I do referrals to partner agencies as part f the police role .

If I know something, and the partner doesn't, I can refer for a Claire's law disclosure on their behalf .

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1potato · 07/04/2023 07:47

Thanks for all the responses.

I had no idea that there are gaps in the system, such as localised storing on DV incidents.

I'm appalled by the incidents of police not ensuring the current partner's safety before delivering. How stupid is that.

OK it sounds like I've been assuming the system works effectively and there is more to it than bad policing but I think it is probably just bad policing.

And now I've had the conversation with my friend - which she volunteered not know I was involved- I do believe that it is bad lighting rather than black eyes.

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Gingerbeerfear · 07/04/2023 08:10

My friend put an application in to the police station in December 2022 in regard to her then partner and his concerning behaviour. I won’t disclose what he did but in my mind he should have been arrested as it involved a safeguarding issue with a child.

police never attended due to ‘lack of resources’ - told her to leave him (she did) and to this day she has never got the outcome of the Claire’s law report due to backlogs. Utter shit show.

Tinkeytonkoldfruit · 07/04/2023 08:31

How I understand it from work with police is there are generally two types of police checks PNC and PND - the PNC will bring up all the incidents within that force area, including any that were non-crimed etc. So will flag up all the DA incidents that maybe no further action were taken on. The PND looks at the national database but that would only show up arrests/convictions, so it doesn't flag up all the DA incidents that may have occurred where no further action was taken. I thought Clare's law was both PNC and PND checks (I'm social care for reference).

TooTrusting · 07/04/2023 08:44

Tinkeytonkoldfruit · 07/04/2023 08:31

How I understand it from work with police is there are generally two types of police checks PNC and PND - the PNC will bring up all the incidents within that force area, including any that were non-crimed etc. So will flag up all the DA incidents that maybe no further action were taken on. The PND looks at the national database but that would only show up arrests/convictions, so it doesn't flag up all the DA incidents that may have occurred where no further action was taken. I thought Clare's law was both PNC and PND checks (I'm social care for reference).

The man I'm talking about has no convictions. But multiple (double figures) complaints from former "intimate partners" (as the law calls them).
I do think this is a major flaw in the case of DA. Because this is an area of the law where the prosecution statistics are extremely low. So most complaints never proceed to a prosecution and never find their way into the national database, even with repeat perpetrators.

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