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STBEX mental health and my new relationship

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Springtime2021 · 06/04/2023 15:50

I've been separated with my husband for 2,5 years but still living under the same roof untill early this year. Divorce is under way but it could take months to be resolved.

Last years were tough. Ex H mental health issues (anger towards kids, meltdowns, depression, suicidal threats, possible linked to autism for which he is now starting with the assessment) took a toll on the whole family. Since STBEX moved out we can finally live more peacefully. We managed to establish reasonably regular visitations of kids at their father but I hear from kids that ex's anger issues continue.

Despite a long period of separation (or maybe exactly because of that), I realise that H is still not over me. He knows that our relationship was not good, that in the end we had nothing to give to each other. But we were together for 20 years and he seems to be unable to get over the breakup. During the separation he was several times mentioning suicide and I believe that in some crtitical moments he is able to do it. But given that the relationship was really toxic and his anger towards kids was increasing (no physical violence but shouting at them when they would not listen), I had to save myself and kids.

In these turbulent times, I've met someone else. I know it is still early days but we connect on many levels and he is all I was longing for in a relationship. I have a very open relationship with kids. I expect them to trust me and at certain point I could not hide this realationship from them because I would have to lie to them and I did not want to do that. They haven't met him yet, but would like to.

I asked ex H when we were still together and during separation to seek medical help. He made some small steps but never persisted in therapy for long enough to be effective. He is very lonely, has very few social contacts and noone he could really lean on for support. I can not support him any longer because I am just extending his (now unhealthy) bond with me. However, in the last two weeks my STBEX's mental health started to decline further. I know that I should tell him about my relationship soon (especially now that kids know) but I fear that that would push him to hurt himself. I know that he is an adult and responsible for his own life but he is also the father of my children.

After a long marriage, of which at least the last 5 years were one big struggle, I want to move on. I don't want to let go my (likely) the only chance to be with someone that truly feels like a soulmate and we share so many values. For me this is no way a rebound relationship as I had enough time to (also through therapy) analyse what brought me to such marriage.

Has anyone been in a similar situation? How did you tell them about a new partner when you knew that that would hurt them a lot?

OP posts:
Darhon · 06/04/2023 18:12

You now line separately. Other than discussing arrangements for the kids, you don’t need to discuss anything else. No need to announce your new relationship, no need to intervene with his health. Been in your situation with the end of a long relationship, kids, decline for last few years we were together. As it was ending, he met someone else and had an affair that did not last, he wanted me to support him. I had nothing left to give. I made sure he had friends and family to support him, suggested he got counselling. But beyond that, not my problem. You aren’t going to go back to him. But you don’t need to tell him anything at all.

Springtime2021 · 06/04/2023 23:39

Darhon · 06/04/2023 18:12

You now line separately. Other than discussing arrangements for the kids, you don’t need to discuss anything else. No need to announce your new relationship, no need to intervene with his health. Been in your situation with the end of a long relationship, kids, decline for last few years we were together. As it was ending, he met someone else and had an affair that did not last, he wanted me to support him. I had nothing left to give. I made sure he had friends and family to support him, suggested he got counselling. But beyond that, not my problem. You aren’t going to go back to him. But you don’t need to tell him anything at all.

Thank you for your thoughts.

I am not sure if I can keep this information from my Ex H. For now I've asked kids to not talk about it. But they are actually curious to meet my new boyfriend so it will probably happen soon. I can hardly ask my kids to keep this a secret. And if ex H hears this from them and not from me, i think it would hit him even harder.

His family lives far away and the only keep contact over phone. They know about his poor mental health but obviously they do not have the feeling that they should visit him. He has no close friends. It is clearthat he only had me as long as our marriage lasted.

OP posts:
PousseyNotMoira · 07/04/2023 00:09

Springtime2021 · 06/04/2023 23:39

Thank you for your thoughts.

I am not sure if I can keep this information from my Ex H. For now I've asked kids to not talk about it. But they are actually curious to meet my new boyfriend so it will probably happen soon. I can hardly ask my kids to keep this a secret. And if ex H hears this from them and not from me, i think it would hit him even harder.

His family lives far away and the only keep contact over phone. They know about his poor mental health but obviously they do not have the feeling that they should visit him. He has no close friends. It is clearthat he only had me as long as our marriage lasted.

You haven’t really engaged with what that poster is saying, so I’ll repeat it: NONE OF THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM.

Literally none of it. You are not his caretaker. Safeguarding his feelings isn’t your job. Stop making it your problem to deal with and just live your life.

Frogger8395 · 07/04/2023 00:37

But they are actually curious to meet my new boyfriend so it will probably happen soon. I can hardly ask my kids to keep this a secret.

Ffs it’s not a secret. It’s personal information that is not his concern.
Speak to your kids about boundaries and privacy. They should be able to understand their dad does not have the right to private information.

Moser85 · 07/04/2023 02:39

Hi @Springtime2021

My ex was similar when we split up, suicide threats/attempts etc. I very much restricted my life at the time so as not to trigger him so I totally understand your concern. The threats/attempts etc stopped when I stopped enabling him.

From your exes POV if you've been living together up until recently then a lot of the stages of grieving the relationship will have been delayed so ideally he would have more time, but you're right that it should come from you rather than the kids if you have to tell him.

When did you meet the new guy? I wouldn't be in a rush to introduce him to your kids at all personally (leaving your ex aside for a moment).

The first relationship after a long relationship ends, especially if it was a toxic one, can be extremely intense because you're comparing it to how bad the last one was and the experience was still so fresh so the feelings can be heightened....a lot of people mention that in a post that's up near the top of this board at the moment.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/4778311-so-desperately-heartbroken-in-physical-pain-please-help?page=1

And it could also just be 'new relationship energy' making you feel like he's your soulmate, people often think their new boyfriend/girlfriend is the greatest thing on earth during the first few months, but when that the NRE wears off they realise they weren't.

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