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Tricky family stuff

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Jellyheadbang · 05/04/2023 13:44

After a traumatic childhood and difficult adulthood I chose to estrange myself and protect myself and my kids from the emotional damage of bring involved with some family members.
I had felt a huge responsibility for my siblings and when we were in contact my guilt and empathy meant I was always doing favours, bailing them out, providing etc.
Later on my sense of responsibility meant I interfered where it wasn't wanted (had been asked to support in an abusive relationship then later on that support was no longer wanted and denied they ever asked for it)

I probably messed up as poor boundaries from our chaotic childhood.
Ultimately it left us in a weird place hence the estrangement.

Other siblings also estranged from each other and from me and it was sad but 'ok'.

It has kept me safe to an extent whilst still unravelling and processing damage.

Recently reestablished a relationship with a sibling following lockdown and deterioration of their relationship and of my health
we became support to each other but I was overlooking difficult aspects of our interactions because I was grateful to have family around.
I felt diminished and disrespected and often lied to (later this person admitted to me they had a real issue with honesty)
I let a lot slide because of our past trauma and tried to be supportive, non judgemental, kind etc

We were estranged from our abusive elder family member (EFM!)
as well as other siblings, the EFM became unwell and we were all in contact again.
It soon became an unhealthy dynamic which made me feel crap and miserable.

Suddenly it felt that all the anger and hatred for our abusive EFM disappeared because EFM was ill and it felt like there needed to be another target for those feelings.

i mentioned that i was finding it emotionally conflicting supporting a EFM who had abused me, which really annoyed my siblings and said it was irrelevant now.

Interestingly i had been the child the EFM had said it was 'hard to love' and i feel like that feeling has been passed down.

I was always the over sensitive over emotional one out of all of us (hadnt known at the time i was neurodivergent nor that my neglected long term physical condition would deteriorate so much over time)

I had always been put down or laughed at for my 'everything' , by the EFM who was super cold and by the siblings.
on reuniting there's been a lot of comparison between my 'issues' and their wellness, having it all together etc.

During this reuniting time, the other siblings have bonded and are really showily close again.

Throughout this time, things which should have happened for EFM care didn't .

because i hadnt been involved due to estrangement, i kept out of it at first but was hard to see so many things go wrong.

when i did get involved, the others didn't want my input. I and other family members had more relevant experience in this area but siblings wanted to 'manage' the situation which was frustrating.

They were generally rude and cold about me, my health, dismissive my experience ref this area of care, dismissive of input from others top of their game in this area.
Plus lies, gaslighting, slippery facts ref money, personal effects, family heirlooms etc.

I backed off to an extent because it was causing arguments and upsetting.
I understand we are all dealing with difficult emotions and memories etc so worked really hard not to challenge anything except really obvious legal stuff which needed to happen for this person to stay safe .
This really wound them up but i was sick of seeing this person keep ending up in the same state and them ineffectively managing a serious safeguarding concern because of what felt like pride or ego

I stayed involved to a point until I knew the person was 'safe' and going to be properly looked after.

I find grey areas and half the story difficult to process and I'm dealing with difficult emotions, poor health and managing family, work etc.

now, said person is safe. I've backed off because of the emotional stuff and now theyre in care, nobody knows of my existence.
the newly bonded siblings are doing regular visits, updating relatives etc and I feel like the bad smell who's crawled off out of the way and everyone is happy again.

I am aware I sound selfish and self obsessed but it has really unsettled me, particularly the complete personality changes.
it's left me feeling like I must be the toxic one as everyone has regrouped and I'm the only one feeling damaged by the whole thing.
Not sure what I'm asking, just need to get it out I think...as feeling so ruffled by it and just can't move past it in my head or heart
Should add am menopausal on top of other health issues which possibly doesn't help

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Defiantlynot41 · 05/04/2023 16:09

Sending you loads of sympathy - and a suggestion. I would get hold of a copy of How to do the Work by Dr Nicole LePera and read it, working through the exercises. If you like an action centred approach there is an accompanying work book How to Meet Yourself.

Have a look at her posts on Instagram to see if you like her approach, but honestly, it WILL help.

Jellyheadbang · 05/04/2023 16:29

Defiantlynot41 · 05/04/2023 16:09

Sending you loads of sympathy - and a suggestion. I would get hold of a copy of How to do the Work by Dr Nicole LePera and read it, working through the exercises. If you like an action centred approach there is an accompanying work book How to Meet Yourself.

Have a look at her posts on Instagram to see if you like her approach, but honestly, it WILL help.

Thank you that's sweet, I know it sounds silly but sometimes a bit of sympathy goes a long way!
I have not heard of this person, but yes I do prefer a practical activity based approach to work through so will check out her IG and consider the workbook.
I'm no spring chicken, I can't allow this dynamic to fester on indefinitely.
I don't know why I went in so unguarded this time, presumably because of the crisis element 🙃

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TheSilentSister · 05/04/2023 21:28

No advice but sending ((hugs)). It sounds incredibly difficult. You need proper counselling to unpick all this. Hopefully others will be on with good advice. I wish you well. x

laalaaland · 05/04/2023 21:53

Sending you lots of sympathy and a great big hug. Some families are just toxic. You can spend hours and hours trying to figure out what you could have done differently, but it will do no good, they will just constantly change the goalposts. You know you have done the right thing, ensuring the family member was safe. Now, leave them to it. Focus on your own healing. It is so hard. You are not alone though. Have you heard of the 'stately homes' thread?

Jellyheadbang · 05/04/2023 22:52

laalaaland · 05/04/2023 21:53

Sending you lots of sympathy and a great big hug. Some families are just toxic. You can spend hours and hours trying to figure out what you could have done differently, but it will do no good, they will just constantly change the goalposts. You know you have done the right thing, ensuring the family member was safe. Now, leave them to it. Focus on your own healing. It is so hard. You are not alone though. Have you heard of the 'stately homes' thread?

Thank you that's kind. I have such low self opinion that all I do is keep seeing everything I did wrong.
Their attitude to me has always left me feeling like the freak and this recent experience has put .e back feeling like I am not a worthy person.
I have walked on eggshells around this family my whole life and overcompensated so much for my own and others' shortcomings that werent my responsibilityto make up for.
I'm only just processing, really seeing and understanding the differences between us. I thought blood and shared experience made us the same , but it really hasn't.
Thanks, I do feel very alone, I appreciate your responses,
I know the stately homes thread, I've been around mn for a long time in various guises, I always found the thread too big and fast moving!
Maybe I should retry!

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Jellyheadbang · 05/04/2023 22:55

TheSilentSister · 05/04/2023 21:28

No advice but sending ((hugs)). It sounds incredibly difficult. You need proper counselling to unpick all this. Hopefully others will be on with good advice. I wish you well. x

Thank you for the hugs. I really appreciate it. Definitely need something to understand why I let myself become vulnerable.
I have pulled myself out of the swampy bit for now, just need to keep reminding myself why I've kept myself apart from the confusion and why I've backed off again now.

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