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Is he twisted and manipulative or genuinely paranoid?

14 replies

Ambxr · 01/04/2023 15:56

So I’ve constantly had issues with my partner speaking to women and justifying it, even speaking to his ex. When we went through a bad patch he began speaking to his ex and put their old photo on his socials, I was pregnant at the time but then went and spoke to my ex but it was nothing provocative or anything as me and him both know that ship has sailed and we don’t see one another like that it’s literally done, there are no feelings and I ain’t no cheating bitch. Whereas my partner when he spoke to his ex he told me his ex was confessing her undying love to him and saying how she can carry a baby for him etc despite her being married. He redownloaded all their memories and stuff together to be able to feel “love” and also was speaking to another girl arranging a date with her that he never went on but this was a girl he had told me to never worry about but whatever we moved forward from it (I was early stages pregnant and super not ok in the head and alone) he then got caught months later speaking to his other ex and flirting with her excessively, at this point I got so upset and emotional being further into my pregnancy and this girl sent me a msg laughing at the fact I was pregnant with his baby, he was messaging her right in front of me whilst she’s mocking me and I’m upset, I left him at this point he just turned me into a joke. I left and just focused on myself and one of my friends reached out he was a guy just someone from a friends circle I used to hang with when younger and I just spoke to him about being pregnant and my partner who comes from the same culture as him etc nothing more. Eventually me and my partner got back together but I didn’t think to tell him I’d spoken to that friend but he found out and was mad and then I had a ex colleague message me on insta he messaged me at 4am and I replied the next day when I saw it but I literally just was telling him about having a partner etc and asking about his and my partner blew up over this and said something must’ve happened between me and him why else would he message me at 4am and then he began trying to find my colleagues wife on social media to tell her. So was messaging girls by her name asking them if they were married to him. Anyways we moved on from that and then heavily pregnant we went to the doctors and we sat down and he began smirking saying this is so weird, when I asked what was so weird he said nothing so I saw the doctor and as soon as we stepped out the surgery some girl began messaging him saying omg I saw you excitedly etc when I asked who is she as he follows her and she follows him he began saying he doesn’t know who it is that saw him and is dm’ing him I said well you guys follow eachother and then he was like ohhhhhh she was the girl at the reception desk - Which I then linked the weird comment to but he denied it and we argued and then a week later we broke up. So I went to brunch with his female friend which he kicked off about and was fuming as he said I was out being single and with hoes when I was heavily pregnant and just needed to get out blah blah fast forward > he began messaging me saying his going to go link a girl and began sending me screenshots of them speaking and her flirting with him blah blah. A while later we made amends but he was being absolutely nasty to me and emotionally and mentally abusing me making me agree to being useless and telling me he will fuck girls and pay girls to suck him off inc my friends etc at this point I’m 8 months pregnant and so broken, I accepted all the horribleness and then I gave birth to our boy and 5 days later his calling his fuck buddy and a girl who wants to fuck him whilst I’m at my moms house he said it was nothing he was just telling them his going to focus on his family and won’t speak to them or some bs. After giving birth the first week we were moving from one place to another I was bleeding and in pain but I emptied and packed our things and moved them to the other place I was doing this until the AM with a baby few days old. We slept on the floor and I was in agony the next day we went and got some food and I just wanted to relax but he said his friends were coming which I said no to and he began mansplaining as to why they should come and I said I’m taking the baby going to my moms and things blew up but his friends still came and I left the next day. A few weeks or 2 later we reconciled and he would always be out when questioned he would deny it and it turned out he was with girls constantly and lying to me. Out with them all hours of the night when our baby way a few weeks old and I was suffering from postpartum. Anyways fast forward we tried to move on and I really struggled with this and eventually I just knew I need out and I ended the relationship this year but I’m back with him because everytime I try leave he keeps saying to me it’s because I have someone else. When I say there isn’t he says he doesn’t trust me because I spoke to my ex during that period and never told him about speaking to the guy who used to be a friend. He doesn’t understand I was ending it because of his bs not because I’ve done something or want to do something??

OP posts:
BlüeöysterCunt · 01/04/2023 15:59

I couldn't read it all but you both sound far too immature to be procreating

Pringleface · 01/04/2023 16:00
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Watchkeys · 01/04/2023 16:04

Regardless of the endless detail, you do understand that this question doesn't get asked in healthy relationships, don't you, @Ambxr ?

If you stay away from him, you won't need to write such long paragraphs, and you'll just be able to write stuff like 'I had a nice day today'. Life could be that simple, if you chose it.

CambsAlways · 01/04/2023 16:07

i seriously am lost for words

shouldisay · 01/04/2023 16:09

Just leave already. Read all of that back and seriously ask yourself if this is normal. Spoilers OP it fucking isn't. Go back to your mums, block him and move on. This is NEVER going to work.

Ambxr · 01/04/2023 16:14

I did try and leave for good but his refusing to let our relationship come to an end. He says he will prove to me his changed etc but that doesn’t change the fact he has these doubts about me and that’s what bothers me. He also has said he will kidnap our little boy if I leave and said “I’m telling you now”

OP posts:
Frith2013 · 01/04/2023 16:21

Have you got any of his threats as texts/messages?

Ambxr · 01/04/2023 16:24

Not the kidnapping one. I’ve only got texts where his angry or gaslighting me about something his very careful about what he says

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FishChipsMushyPeas · 01/04/2023 16:27

I'm sorry I couldn't follow some of it so I didn't actually read all of it but as someone desperately wanting to leave a jealous, controlling partner I beg you to get out while you can. This is some next level shit.

Crikeyisthatthetime · 01/04/2023 16:27

Get the grown-ups involved. Tell your mum, let her deal with him, the foul-mouthed disgusting maggot.

BlüeöysterCunt · 01/04/2023 16:31

Crikeyisthatthetime · 01/04/2023 16:27

Get the grown-ups involved. Tell your mum, let her deal with him, the foul-mouthed disgusting maggot.

This.

Watchkeys · 01/04/2023 16:32

Ambxr · 01/04/2023 16:14

I did try and leave for good but his refusing to let our relationship come to an end. He says he will prove to me his changed etc but that doesn’t change the fact he has these doubts about me and that’s what bothers me. He also has said he will kidnap our little boy if I leave and said “I’m telling you now”

Send him a message to let him know that if he contacts you again you will contact the police.

Follow through. Go from there.

He doesn't get to decide if you are single or not. That's your decision.

airmax · 01/04/2023 16:40

He will only get worse with the other women and making you feel confused and insecure and twisting your mind. Yes mind games and manipulation and mental and emotional abuse and threats are all Not love . Get away from him and don't believe anything that comes out of his mouth to win you round again. All of the things he'll say to win you round or make stuff seem like your fault be ready to not let it work on you. Stay strong and well done for noticing all this and reaching out x

Mabelface · 01/04/2023 17:11

You don't actually need his permission to leave him. You take the baby to your mum's and stay there. You then block his number and contact him another way, such as email, to say that communication will only be about the baby.

If you have worries about him being violent, you tell the police about any threats directed at you and call 999 if he turns up unannounced and kicks off.

Oh, and if he bad mouths you, so what. No one important to you will listen.

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