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I genuinely don't know whether I'm crazy or what....

79 replies

Whatjusthappenedthen · 30/03/2023 14:18

I don't even know where to start...I feel like my partners behaviour is driving me crazy and I can't get my head around how this all happens! Is it me, is it him...why can't we communicate?

Here's whats happened since yesterday, and this is fairly typical of our disagreements;

And here's the thing, I can never really remember how the arguments actually start, all I can ever remember is how unloved, lonely and disrespected I feel, then it all escalates so badly and I have no idea how to sort things out.

Anyway I basically I have a female cat that I was hoping to take to stud (don't have the mental energy to explain all that so please don't ask) but she's come into call this week, when I'm a bit short on money (to be able to justify a stud fee) as I recently had to pay out £800 for rhe car to pass it's MOT which wiped out my savings - I am on universal credit (joint claim) as I dont work due to anxiety and my partner is self employed, all bills, rent, food etc come out of my account and he only has to pay for his own van insurance/tax, phone contract and a machinery loan payment out of his earnings each month. He also pays for weekend food most weeks, I pay for the weekday shopping.

A couple of days ago I mentioned I thought the cat was coming into call but was stressed as it was such bad timing with the money situation, he said that at the end of the week he should be able to help out with the stud fee when he got paid, then he asked how much I would need, to which I blurted out "all of it, pretty much, at this rate!" as I was quite stresed with money. He didn't say anything so I took that as meaning he wouldn't be able to lend me the full amount.

Yesterday it was evident that my cat was in full call. This meant she needed to go to the vet for a snap test and straight to our chosen stud. I'd hinted around the subject for a couple of days, saying things like "it really looks like she's coming into call, I'm not sure what to do" and my partner would either stay silent or agree that yes, it looks like she was coming into call.
I didn't want to ask about money as I hate borrowing and couldn't organise my thoughts as to whether to breed her now, or wait until I have the fee saved up but risk her not coming back into call for another couple of months as she's a bit sporadic.

So yesterday, there she was in full call, rolling around and screaming and my partner mentioned nothing about taking her to stud or me borrowing some money.
What he did do, was eventually as if I was coming to the local market with him to get some plants.

I said no, the cat's in call and I am annoyed that I can't take her to stud as I'd need to borrow the money from you, but you haven't offered any and are now going to the market. He said nothing and just stared at me.
I then said something along the lines of saying I was confused that he had kind of offered to help out with the stud fee earlier that week but then when the cat had come into call he suddenly went quiet on me. He said "I offered you the money earlier in the week. I didn't think I needed to offer it again". And then we went round in circles where I was just saying that I didn't feel I should have to ask, he said he didn't feel like he needed to offer again, then he threw in the odd nasty statement like "you've been waiting for her to call since January, why haven't you got the stud fee saved?", I replied that he doesn't contribute a regular amount to the household and I'm so short on money and with the car having to be fixed...etc etc, then called him hypocritical because he can't save to save his life, yet he's off to the market to buy plants rather than contribute to the bills (thus lart is a recurring argument so tends to get dragged up by me a lot unfortunately).

He ended up walking out and doing something in the garden for half an hour before driving off in his van for a few hours.

When he came back, he didn't speak to me for a few more hours, I didn't seek out conversation but we were both civil when we had to speak (when the children came home from school etc).

By the evening things had calmed down, still tense but no more arguing.

This morning, he said he would lend me the stud fee if I needed it so we are just back from taking the cat to stud.

The problem is, when we got home I noticed the mini greenhouse I had got him for his birthday in Feb had disappeared from the garden. I asked where it was and he nonchalantly said " I broke it up and took it to the tip yesterday".
Cue another row - I asked why he'd do that, he said "it's because I felt like I couldn't even go to the market to get plants without being nagged at, so now I've solved the problem", me asking why he was being so cold about the fact he threw a present away, clearly to prove a point to me, and me thinking he should apologise about the argument yesterday (and me too, but nothing ever gets resolved as he never sees the part he had to play in things, therefore never apologises and never learns) but him insisting he was the wronged party.

As soon as we got in, even though we were talking about the greenhouse trashing at the time, he never looked remorseful, in fact said he wasn't sorry as I had 'stopped' him from buying plants, and he started making toast immediately. Then eating the toast, all while I was trying to talk to him.
He always starts doing something when I'm talking to him about this kind of stuff and always ignores me while he's doing the thing.

So I end up getting more annoyed.

This time, I said 'why are you ignoring me?" To which he snapped back "I'm eating" so I stopped talking.
Once he was finished eating, he left the room without speaking, went into the bathroom and started shaving, then went upstairs to have a shower, came down and got dressed etc then stayed in the bedroom- all while presumably, he knows we were in the middle of trying to sort things out (or arguing, as he probably sees it).

He's just, after 30 minutes, come back into the living room, asked me the password for the laptop then gone back into the bedroom.

He hasn't said a word about what I was trying to talk about and I just don't know where to go from here!

I have no clue whether he thinks I'm a giant nag that brings this stuff up to annoy him somehow, or what. Why can't he see or understand when I tell him, that I feel completely ignored, not respected and unloved by him?

Bit of a rant, apologies its so long but I feel like I'm going crazy here.
I need advice on what to say to make him understand that my feelings are important and we need to talk things through if we have any hope of saving the relationship, because I can't live like this anymore.

OP posts:
ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 30/03/2023 17:47

Can I have the cat?

Fedupofdiets · 30/03/2023 17:47

Poor cat.

monsteramunch · 30/03/2023 18:12

Poor kids, poor cat.

The relationship is awful.

End it.

Choconut · 30/03/2023 18:22

God there are more than enough cats in shelters as it is, why are you back street breeding more? You can't even afford to do it.

Just reading your post was incredibly hard work, you sound incredibly hard work, you both sound really immature. I feel really sorry for the children and animals caught up in the middle of all this.

InSpainTheRain · 30/03/2023 18:48

I honestly doubt you are compatible. In the nicest possible way you sound exhausting, and he sounds like he doesn't give a toss about anything other than himself. Have you thought about splitting up?

OnaBegonia · 30/03/2023 18:50

I'm exhausted reading that dress to
think what living it would be like.
You're in benefits and trying to borrow £800 to breed your cat form which I presume sell the kittens, do you declare that income to UC claim?
People like you infuriate me,pimping out your pet to fund yourself.

THisbackwithavengeance · 30/03/2023 18:55

So the taxpayer is supporting you all as you don't work and he basically lives off you and doesn't pay the bills? He's a cocklodger isn't he?

And you're breeding cats as a side hustle?

I'm sorry but he doesn't sound like a good partner but I'm struggling with your choices in life as well. If you can't afford the stud fees for your cat and your DP is too selfish and tight to stump up, then you shouldn't be breeding cats.

Yellowflowerr · 30/03/2023 19:04

Oh my god you’re the gravygate person D:

honestly between that thread and this thread this relationship is so toxic, you’re both terrible communicators and the only people I feel sorry for are your poor children and the cat. Imagine having to live in this unhealthy environment caused by two adults who should know better, Jesus

CambsAlways · 30/03/2023 19:18

Breeding cats is an expensive hobby and if you are having to bottom money from him regarding cat how on earth are you going to feed kittens when they come along, and you are on UC bloody hell, borrow money not bottom! You have children too, he’s taking down a green house etc only few weeks old all seems very immature and exhausting !

YellowAndGreenToBeSeen · 30/03/2023 19:27

katmarie · 30/03/2023 17:05

All the hinting and 'oh the cats ready, what will I do...?' nonsense would be annoying. I would have said to DH 'ok the cat is ready, you still ok to pay for it today?' and got a straight answer out of him the first time. (although I wouldn't actually because I wouldn't be putting my cat to stud, full stop.)

You don't speak to him directly, you assume what he means when he doesn't respond, and then it descends into arguments, which you don't seem to be able to let go of.

I'm not excusing him, he sounds like he is equally annoying. And the whole greenhoue thing was clearly meant to punish you and make you feel bad. But your communication to each other isn't great, and I'm not surprised you're both falling out with each other. I wouldnt want to live with either of you.

I very much agree with this. I think you seem very hard work (constantly expecting him to read your mind and annoyed that he makes toast whilst you’re talking to him. The man’s allowed to eat some toast!) and he sounds like a passive aggressive twat (punishing you with the greenhouse and silent treatment).

GlassBunion · 30/03/2023 19:37

Long term, I think you'd be better off looking at ways to get back to work and earn your own living as you're clearly struggling right now.

You cannot be a back yard breeder whilst on UC as you can't afford it and it's unethical. Stop it.

Your relationship is clearly not a happy one yet you seem to think that this man owes you a financial favour all the same.

Get your cat spayed. You're being cruel to use it purely for random financial gain. Then try and find a way out of your financial situation.
Anxiety can be helped in various ways ; your GP can help and also signpost you.

UndercoverCop · 30/03/2023 19:42

Honestly you sound like hard work. Stop back street breeding your poor cat as an income stream.
When he asked how much you didn't tell him, the conversation should have been I've had to pay to fix the car so now I can't pay the stud fee, can you lend me the money, him how much, you £500.
Then when you realise the cat is in season, you say "are you still ok if I borrow that £500" I think I'll need to take her today or tomorrow, him yes.
I was going to the market to get plants for the greenhouse you bought me from you want to come? You, yes that sounds nice.

Stop hinting, getting wound up because he doesn't read your mind, people like that are so frustrating. That's why he's binned the green house in temper (also immature)

UndercoverCop · 30/03/2023 19:43

What's gravygate?

minidancer · 30/03/2023 19:44

All of your post hurts my ears...... poor cat. Split up and get a job

UndercoverCop · 30/03/2023 19:45

Oh god I remember, where you threw a strop because your child used the gravy before you.
It's you, it's definitely you.

YellowAndGreenToBeSeen · 30/03/2023 19:49

Also agree with the ‘stop breeding your poor cat’ comments. There are thousands of strays / cats in rescue centres. Adding to that is not good practice, no matter how ‘pedigree’ your girl is.

choccytime · 30/03/2023 19:53

Am exhausted reading this yes you re crazy😬

countvoncount · 30/03/2023 19:55

That poor cat.
Argh this is wrong on so many levels.

JorisBonson · 30/03/2023 19:56

This thread was horrible to read. That poor cat.

Chops13 · 30/03/2023 20:01

You sound awful, poor cat you should spend the money having the poor thing neutered and rehomed with someone that will look after it properly and not use it as a way to make money. Disgusting! __

America12 · 30/03/2023 20:07

Elledeco · 30/03/2023 17:42

You don't work, you're breeding cats to live on. Don't say you aren't because you are.
Just get a job and grow up

Absolutely

Suzi888 · 30/03/2023 20:15

I feel it’s you.

Stop expecting your cat to support you. Get a job and neuter the cat.

ellebelli · 30/03/2023 20:21

Wowzers, there is a lot of drama in your relationship and family life it would seem(yes I read gravygate)
I too feel sorry for the children and the cat.

monsteramunch · 30/03/2023 20:32

Does anyone have a link to the gravygate thread? I'm trying to picture what could be so dramatic about gravy but this place always surprises me...!

Isthisexpected · 30/03/2023 20:33

I think you're all neurodiverse if I remember correctly and struggle to communicate about many aspects of family life. It's no one person.