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Have found out that my dp is married

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almostthesecondwife · 12/02/2008 16:45

Am a regular but have changed my name as I have friends on here that I know in rl.

I have been with my dp for 4 years. We met in a pub and got chatting and exchanged numbers and things sort of progressed from there. He's a salesman so does a lot of travelling so initially it was a long distance relationship. Then after we'd been seeing each other for about 6 months or so he moved in with me. But he still had to travel a lot so was away for 3 or 4 nights a week. It's always been like that.

He proposed to me within a few months of us moving in together but as yet we've never set a date as he's always given some reason, there's not enough money, he's very busy at work so unable to get the time off, it's been frustrating but I've generally accepted this without question.

Then a couple of weeks ago I was looking for a pen and knowing that he would have one in his briefcase I opened it, which is something I never do, and found a mobile phone in there that didn't appear to be his. And I did the inevitable and looked at it and there were texts on there from him to another woman and from her back to him, saying things like 'have really missed you babe, can't wait till you're home tonight' from her, and one from him that said 'I'll be home later', well i'd assumed it was from him. I confronted him about it, and he just said that the phone wasn't his and that it belonged to someone at work who had left it in his car and he'd brought it home.

But the next day after he went to work I rang the number of the other woman and asked if he was there, and she said no but that he would be home later that night, so I asked who she was and she said that she was his wife! .

I've confronted him about it and he's told me that the relationship has been over for years, that he's only there for the kids etc. Thing is, if that were true, why did he never tell me that he has 3 children?

I've done a lot more snooping and he's literally been leading a double life. with bank account for me and him, and bank account for him and her, different mobile phones registered to different addresses etc. I never questioned it because we both just put enough money into the joint account to cover bills and kept the rest for ourselves, so I'm guessing he was putting part of his salary into our joint account, an half into the marital account .

But we have a 15 month old daughter, and I have recently discovered that I am pregnant again. I don't know whether I can deal with the betrayal, but I don't know what to do.

Does his wife have a right to know? He's begged me not to tell her, but I'm not just the other woman am I? I'm also mother to his children.

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ScruffyTeddy · 12/02/2008 18:40

Sorry to hear what you're going through. I think you should tell his wife, like many have said, she has a right to know and if you split with him now, it turns nasty and you have to claim maintenance through csa she's sure to find out anyway.

But I do think you need to be prepared for a reaction from her which may not be to your liking. Its never like the films, sisters are doing it for themselves and all that. She could well refuse to believe you, or accuse you of knowing all along. Cover your bases before you do anything.

I know someone who went through similiar and told the wife thinking it was the best thing to do. Wife refused to believe it, he told wife the other woman was a one night stand out to get him, despite all the proof. He tootled off back to wife leaving his "other woman" and their child with nothing and no contact ever again to raise his first family.

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ShinyDysonHereICome · 12/02/2008 18:44

I know someone this happened to although she had 2 children aged 3 and 4.5. She and the wife actually became very good friends, and in fact my friend is Godmother to the baby the wife had last year with her second husband.

Their children all see eachother far more than they see their Father, it turns out he had a 3rd partner who was pregnant!

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MoreSpamThanGlam · 12/02/2008 18:45

I am AMAZED at how calm you are being. Too calm for my liking.

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onebatmother · 12/02/2008 18:55

Oh God I'm so sorry. I think the relationship (and dp) is damaged beyond repair though. Please get out while you can, and before he convinces you that this is okay/your fault/her fault.

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wannaBe · 12/02/2008 18:59

Have nothing useful to add, but I reckon this is more common than people know. Not the bigamy as such, but the whole having two women etc.

Mil has an aunt who was the other woman for about 35 years. She fell pregnant by him, brought up his child as a single parent, but they saw each other every week and continued the relationship despite him being married. Even after his wife died they never lived together or got married - they'd just lived for too long like that so they didn't see the point in changing anything.

But although his children know about her, and even do things for her etc now that their dad has died, they don't know that her dd is their half sister.

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Piffle · 12/02/2008 19:03

well if he moves back with her, your demands for child support will go to their address...
well done you for making such a brave decision.
I'd go for the you tell ehr or I will approach tbh.
Force his hand
Two families shattered by his deception, the man is a total egotesticle prick.
Unreal

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ChinaSurprise · 12/02/2008 19:46

(1) Get the money
(2) Get the hell out

You can't trust him, he's still trying to control the situation, and he will never change.
His wife may welcome you with open arms or blame it all on you. You just don't know. Think
Is his name on your DC's birth certificate btw? Could help with maintenance...long and hard before you contact her.

I have no more useful advice - just protect yourself as much as possible and good luck.

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ChinaSurprise · 12/02/2008 19:46

Sorry - that last bit was nonsensical - just meant 'think long and hard before you call her'

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llareggub · 12/02/2008 20:01

Agree.

Sort out the money situation, cut off his access to your joint accounts. Change the locks. Throw out his stuff and never engage in conversation with him again bar whatever access arrangements you decide on.

Never, ever trust him again or take his word on anything. As for his wife, I'm not sure what you should do there.

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littlegreyrabbit · 12/02/2008 20:07

Simple question - your dh is leading a double life. Would you want to know?

If yes - plan carefully, sort finances first. Tell gently and not out of spite.

If no - well, frankly I don't think anyone would honestly say no.

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yurt1 · 12/02/2008 20:10

Bloody hell. Yes tell her. Goodness knows what her reaction will be, but hopefully she'll see you've been as betrayed as her.

I met someone (of 75) in New Zealand whose father had done this. He literally had 2 families who didn't know about each other.

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kama · 12/02/2008 20:23

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chubbymummy · 12/02/2008 20:29

So sorry to hear what you're going through, my heart goes out to you!
I agree with what most people seem to be saying. You must protect yourself first and find out where you stand legally. I really think that you need to tell his wife what is going on (wouldn't you want to know if it was the other way round?) You will have to be prepared for the backlash though because she may blame you at first - I'm sure he will try and twist around somehow. At the end of the day your children have a whole other family that they have the right to know about and although it will probably be the hardest thing you ever have to do you need to end your relationship and tell his wife the truth. His wife may want nothing to do with you but on the other hand she may realise that you are both in the same boat and between you, you could really take him down!
Keep your chin up, we're all behind you!

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Blu · 12/02/2008 20:51

Hmm.

Really sorry - horrible situation.

But to be brutal (sorry ), it seems to me that he is prioritising his married relationship - spending Christmas there, begging you not to tell (which implies he doesn't really want that relationship to bust up), so whatever you do now needs to be about protecting your best interests.

I'm not sure what telling his (poor) wife will achieve, really. She may well hold him to an ultimatum that if he ever contacts you again she will chuck him out - and he might succumb to her demands. She may do her best to block any move for you to get a fair settlement towards your children.

I think I would
Seek advice via CAB and do everything you can to protect your interests - move any joint monies into your own account etc
tell him the relationship is over, but that you want to know what arrangements he envisages for having contact with your children - and how he thinks he will contribute financially.
THEN decide what to do about telling his wife.

Don't tell her out of revenge. Don't expect her to be on your side.

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Citronella · 12/02/2008 21:13

So sorry you are going through this. What a shock!! But what people have said on here is right, he has had plenty of time to work all this deception out, plotting, planning he really cannot claim any other excuse than having his cake and eating it. And what a lot of effort to keep it all up for so long!
I agree with others that you should tell his wife (his time is up) but Blu speaks sense plan it carefully.

Really sorry and angry for you.

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ChinaSurprise · 13/02/2008 13:41

Agree with blu - sort yourself out before you tell her. V good advice.

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TigerFeet · 13/02/2008 13:56

What an utter arsewipe. I'm so sorry, no-one should have to go through this.

You have 5 days until he is back from the States. Go to the CAB and get a free half hour with a family lawyer.

I think the wife needs to be told, especially as there are children involved on both sides. If it were my husband doing this I would want to know. So I could rip his knackers off and feed them to the dog. Blu is right, she won't thank you for it, but I think she ought to know.

Perhaps you could print this thread and send it? Not as the initial breaker, but when she has had time to digest the news. The fact that you are completely innocent in all this shines through.

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catsmother · 13/02/2008 14:03

So, so sorry ..... I can't begin to imagine how you feel right now.

Agree that you should tell his wife. She - and her children - are innocent in all this too but she has a right to know ..... this isn't about you seeking revenge, but about ensuring that a fellow innocent is in full possession of the facts. This isn't a one-night stand for which the "ignorance is bliss" argument might be used (by some) but something on a huge scale and she has a right to know about her children's half-siblings for a start.

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Blu · 13/02/2008 14:06

Also - if you tell his wife now, he has nothing to lose.
Better get him to think about sorting out support for yours and his children while you still have some power over him.

Sorry to be so cynical - and you and his wife are both victims in this. But rushing to tell her on the pretext that it is the 'right' thing to do is possibly more about revenge than you prioritising 'right' over practicalities. On;y tell her now if you are prepared for the children to never see or hear from him again bar a court case over money.

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Blu · 13/02/2008 14:09

x-posted with Catsmother.

I completely agree that it is right that the wife should know, but it isn't actually the OP's responsibility to tell her, first and foremost.

Perhaps i'm being completley unrealistic, and much too cynical.

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Cam · 13/02/2008 14:12

I wouldn't even be thinking about the wife at this stage

I would be sorting myself and my dc out as an absolute priority whilst wotking out how to get rid of him

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donnie · 13/02/2008 14:17

he is a total wanker and spinelessliar. Who would want to stay with someone like him? I feel sorry for all the children though.

If I was you and had the cash I would get myself over to the states and throw a little surprise party all of my own.

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Julezboo · 13/02/2008 14:26

omg how awful for you!

I would deffinately tell his wife, or he could easily just go and set up home with someone else.

How sad for all the kids involved

Does he know your expecting again?

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spokette · 13/02/2008 14:37

I am and and on your behalf. What a nightmare situation.

First of all, I would change the locks on doors of the house, move the money from the joint account into mine, start proceedings to make sure he pays for the upkeep of his children and then think about how to approach his wife - she deserves to know that she is married to a lying, cheating, duplicitous, amoral rat.

As for conference in USA for 5 days - nope- it is half term and he is spending it with his family. Sorry.

You have got to take care of yourself as well your DC now and please do not believe another word that spews forth from his mendacious mouth.

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Baffy · 13/02/2008 17:11

Am horrified reading this. My heart goes out to you.

Not much to add to the great advice so far, protecting yourself and your dc is the priority (financially and emotionally).

FWIW, as the wife of someone who led a double life for 18 months, please do tell his wife. I didn't want to know what I found out, but I needed to know. IYSWIM. Then I could make an informed decision about whether I wanted that man in my life or not.

Of course it will break her heart. And at first she may blame you. But ultimately the truth will out. And you are most definitely not responsible for this.
If you leave it to him to tell her, I can 100% guarantee she will not hear the truth.

Good luck

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