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Do I move on?

39 replies

LadyH846 · 23/03/2023 05:39

I met a man through a mutual hobby. I’d known him for a couple of years and several months ago we got closer.

We saw each other as friends for several months. It was a very close friendship. We saw each other every weekend, often staying up all night or until the wee hours on a Saturday night talking. We could talk and laugh for hours and we both agreed that being in one another’s company was so enjoyable. I’d never found that with a man before to this extent. He was so kind, caring and attentive, looking out for me in a variety of ways.

I was sure our relationship was headed somewhere romantic just because our relationship was so emotionally intimate. He also made it clear he found me very attractive. There was quite a lot of flirting. He’s 15 or so years older than me and in his 50s. At one point I told him I wanted him to kiss me but nothing happened. He told me he was into me but indicated there was some reason why he wasn’t going to act on it right now, but didn’t say why.

We continued to see one another.

In the end, a physical relationship started. He told me he really liked me. And I woke up one day realising I was in love with him in a way I hadn’t been in decades. I was shocked and not entirely sure I even wanted to be with someone so much older. The sex was amazing and we couldn't get enough of each other.

He then revealed to me that he had actually been in a 2 year long-distance relationship with someone else for most of the time we’d been seeing one another. He had lied and even told me he was single months prior. They had broken up about 10 days before our physical relationship began. (Nothing physical actually happened between us until after they broke up, but I do think regardless some of our behaviour was inappropriate looking back. If I'd known about her, I would have adjusted my behaviour for sure.)

He said the relationship with his ex wasn’t a good or very close one. A friend of his described it as “no great romance” and very casual. (They broke up because she wanted him to move to her city and he refused.) She was in love with him but he didn't return her feelings to the same extent. He defended his lie by saying that he "felt" he was single when he told me that and that the relationship was not a good one. He was struggling a lot around the time we met. He said he didn’t want to stop seeing me because our relationship made things in his life feel more bearable.

He also told me that he had a crush for a few years on someone he couldn’t have and he’d never told her, and that he considered himself to be in love with this woman. I know for a fact that this woman doesn’t like him back. He said he needs to tell her how he feels so he can finally move on.

He wanted to keep seeing me, but by this point I had found that I was doing most of the pursuing and initiating, which I wasn’t happy with. I also wasn’t happy I’d been lied to or that he was “in love” with someone else.

I told him I think it’s not healthy for him to continue something with me while being so fresh out of the relationship with someone else and I felt he needed some space because he’s not meeting me halfway like a normal relationship. Plus because of what he told me about the woman he's "in love" with. And then there was the fact he lied to me.

He said he was still reeling because of the end of his relationship and that’s why he hadn't been meeting me halfway.

I told him that he needs space and if he resolves certain situations and is available in the future maybe we could have something. It sounds like he's fearful I'll meet someone else in the meantime.

I stopped contacting him. It’s been almost 2 weeks and it’s incredibly hard.

But now I am feeling this is not a good idea to envision the idea that there could be something between us in the future, and I need to move on. I keep thinking about the lying and whether I could forgive that moving forwards.

I'm thinking that if he really liked me, he would have got over the end of the relationship (which sounds like it was very casual and on its way out anyway when we met) quickly and over his ridiculous crush on someone who’s not into him, and would be showing up at my door.

We will likely see each other in future at the social events connected to our hobby. I asked him to not go to the one I usually go to for a couple of months, to give me some space.

He agreed.

I am still in love with him but I'm not sure all of this is a good basis for a future relationship.

Can someone give me a reality check please?

OP posts:
ilikeyarn · 24/03/2023 06:03

LadyH846 · 24/03/2023 04:09

I blocked him

It was hard to do, but look ahead now to brighter days.

QueenBee1234 · 24/03/2023 06:19

He should not be more than five years older than you.
Eh? Do bore off!
This guy is an absolute waste of OP'S time because of his personality and ishoos.....not because of his age!

LadyH846 · 24/03/2023 06:38

To be honest, the age gap bothered me, too. I'd never seek out a 50 something guy on a dating app as a woman in my 30s.

OP posts:
LadyH846 · 24/03/2023 06:42

I may want to have children in the future and he said there's no way he'd consider having kids at his age. So, it was just not a good match, aside from the lying and cheating 🙄

OP posts:
TaunterOfWomenInGeneralSaysSayonarastu · 24/03/2023 08:55

ilikeyarn · 24/03/2023 06:01

All relationships have to be ordered properly. Even your relationship to me. You don't like what I said. But there's no need to call me the relationship police. It's better for you to come up with a rebuttal. For instance, you could say, "But you can just be friends with a guy who is in a relationship with another woman." Okay. Then, I'd say, "Even your friendship with her boyfriend would bother the first woman." Personally, I think it's better not to bother other women. Leave their boyfriends alone. except for short conversations at the water cooler at work. But this poster didn't even have that choice because the guy lied to her. Hence, the consistent advice from all the responders. Hence the need for relationships to be properly ordered.

OK, so now you're the thread police, instructing PP on how you reckon they are allowed to post ...

motherofkevinnotperry · 24/03/2023 11:27

You're definitely better clear of this one. He's got baggage and hang ons that he needs to get rid of.

Doesn't really matter when your physical relationship started it's more to do with his lies and the way he seemed to be not making you his first option.

People who don't make you one of their top priorities aren't in a relationship for the right reasons and are disrespecting you. You are worth more than one of his options.

ilikeyarn · 25/03/2023 21:44

TaunterOfWomenInGeneralSaysSayonarastu · 24/03/2023 08:55

OK, so now you're the thread police, instructing PP on how you reckon they are allowed to post ...

Actually, Taunter, you agree with me. You mentioned the man in question was "disrespectful, entitled, disregarded women's feelings, deceitful etc." So you have a standard for relationships, which is a good one. Adhering to a standard is the same as being a relationship cop. If I followed your standard, I would indeed avoid an "arsehole." It's good to police relationships, either for yourself or for others. Nothing wrong with objective standards.

Think of the OP as requiring a slight tune-up in her beliefs. If she believes she's worthy of a better man, has a firm goal to settle for nothing less than marriage, AND clarifies her position that a man must be firmly open to the possibility of children, she will succeed. It only takes a very short time to meet the right man if you align with the truth first.

I wish the OP every possible strength and clarification of thought in the next year.
Please dm me if you need support.

LadyH846 · 26/03/2023 07:29

Thank you.

Just an update that I spoke to a good mutual friend yesterday who didn't know about what happened between me and this guy (for clarity I'm going to call him "Twatface".)

This mutual friend is close to his ex (I'm going to call her "Harriet"), the one he was in a long distance relationship with.

Anyway, mutual friend said that the relationship between the 2 of them is definitely over. Harriet dumped him because of his hot and cold treatment of her.

Mutual friend also said he thinks Twatface is telling another lie because he told me his LTR lasted 2 years. Mutual friend says Harriet is saying it lasted 5 months or so.

If that's the case, it's the same length our relationship lasted.

Twatface agreed with me he needed space to "heal" from his LTR with Harriet, when in fact it lasted just 5 months, they hardly saw each other, (and he admits he wasn't really into her anyway and definitely didn't love her) and he was cheating on her with me the whole time.

What an absolute mindfuck.

Just another ploy to keep me at arm's length.

I don't know if he had just already decided that he wanted to get rid of me and here was his opportunity when I offered him "space" to "heal".

I suppose it's a waste of brain power trying to work out what he was thinking.

OP posts:
LadyH846 · 26/03/2023 07:32

I blocked him on everything (I thought) and told him so, but he found another way to contact me and sent me a self-pitying message asking which social events he's allowed to go to (the ones connected with our hobby.)

And also moaning about how I'm beating him up with words and it wasn't fair to say a bunch of things to him and then block him without letting him respond. He says I'm making a bunch of assumptions about what he feels about me.

I blocked him on that one, too.

Still feeling sad and disappointed, but every day that passes it gets a bit better.

OP posts:
pictoosh · 26/03/2023 07:42

Yes, once you wipe away the Vaseline on the lens you’re left with a feckless cheat who’s not on speaking terms with the truth. He sounds really manipulative. What’s with the mysterious yearning for some other woman? Are you to compete? Be grateful he chose you? Fuck off man.

LadyH846 · 26/03/2023 07:48

He's never had a marriage or a long-term serious relationship before. He's in his mid 50s. It's now very clear why that is.

OP posts:
Antiquiteas · 26/03/2023 08:13

This man in his 50s is a fucking mess. End it, don’t wind up dancing around trying to get you to pick him.

Antiquiteas · 26/03/2023 08:14

Trying to get him to pick you*

Leopardlives · 26/03/2023 09:39

Oh god OP, you can do better. What a horrid man, using emotional fluency to reel you in.

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