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Revelations on how you were a pawn in your parents break up - 30 years on.

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LittleRebelGirl · 15/03/2023 00:04

I don't even know where to start with this thread. I just know I need to get this stuff out somewhere. Here seems as good as any.
I'm 38 years old. My parents divorced when I was 9. Their relationship was not a happy one. Littered with my dads infidelity, fighting and arguing all the time.
My mum left for the OM after her own affair was exposed. This then lead to a cascade of what I can only describe as shit. My parents behaved abominably towards each other. As the only child I was put in the middle of their battles continously. For years I refused to see my dad, afraid my mother would reject me. It was dragged through family court but I still refused to go, hanging on to door frames screaming. I wanted my mothers love. I needed to not be rejected. If I loved him too, then surely she would hate me? She told me aged 9/10/11 of all their marital issues, the affairs, his supposed porn use, etc. Of course she never told me not to see him. But that is what she wanted, and what she set out to do.
My dad set about destroying my mothers life in revenge. Of course that destroyed my life too. He made it impossible for my mum to stay at her work (teacher) by sleeping with another teacher and having all her personal life spread around the school. I also attended this school. In year 5 I had to move away. We moved towns, moved schools. Since then I have never really recovered. As a child I was well liked, popular. My parents would have described me as a charming child. People had time for me, listened to what I had to say and seemed to enjoy my company. Adults and children. I was bright, academic, and everyone thought I'd go on to great things.
When I moved schools I was unable to make any friends. No one would let me in to their circle. Friendship groups were already established. This continued in high school as I went to the same high school as they all did. I never connected with anyone else again. I tried. I wasn't wanted. Wasn't liked. Bullied through high school. I have never been able to make friends as an adult. Acquaintances at best.
My parents continued to wage their war on each other all through my high school years. Dad fucked off abroad to escape the CSA. At some point I started seeing him a little - maybe every 6 weeks or so. He'd take me out for the day. But that was because my mum wanted him to send money so dangled me as the carrot. So she stopped telling me the bad stuff to get me to want to see him. Telling me all the things I could ask him to buy me. So of course I did. She knew it was the only way he would pay - he was out of the CSA jurisdiction. I was a pay per view essentially.
By 16 I was on a self destruct path. At this point my parents seemed to stop "caring" all together. I met someone who seemed to love me. The first real love I'd felt since I was little. So I got pregnant - of course. My mum and dad helped me a little . But only to enable me to move out. In to a council house. From a middle class background to council estate life as a teenage mum. The first day I moved in - I stared outside from my bedroom window as the police had taped up the road. There had been a murder in the flats over the road. I knew then I needed to get away from there.
Determined to give my child a better life I did manage to claw my way out of poverty. I went to university when he was 2 and by the time he was 6 I had bought my first house.
My parents in all these years continue to slag each other off at every single opportunity. My OH comments how my parents can not have a conversation with me without somehow relating it to some terrible misdemeanor that the other parent committed. Every single conversation. For 30 years. They don't get a reaction from me. I say very little. They don't care. They carry on even though they can see my discomfort.
They don't show much interest in me. Or my children. My mum - she sees me every 3 months or so. My dad, twice a year max. Often just once at new year for a couple of days. Neither ring me unless they want something - which is rare. All conversation is from me. I left it once with my mum. It took her 4 months to text me. They just hold so little interest - especially my dad.
My nan (dad's mum) commented recently how she didn't understand how my parents fought so hard over me all those years ago, yet now can't be bothered. Everyone else sees this - all the wider family know my parents don't really bother with me.
I've been through some really traumatic times over the years and they haven't been there in any way at all. One of the worst was when my ex walked out when I was pregnant with my 3rd child. I was absolute rock bottom. I had no one. No help from anywhere at all. My mum refused to help when I was having the baby. She wouldn't be with me or stay with my other children. She went on holiday instead and I had to pay strangers to look after the children. I had to give birth without support. My dad also went on holiday.
My mum has dedicated her life to educating young children. Yet I don't think she ever had a maternal bone in her body. She told me very recently that she barely saw me term time but she tried to make up for it in the holidays - but it wasn't enough. That she cared about me, but like a step parent would! That really fucking hurt.
There is so much more that I could say, but my chest hurts just writing this. I feel like a useless piece of worthless shit. Absolutely unlovable. My own parents can't possibly love me. I can't even establish friendships. I also feel self indulgent just writing this out as others have far far worse problems. So, yeah.

OP posts:
Ofcourseshecan · 15/03/2023 00:26

OP, this is heartbreaking. You are not worthless. You should be proud of the amazing achievements you have made in spite of your horrific upbringing. But no wonder you are scarred. I wish you had the close and loyal friends you deserve.

I don’t know the answer, but I would write off your toxic parents and focus on healing yourself with help from a therapist. Maybe build up your relationships with the relatives who do love you (eg grandmother). I hope you can find good friends and happiness. XX

PerkingFaintly · 15/03/2023 00:30

I hear you.Flowers

Your parents sound like self-absorbed narcissists, in capable of love.

BTW, it's not uncommon for narcissists to enjoy roles like teacher, as it puts them in centre-stage in front of a captive audience and automatically puts them in authority. So it feeds a lot of their desires.

You've done amazingly to build a life for yourself and your children away from them.

OrderOfTheKookaburra · 15/03/2023 00:58

The battles they had with you as a pawn, they were never about you. They were ALL about their fucked up relationship with each other and their need to 'win' at any expense.

They didn't fight because of their love for you, they fought because of their hatred for each other and the joy their malicious behaviour gave them.

ALL of that is on them. Not you. They have ALWAYS been lacking as human beings, and especially lacking as parents.

You, on the other hand, sound absolutely amazing. And while I wouldn't wish a teenage pregnancy in anyone, the fact that your pregnancy got you away from them was an absolute blessing, and it finally gave you the drive to do better than they did.

Just think about it, you as a 16 year old managed to get your shit together and claw your way out from where you were, but those 2 fucked up egg and sperm donors (they were NEVER parents!) were never able to do that.

You are amazing, they belong under a rock somewhere. Flowers

CrotchetyQuaver · 15/03/2023 01:02

That's awful. You'll be parenting the way I did - thinking what your mother would have done and going the opposite. I too had very few friends as a youngster, with hindsight I think it was because she fell out with everybody so many mothers didn't view me favourably because of her.
It sounds like you have achieved a huge amount in spite of your useless parents, I'd be tempted to drop them completely. I'm older (50's) and I have learnt that family takes many forms and isn't necessarily made up of blood relations, there are many many people out there with shit families behind them who will understand and support you as they've been through similar themselves. It's just a case of finding them.

MissMarplesNiece · 15/03/2023 01:07

OP, you wrote "For years I refused to see my dad, afraid my mother would reject me." This happened to me too. If ever I said anything about my dad, my DM's words would be along the lines of "go to him then, see if he wants you, don't bother to come back". It fucked my life up & my siblings lives too. It still hurts me to think about it now - 50 years on.

Soulstirring · 15/03/2023 01:07

Gosh your childhood sounds familiar only I was younger when they divorced. Thankfully for me my parents grew out of it when I was 12/13 but I have the internal scars and like you sought replacement love in the wrong places. I’m sorry OP, as PPs have said it wasn’t about you and you’re amazing for being you and building your own future.

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