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piz111 · 14/03/2023 15:36

Hi, so im a guy, i dont wan to hide that i just really need your help, to help understand what i'm going through, i expect you all to tarnish me and probably crucify me but i have a few questions i feel only a women can answer. Im gonna make this post a little long so apologies, but it is important that i provide context.

So to summarise ive been with my wife for 13 years, Married for 10, i Love her when i met her, still love her today, she was a little more conservative than me, actually we are from an asian background , she was still not allowed out as much etc, my family were always very liberal so we always did what we want, she was a virgin and stayed that way until marriage even though i wanted more. I was obese may i add but we were the same age and i made her laugh i thought i had hit the jack pot.

At the beginning she wasn't so cold, we genuinely fell in love, i feel i showed her many amazing things as she did me, we travelled the world and supported each other, i realised after the first few years that i needed more sexually/ intimately, my wife wasn't willing to do more, even hugging or spooning was mostly out of the question, we had kids, we went through a lot of issues with them and we are so positive that they flourished, we were there for each other, but still i needed more from her.

eg i would go down on her, she would orgasm and then poush me a way, with no thought for me, her attempts at satisfying me were not great and it just seemed she didn't care, at the same time all her friends would end up abused or divorced and they would require more from her, she would go out more and more, making me feel really lonely, i alsoway thought of myself as a cool successful and interesting person but this loneliness was making me depressed, i did some stupid things and met some ladies that i paid for, i know you will all kill me but the context is important for me to get clear view of what i need to do going forward, then one day i would be abroad and i would meet a very pretty foreign lady, regretfully we had sex, it was amazing sex the kind that was very rare with my wife as her constant inhibitions would just hold her back, she didn't have those inhibitions when she was out with the girls till 6 am etc. So i kept in touch with the lady and throughout lockdown would message her, she made me feel alive and free, she took interest in me, it felt good. It was wrong i was lonely it filled a gap i only ever saw her once.

She caught me.. Printed all my messages out.. I came clean, i left the house, respectively fro 1 month, changed my diet, joined the gym, banned myself from any other ladies, im not saying im good what i did was wrong so wrong but i tried as hard as i could, did counciulling all i could, lost 20 kg in the end, was happy in myself for the first time.

I thought we had cleared it, we went on a few trips away, things were getting good, then 9 months later we are in a dif country for a friends wedding and my wife was sleeping, her friend called on ft and i spoke to her on her phone innocently but drunk i went in to her insta and i saw some dirtty messages, stuff that she would never say to me, it broke me straight away, i woke her and confronted her, she promised me it was a lie even got her friend involved to say thy were joking, this guy had come up a lot previously they always referred to him as a "loser." SO i believed her, and thought we had managed to finally get to the optimum place but i had knot in my stomach still.,

4 months later she is away and i actually stumbled up on her old phone, i stupidly turned it on and she was still on insta, guess what, it was all plain to see, full on affair, " I told you i loved you first" etc , car meets, hotel meets the lot, the stuff i would dream off from her, she even said to him " you did things to me that i have never felt before and i will never forget that. :( the stuff that would of always kept me with her, its not what she did, its the lie and the fact she went back after i once had already asked her, its nearly a year on now and il feel still lost, i forgave her i do feel insecure i do feel unattractive.

she tells me it was all mistake, he got under her skin as she was vulnerable, it was exciting, i get it. Im still the idiot who lets her go out as a believe in free will, i still put her above me, i cant believe still that she did this , she still doesn't comunicate and tell me where she is sometimes,( I asked after one am to tellme where she goes as i wake up often and get anxiety, i think its only fair, is htis unreasonable? she tells me she is often drunk and will never be able to do that :( )i do believe her but where does respect start, since my indiscretions i have paid for her surgeries, holidays , clothes, handbags, random flowers, new car ,lingerie, jewellery everything i could dream of and all i want is her love, is it still wrong she thinks its ok to be out super late and not tell me where she is ? What can i do to make her see me? I will always love her and my kids and truthfully i dont want to leave my home, im so lost how do i approach this ? when i say going out i mean partying till after 5 am once a week, 1/2 am once a week and possibly one or 2 dinners thrown in (all with friends) , we dont sit down for dinners, she never comes up with a plan, i feel im worth it, does she not see shes losing me! Am i just over the top?

OP posts:
Aquamarine1029 · 14/03/2023 15:40

You really need to get a grip, op. Your marriage is over, just accept it. Try to be as amicable as possible and divorce. You both need to move on with your lives.

alwaysawaster · 14/03/2023 15:42

She wasn't enough for you in the beginning.

Now you aren't enough for her.

Do the kids a favour and end it amicably.

Pinkbonbon · 14/03/2023 15:50

You aren't compatible. You both cheated because you don't get what you need from one another. Not that that excuses it of course.

Time to call it a day. Infact, it probably was a long time ago.

You cannot buy love. Or affection even, it seems.
It sounds like you were better single too (getting healthy ect...).

Let it go. It isn't working and life is too short.

piz111 · 14/03/2023 15:53

Thank you

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TaunterOfWomenInGeneralSaysSayonarastu · 14/03/2023 16:10

but i have a few questions i feel only a women can answer
Oh piss off you sexist idiot.
"Just came here to meekly Ask The Laydeez" indeed.
The TMI is a bit of a giveaway - you're not after advice, you're getting off on imagining all the women reading about your sex life.

Im still the idiot who lets her go out as a believe in free will, i still put her above me, i cant believe still that she did this
You allowed your wife to go out?
What a prince amongst men you are.
You can't believe she's been unfaithful to you, but you had no problem at all with your own serial adultery. Including spending family money on buying sex.

Most marriages go through a period of sexual drought post-kids. Instead of giving your wife space, support & understanding, you stopped chatting her up & went & found multiple sexual partners elsewhere.
Even when you were caught, it was all about YOU:

She caught me.. Printed all my messages out.. I came clean, i left the house, respectively fro 1 month, changed my diet, joined the gym, banned myself from any other ladies, im not saying im good what i did was wrong so wrong but i tried as hard as i could, did counciulling all i could, lost 20 kg in the end, was happy in myself for the first time.
Bully for you - happy again, after spending all that time on yourself in counselling & the gym.
What did you do for the wife you betrayed?
What counselling has she had? What personal time to spend on herself? I imagine you just left her to look after the kids while you indulged yourself in your self-improvement routine.

She probably fell out of love with you - men who exploit women by paying them for sex are desperately unattractive to most of us.

Do her a favour & give her a great divorce settlement, then leave her alone.
It's the least you can do.

Here's a final thought - do you know how many sex workers are coerced/trafficked?
Bet you don't. Bet you've never even considered it. You are vile.

TaunterOfWomenInGeneralSaysSayonarastu · 14/03/2023 16:13

i feel im worth it, does she not see shes losing me!

😂😂😂
Why would she want to keep you?
Shall we tell you the value of a man who cheat on his wife by paying women to have sex with him?

You're worth fuck-all but child maintenance payments.
make sure you overpay - you really, really, owe your I hope soon-to-be-ex-wife.

NomadicSpirit · 14/03/2023 16:28

OP, you cheated multiple times (those ones you paid for count) and you're now upset that your wife is cheating on you and going out partying?

As others have said, its time to end it. She doesn't like you and you should maybe look back over your post for clues as to why that could be, Things like "I needed more from her", "I feel I'm worth it", " I let her go out" and the fact you think that 1 month of going to the gym and "banning yourself from other women" somehow makes it all right suggest that you think its all about you. It's not. Its about both of you, but you're come across as thinking you're hard done by.

You screwed around and now she's doing the same and I can't say I blame her. You should both end it as its not a marriage anymore.

Ghostbuster2639 · 14/03/2023 16:37

I feel im worth it, does she not see shes losing me!

How do you realistically think you compare to other men after doing what you did?

Justforlaffs · 14/03/2023 16:48

I don’t really think you’re in a position to be upset about flirty texts or whatever happened (it’s unclear?) between your wife and another man when you have been off getting your jollies elsewhere and paying prostitutes for sex for years (and please make a note of this: calling them “ladies” does not make it sound more forgivable - they are prostitutes who sell their bodies to any man for money - they honestly don’t give a shit about you)

Back in the beginning when your wife wouldn’t be intimate with you was the time to have a discussion about your (lack of a) sex live with her and tell her how you were feeling.

Its too late now, the damage is done - she knows you’ve shagged around behind her back - spending money that should have been for your family on paying for sex and also putting her at risk of STI’s. I’d have packed your bags and chucked you out there and then. I’m not sure why she hasn’t - you say you are both Asian - is her decision to stay with you based around stigma from her family/community?

It all sounds extremely toxic and messed up. End it, set her free.

Nap1983 · 14/03/2023 16:57

This has got to be fake… surely

Tulip2478 · 14/03/2023 17:20

OP why do you feel you are worth it when you repeatedly cheated on her, knocking her self-esteem and her self worth? Because you bought her pretty jewellery? Now the tables have turned you're not so happy now are you?

Onemyownhere · 14/03/2023 17:28

OP the trust has already gone the day u cheated and so she seeked attention elsewhere i understand u are hurt, but it sound's like their was no trust and communication in the first place... Be there for the children and just let her go.. Its not worth the stress from both sides... How would u ever be able to trust each other when u both cheated regardless whether she texted and not physically cheated it was still flirting and clearly trying to make plans with another dude... I repeat just let her go

username1722 · 15/03/2023 22:16

You cheated on her. Then she cheated on you. It's over. No amount of money or begging and pleading is going to change that. Do your kids a favour and get out of this marriage.

Rogue1001MNer · 15/03/2023 22:35

Poor children

Gigglemous · 16/03/2023 02:32

You've both cheated. You're both in the wrong here.
If this isn't the most glaring example of incompatibility, I don't know what is.
Split and focus on co patenting amicably.

BritInAus · 16/03/2023 03:24

You cheated on your wife.
Then she cheated on you.
Unsure what all the detail about gym and weight loss has to do with anything.

You clearly don't love or respect each other. End it amicably and fairly, keep the kids at the forefront of all decisions and move on, separately.

PS no man should decide his wife/partner is 'allowed' out or not. It's 2023!!!!

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