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Is he ready to move on?

11 replies

Taffydog · 08/03/2023 23:48

I’ve been with my partner for around four years - it’s been on and off during that time. When we met it was just meant to be a fling as neither were ready for a relationship, I’d just ended an 18 year marriage and his partner of three years had moved out. However we kept getting drawn back together and earlier this year we got engaged. His wife died 11 years ago, they had children together (now adult) and I would say our ways of grieving are very different so this is why I don’t know whether I’m being unreasonable. I don’t want him to pretend she never existed and understand he still gets sad and will always grieve for her and want to keep some momentos etc. However there are a lot of things that make me feel he is not ready to move on
-He still has a wardrobe of her clothes and boxes of her possessions around the house. He has said he wants to go through them and let go of some of the things. I have suggested he does this with their children, get a memory box etc. But he’s made no effort to start doing this.
-large wedding photo on the wall and lots of photos around the house. I don’t have a problem with photos but when the cleaner dusted his large collection of photos on the sideboard he told her to ensure the ones with his wife always went to the front. He told me when dating he used to take the wedding photo down but always put it back up when the dates left. There are a couple of photos with me too
-is going to be buried with his wife. This I can live with as another significant family member is also buried there.
-the trigger for his past relationship breaking down was as she booked them and all their kids a holiday somewhere that was special to him and his wife and he didn’t want to go and found it extremely difficult emotionally. He has since visited the same place on a day trip with me
-used to ‘write off’ a certain month every year as withdrawal into himself during this month with anniversary’s etc was how he coped with the rest of the year. I pointed out this was not a good coping skill and it wasn’t just a month a year he shut off but the weeks leading up to it etc. he has worked on this and it’s a lot better.

The thing that has really bothered me though is that he’s written valentines cards to her. Last year I told him how I struggled with this and he turned round and said it had been 10 years and he wanted to stop especially as it upset me. You’ve guessed it - did it again this year, not long after we’d got engaged. He can’t explain why he did but quite clearly feels I’m overacting and it’s obvious he still wants to do it. I said I don’t want to marry someone who is buying valentines cards for someone else. It seems so petty - I’m not even that bothered about Valentine’s Day as it’s so commercial. However it’s a very important day to him. I feel so strongly about this!! Has anyone been in a similar position?

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misssunshine4040 · 08/03/2023 23:53

Whether he is ready to move on or not doesn't really matter. How YOU feel is what counts.
Does this relationship makes you feel second best? Fill you with doubts? Fulfil you?
You deserve better I think. Leave him to his own ways and find a relationship where you are the main focus, not the shadow all the time.
I think you are so used to making allowances for him that you probably can't see how much its affecting you

P1ckledonionz · 09/03/2023 01:29

@Taffydog you deserve better then this.

No one should be engaged under these circumstances!

snitzelvoncrumb · 09/03/2023 01:37

It doesn’t sound like he is ready. You aren’t unreasonable feeling the way you do. It’s ok to end the relationship if you want to. This could go on forever.

Taffydog · 09/03/2023 02:11

misssunshine4040 · 08/03/2023 23:53

Whether he is ready to move on or not doesn't really matter. How YOU feel is what counts.
Does this relationship makes you feel second best? Fill you with doubts? Fulfil you?
You deserve better I think. Leave him to his own ways and find a relationship where you are the main focus, not the shadow all the time.
I think you are so used to making allowances for him that you probably can't see how much its affecting you

I think you’re right I feel like I’m constantly making allowances- there are other issues too but I felt like he was genuinely trying to make an effort to change. It just feels like he said what he needed to get me to agree to get married and nothing has really changed 😟

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Taffydog · 09/03/2023 02:11

P1ckledonionz · 09/03/2023 01:29

@Taffydog you deserve better then this.

No one should be engaged under these circumstances!

Thank you I feel I do!

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Taffydog · 09/03/2023 02:14

snitzelvoncrumb · 09/03/2023 01:37

It doesn’t sound like he is ready. You aren’t unreasonable feeling the way you do. It’s ok to end the relationship if you want to. This could go on forever.

Exactly my worry: it’s clear he doesn’t think he’s unreasonable in doing what he is but will stop for me (though he said that last year!) but I want him to stop because he realises buying a valentines card for someone who’s been gone for 11 years when he’s engaged to someone else is at the very least an odd thing to do.

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Monty27 · 09/03/2023 02:55

He's not ready OP. Leave him to grieve. Literally, leave him. You'll never be happy with a grieving man.

Buildingthefuture · 09/03/2023 04:36

I don’t think the valentines card would bother me..I’m fact, I think it’s quite a nice thing for him to do. But the stuff around the house and all the photos? Yes, that would be a bit much. I have one friend who started dating a widower less than a year after his wife died (long marriage) and it was like the wife had never existed, she was never mentioned and all traces of her were removed. She then discovered all the places he suggested they went were places he went with his wife! He turned out to be an angry control freak though. Another friend met a man OLD whose wife had died 8 years ago, had a few nice dates, but then he invited her to his house. It was apparently a shrine to the wife and when he served dinner, he went barmy when she accidentally sat in his wife’s seat at the table. All that said, this obviously isn’t working for you op. You are clearly feeling uncomfortable and having doubts, so step away. You deserve to be and feel like, a priority.

BatshitCrazyWoman · 09/03/2023 17:36

Did he buy you a valentine's card, OP? Do you stay at his house with the photos looking down on you/are there any in the bedroom?

You are not wrong to feel the way you do, and I agree with PPs that he isn't 'ready'. It is hard though to end things when you have invested 4 years in a relationship.

Taffydog · 09/03/2023 17:51

No I don’t stay at the house - he usually stays here. He has a lovely house (though needs tlc as it’s been neglected) but I don’t feel comfortable there. It took him three years for him to accept I’ll never live there and agree we buy something together. There are other issues but this is the current one and just wanted to get some other opinions without adding all the other issues to the mix!

Thank you everyone it’s help clarify things for me

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Zanatdy · 09/03/2023 18:00

Have to agree it’s pretty clear he’s not ready to date. Will he ever be? It’s not like you’re asking him to stop remembering her but I think when he’s engaged to someome else I think it’s reasonable to ask to limit the photos. I remember watching that programme Rio Ferdinand did after he lost his first wife. His new wife asked if they could dedicate a room for the photos / place for the kids to remember their mum as she felt it was time to take them down from all over the house as it made her feel a bit uncomfortable now she lived there. I guess as you don’t live there slightly different. The Valentine card maybe he needs to restrict to her graveside or write a note on his phone. I do that sometimes when I want to get my thoughts out but not actually text a particular person

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