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doubting myself, cheating OCD?

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uipas · 26/02/2023 09:00

I am struggling with something that I think is textbook OCD, but I haven’t been diagnosed yet, so please let me know what’s your take on this. I have a boyfriend whom I love very much. There was a party I was on with friends a few months ago, he couldn’t attend, at the end of the night it was just me and one guy friend whom I have an old history with (ancient, we both see each other as just friends now) as we got to talking. I remember most of the night, but I have been struggling with what I would call grayouts very often - e.g. I will remember having a conversation but not what it was about exactly. I tend to be excessively stressed out over doing something stupid when drunk and usually double check with friends whether I did and forgot but that actually never happened. I never actually forgot anything important like kissing someone while I was still single and more adventurous. The fear hit
different this time though as not remembering something could potentially involve doing something harmful to my partner whom I deeply love (for example drunk kissing the guy). Obviously the friend was aware I am in a happy relationship and I had no intention of kissing him or anyone else for that matter, there was no flirting etc, but WHAT IF I did and can’t remember? I decided I will just quit drinking completely as it does me no good and is the main reason why I am feeling so wracked with guilt over something I probably never even did. The day after the party, I didn’t have any recollections of doing something wrong but still asked that friend just to be sure - (same as I always come back to check if the door is locked) if I’ve done anything stupid as I was just feeling a bit guilty for getting drunk to that point - and he said ‚no, you’re good’.
I then got it off my head and for whatever reason it came back recently, months after. THE WHAT IFs are literally killing me right now. I would (actually I am starting to already) hate myself so much if I did something so awful to the person I love and respect so much. There are times while I think this is absurd - I would remember SOME FLASHBACK at least and then why would the friend lie to me? But they are mixed with anxiety attacs and I feel like I am helpless. Have anyone else struggled with something like that as well?

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SamTG · 26/02/2023 09:51

Oh I hope you’re ok, I really feel for you.

My brother has this exact thing, I’d never heard of it before. Yes he has been diagnosed with it as in OCD thing and manages it by therapy and by talking to me when he’s worried. It goes up and down. There are some good self help things online too.

His partner has become more sympathetic to it as time has gone on which has helped.
I think at first she thought he must’ve done something wrong and be confessing to only part of it but now she understands, so it has become less of an issue. We all help him.

Good luck x

Thewookiemustgo · 27/02/2023 14:05

@uipas this really sounds like relationship OCD, look it up on the OCD Action website, the condition is also abbreviated to ROCD. What makes me think this is that you know, and have trusted confirmation of, the fact that you did nothing untoward on this evening out. Nothing. However, you are in a loop of doubting, which produces extreme anxiety, which fuels the doubting, which makes you seek confirmation, from a friend, from Mumsnet…. and for a while the confirmation that you did nothing calms you and you can accept it. But then OCD’s favourite internal question pops up, the wonderful world of “Yes, but what if….?”
“What if…..” is a close relation of OCD, it’s the fuel which keeps the fire of self doubt burning. You can rationally know deep down that nothing happened, you can get it confirmed by a trusted friend who was an eye witness, but after a while the “Yes, but what if I did and they just didn’t see me?” “Yes, but what if they are actually lying?”
In your post you are wrestling with the notion that they might have lied, even though you can’t find a single reason in reality why they would. Over and over again. This is OCD, and you are suffering and I’m so sorry, it’s truly awful, I have direct experience of it from when I suffered from it many years ago. I had no compulsions so it was easy to hide, but I was exhausted with gathering confirmation that it was OCD only to ruminate and pick everything apart with “Yes, but what if it isn’t? What if I just really am this way now and all I fear will come true?” And down I spiralled until eventually I became very ill and it showed. At the time I knew little of OCD except the popular concepts about checking doors and washing hands and liking things neat and ordered all the time. Therefore to me I couldn’t possibly have OCD, I must just be finally losing the plot. It was OCD, OP, just like I’m pretty sure yours is. You got the classic template of repeated anxiety inducing thoughts and ruminations, seeking confirmation, continuing to obsess and unpicking the evidence until anxious and doubtful and off go the thoughts all over again. It’s a horrible condition, the patterns of behaviour are the same, whatever the content of the anxiety producing thoughts: germs, committing murder, infidelity, the subject matter is not really important, the diagnosis depends on the repetitive scary thoughts, seeking reassurance or carrying out relief producing compulsions which only work for a short time, if at all, rinse and repeat, repeat, repeat. Look up ROCD and OVD Action and you’ll see yourself there. It won’t stop your OCD, but it will be a relief to find out that you’re actually ill and not a terrible person who might be unfaithful. Then you need to get some help. You sound really self aware to have noticed that what’s going on with you might be OCD, I think with help and the right mental tools and strategies to deal with it, you’ll get a handle on it and see it for what it is. I hope you get the support you need as soon as possible, I promise you it’s controllable and can go away with the right help and some practise on your part. X

indieray · 27/02/2023 14:11

I've been where you are. Ocd is called the doubting disorder, if you have to ask yourself 'is this ocd? Then it's OCD. Your brain is weirdly trying to protect you.
Remember if you have to ask is this ocd? 100 million times over its OCD. Stay away from alcohol for a while if you do drink it makes it worse.

uipas · 27/02/2023 18:06

Thank you all so much, I truly am feeling a bit better and, while I am aware it is not going to last and that seeking confirmation is not the best long term practice while fighting this thing, more importantly I know my next steps and can imagine a way out now. I recently shared these obsessive thoughts with my closest friends as well and as supportive as they tried to be, they (luckily for them) couldn’t really understand what it’s all about. It sure is inspiring that you won this battle and I am positive both me and your brother @SamTG will too.

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Burntoastime · 27/02/2023 21:42

Yes, I have been through something very similar.

It is absolutely awful and I am really sorry you are in the think of this.

I would recommend trying to get some Cognative Behavioural Therapy, this helped me quite a bit.

I also recommend the OCD stories podcast. There are also quite a few OCD memoirs that might make you feel like you are not alone.

As I understand it, with this kind of OCD the thoughts/'flashbacks' are the intrusive thought, the 'checking' with friends or running over your own memory is the compulsion.

Eventually therapy will help you to live with the intrustice thoughts and manage the intrusive thought/compulsion reinforcement cycle.

It is so awful I had so many days like this and really feel for you.

Onsloww1964 · 28/04/2023 14:29

Apologies to drag this up again, especially if you are feeling better!!
I can’t help but think I’m suffering from a similar situation. Very drunk at a friends wedding months ago. Husband also in attendance. Fuzzy memories for parts of the night … bride now says someone was in the disabled toilets having sex?!!
ive been an anxious wreck for days worrying it was me as I know I went in this toilet at points during the night! Bride thinks it’s grooms friends. I’m ill with worry thinking I’ve ruined my marriage, it must of been me and it’s all going to come out at some point and my life will be over!
My friends know I get anxiety after drinking anyway so convinced myself I must of done it and they just won’t tell me?!
I obviously can’t tell my husband I’m feeling like this but I don’t know what to do! I’ve never done anything like that before so why do I think that it’s happened now with a stranger???

uipas · 30/05/2023 08:44

Hi @Onsloww1964 sorry I’ve missed your response on this! Now that I am in therapy and have a bit more understanding of this thing I also won’t provide you with any reassurance, but what I will say is that it sounds super familiar indeed and I hope you also got or will get some professional help. It’s only been 3 months for me and the difference it made is hard to imagine. If I can suggest something - I know it is hard, but stop googling for similar cases as eventually it will only make your anxiety worse, try some meditation to be able to help you calm while the intrusive thoughts kick in (headspace app is great), ROCD podcasts mentioned above also helped a ton. While searching for a therapist (eventually it is the most efficient way, if not the only one, to fight OCD), try to find one that specializes in this area. Fingers crossed for you, we got this!

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Ilovedogs1 · 14/01/2025 16:38

I know this hasn't been posted on for a while but as a fellow OCD sufferer, very interested to know how you are getting on @uipas . X

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