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He's at it again

25 replies

Snoopy111 · 11/02/2023 23:31

About 4 years ago I found out that my husband of 20+ years had slept with someone else, only once but I think there were other times when they were physical but only once had sex. When I confronted him he promised it would never happen again, that it was a one-off, that he would spend the rest of his life making it up to me. He hasn't. He was coming out of a period of depression during which he'd had an intense friendship (emotional affair?) with someone else. I gave him the benefit of the doubt. It's hard living together, pretending, going through the motions. I feel very lonely. Theres no physical contact between us at all. The only people who hug me are our children.
After the last one he said I could read his messages whenever I wanted to and I do. I don't ask and I don't know if he knows. I hadn't done for ages then did just before Christmas. I found messages from 2 different women that he met through work. One talked about how he had just stopped replying after they'd been physically intimate and the other talked about how far they had gone and when they could next meet. He has lied to my face about what he has been doing when he has been to meet this woman.
I'm ashamed to tell him that I've been reading his messages but I hate the way we are living and myself for just putting up with it.
I'm not even sure why I'm telling mumsnet this except that I can't tell anyone irl as we've been together so long that almost all our friends are joint friends and I feel embarrassed and despite everything I don't want them to think badly of him, although I do. I suppose I hope that if I write it here it won't be on the tip of my tongue every time I open my mouth. Thanks for listening.

OP posts:
MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 11/02/2023 23:35

Leave him

Why are you staying with him?

Ghostbuster2639 · 11/02/2023 23:35

Get rid.

newyearsamesh1t · 11/02/2023 23:36

I'm so sorry, what an awful situation. Why are you staying in this relationship?

Snoopy111 · 11/02/2023 23:40

I don't think we can afford to live separately at the moment. It would be easier if he was at least honest about it. But he clearly has no feelings left for me at all.

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LittleOwl153 · 11/02/2023 23:45

You can afford to - or rather you cannot afford not to.

This man is robbing you of your self esteem as well as the opportunity for you and your children to be part of a happy household. They will have noticed things are not right with the way he treats you and it is not modelling good adult relationships for them which will kmpact their future if not addressed.

Good luck.

supercali77 · 11/02/2023 23:55

Why are you feeling ashamed about reading the messages??. It was an agreement between you since he betrayed your trust before and also he's been caught out again. Twice! Is shame really why you're keeping it to yourself? Or is it maybe if you say it, it's real, and perhaps the shoe will drop and then you'll have to overhaul it all? It is hard...to leave. The logistics. The finances. The kids. The housing. There is enormous pressure just to keep the status quo. It's death by a thousand cuts over years rather than a shit show over a few months.

WhoNeedsSleepNotISaidMyBody · 12/02/2023 00:01

I'm sorry you're going through this.

I know it's scary to think about leaving & being in your own, but living like this is no life. Be honest with friends, it's his shame not yours!!

Tell him to leave. Say you forgave him
once & are not prepared to again!!

(use your phone to take screen shots of the messages.)

you'll work it out financially between incomes & benefits etc

LarryStyinson · 12/02/2023 00:01

Go to citizens advice or turn to us for advice on any benefits you may be entitled to. Womens aid can support you too.
You are strong enough to do this. I'm walking the same road myself after 14 years. There is more to life than wasting time on these fools

Moobae · 12/02/2023 03:17

Cheaters don’t change

Summer2424 · 12/02/2023 03:29

Hi @Snoopy111 so sorry you're going through this x
Is there a family member you could speak to?
Sending you strength to get through this time xx

BlastedPimples · 12/02/2023 04:22

I have wasted another 9 years on a man who had an affair. Getting divorced now. Thank goodness. I'm shitting myself about the poverty we now face but we are going to be free.

Don't do stay with him. Don't waste more time. He is who he is.

You don't need to tell him you've seen more messages. Just say you want a divorce and his previous behaviour is something you can't get over.

Nelly10 · 12/02/2023 11:32

Get rid tell your family and friends.

This is no life for you.

Watchkeys · 12/02/2023 11:33

Why are you embarrassed? What do you think you've done wrong?

YouJustDoYou · 12/02/2023 11:35

Op, don't be embarrassed, and certainly don't feel ashamed. You have done NOTHING wrong.

xJoy · 12/02/2023 11:37

Please, just give up. It's a half life.

Save yourself.

Yesthatismychildsigh · 12/02/2023 11:44

Of course he’s at it again. You’ve showed him that there’s no consequences. Do you realise you will have a lifetime of this? If that’s what you want from your life then carry on as you are. If not, then do something. Don’t bother waiting until next time, or the time after. Do something now.

SprayedWithDettol · 12/02/2023 11:49

Why do you care about others thinking badly of him, when he doesn't give a damn about you?

OP, I've been married to a cheating bastard and felt worthless. But there was a nugget of self respect left in me and I pulled myself out of the misery and got out - with my son. It was hard but it did it and have thrived. If I can do it, so can you - sadly MN wasn't a thing then so i did it alone. Best of luck.

tinatea · 12/02/2023 11:54

How old are the children?

It's hard I know especially when you have a family to consider.

FirstnameSuesecondnamePerb · 12/02/2023 12:02

"Can't afford to live separately"
What would you do if he left tomorrow?

Isheabastard · 12/02/2023 12:09

The fact you are not furious and willing to shout it from the rooftops is very telling.

I would suggest you see a therapist as soon as possible to find out why this is.

I spent years with my ex being told I was the problem, and a therapist has helped me see things as they truly are.

I hope you find the strength to either leave him, or ask him to move out.

Soonenough · 12/02/2023 12:55

I do understand OP. After 20+ years , it is hard to contemplate separating. Take your time , see your options. I was in the same position, thought I had no way of kicking him out because of finances. Also embarassed and ashamed snd could not tell anyone . I lived with it for awhile. But the hurt and rage were there all the time. I could hardly bring myself to look at him , let alone continue normal life . He is a cheater and a liar . Never changes that . I did get rid if him and you know what, I am OK . You will be too.

ShakespearesBlister · 12/02/2023 17:07

Why would it be easier if he was honest about it? Because you will just keep putting up with it anyway? Isn't your self respect worth not having quite as much money for? I'd rather be potless than put up with this.

WilsonMilson · 12/02/2023 17:27

Your marriage has been over for 4 years. Why are you wasting your life further? Staying because it’s financially easier is a cop out.

Snoopy111 · 12/02/2023 20:51

Thank you for the supportive messages from those of you who understand that it is more complicated than just ltb. We have 2 children at university, another in their early twenties and 1 still at primary school. Separating is complicated right now. Living together platonically would be easier if he was just straightforward about seeing other people. At least then it would feel genuine.
I don't feel like I'm wasting my life more that I'm biding my time.

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Grandmasword · 12/02/2023 21:14

this man is not going to mend something he has broken which is your marriage.
Why go to him for an explanation? what is that going to achieve? Do you think that his apology, his reasons and or anything he throws at you each time you bring this up with him is going to mend things?

The thing with men, or women who do this is that they choose this, its not an accident, its a choice. He chooses to give someone his number, he chooses to flirt, he chooses to sleep with them knowing full well he has a wife at home. He chooses to let you down.

The link below may open your eyes a little bit to what you are dealing with.

www.chumplady.com/

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