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How do you tell someone you are unhappy?

19 replies

WeNeedToTalkNow · 06/02/2023 10:26

I know this sounds odd- but if it helps I have autism and I do struggle with things like this.

I’ve been with DP for just over 2 years, living together a few months. Things aren’t bad. He’s a good man and I trust him, we have a laugh sometimes and we have some mutual interests.

But, things aren’t good either. He’s rarely home due to his hobbies. When he is home he’s constantly on his phone (I think it might be a genuine addiction?) or napping. We never spend any time together, I’ve tried to ask for a bit of compromise on how long he’s spending at his various hobbies but he says it’s not possible. In fact he’s recently decided he’s starting a new hobby too, no discussion! Presumably this will be during the very rare times he is home (occasional Friday nights and Sundays). The time we do spend together (when he isn’t doing hobbies or asleep), he has his phone on his hand and it’s beeping constantly. We will have a film on or whatever but he doesn’t watch it, just texts, scrolls Facebook, is on one of his hobby chat groups. I don’t have any reason to think he’s cheating or even chatting to women, I really think his hobby is all he cares about and he’s just in touch with people from that.

This weekend he was out at his hobby 8am-9:30pm on Saturday, which is fine but when he got home I was watching something and when it finished I went to make a drink and then he was fast asleep. We barely had the chance to say hello, how was your day, and there he stayed until he decided it was bed time. He barely said a word to me when he got in and he hates being woken/disturbed when he’s tired so I just sat and scrolled MN for an hour! Sunday he had some errands to run and some DIY bits to do (I do 90% of everything but I don’t do DIY). When that was all done and we sat down together it was 7pm, normally we would watch a film or maybe chat or something after eating but he was on his phone both during the meal and for an hour afterwards, so again I just sat, I didn’t really know what to say without him getting upset that I’m telling him what he can and can’t do! So eventually I got up, tidied everything away and when I got back I put something on TV, then he fell asleep- so again no time together at all.

This isn’t the first time and every time the resentment builds. I know I need to say something and I’ve tried a few times but I can’t do it. He isn’t very good when he feels “nagged” and will shut down/storm off or make excuses so any conversation I’ve tried in the past has been short lived and somehow I’m the bad guy. In bed last night I was really trying to find the words (I’m fine once I get going but I couldn’t think how to tell someone how unhappy you are without “nagging” them?). I’m considering doing it by text today whilst he’s at work so he knows we need to talk tonight, but it that petty? And do I just text “I’m unhappy” or do I send a long message (like this post!) and explain? He will instantly become defensive anyway. I really don’t know what to do, it isn’t a LTB situation but things do need to change.

OP posts:
cortisolqueen · 06/02/2023 10:31

What time did you spend together before you moved in? Has he ramped up the hobbies since this?

It sounds like you're just not compatible/he wants to have the convenience of you at home without putting any effort into the relationship.

WeNeedToTalkNow · 06/02/2023 10:39

cortisolqueen · 06/02/2023 10:31

What time did you spend together before you moved in? Has he ramped up the hobbies since this?

It sounds like you're just not compatible/he wants to have the convenience of you at home without putting any effort into the relationship.

I think he has, but I think he’s done it gradually and adding this new one has really upset me as he doesn’t have any time, at all. The weekend hobby doesn’t bother me (when it’s just Saturday), sometimes I go with him, he’s happy for me to go along. But some weekends it’s now Sundays too. The evenings are worse now for sure, he really only spends a Friday evening at home and that’s if nothing else has come up. When I’ve tried to discuss it he just gets annoyed and says “fine I’ll quit all my hobbies and just be at home all the time then!” So of course I then say don’t be silly, I only want a compromise etc but he says it isn’t possible. One time he agreed and nothing changed. I think he made more effort to not be on his phone and spend time with me in the evenings before we lived together, there’s no way I would’ve moved in knowing how it would be. So maybe the hobbies haven’t changed too much but it’s the other time we could spend together that has?

OP posts:
80s · 06/02/2023 10:55

He isn’t very good when he feels “nagged” and will shut down/storm off or make excuses so any conversation I’ve tried in the past has been short lived and somehow I’m the bad guy. In bed last night I was really trying to find the words (I’m fine once I get going but I couldn’t think how to tell someone how unhappy you are without “nagging” them
When someone likes you, gets on with you and wants you to stay with them, then they don't do this. You don't sit wondering how to tell them things, because you know that when you tell them what you're thinking, they'll react normally, the same way you would in that situation. So you just tell them what you feel in a normal voice, and they say something like "Oh shit, I didn't mean to do that, sorry", or "I can't see anything wrong with that?" and you have a normal discussion.

When I’ve tried to discuss it he just gets annoyed and says “fine I’ll quit all my hobbies and just be at home all the time then!”
This is another way to manipulate people. He's got all the methods, hasn't he.

mycatsanutter · 06/02/2023 11:00

Is it possible tot can just leave and rent your own place ? It sounds like you are living as 2 complete strangers .

Goatbilly · 06/02/2023 11:01

What do you want long term out if a relationship? Child/ren? How old are you?

Sparkletastic · 06/02/2023 11:18

I think you need to decide what you want. In your position I'd be ending the relationship. I'd start the conversation by saying 'I'm unhappy that we spend so little time together and I think our relationship might have run it's course.'

FeinCuroxiVooz · 06/02/2023 11:22

why would you say it's not an LTB situation given that he is clearly putting nothing at all into the relationship and you are getting nothing at all out of it?

his passive-aggressive martyrish response "Oh I will just give up all my hobbies and be with you all the time shall I" tells you what you need to know, he is willing to use every trick in the book to keep you uncertain of yourself and willing to put his desires over your needs

LTB

AllPaws4 · 06/02/2023 12:11

I think that the first thing you need to realise is that you don’t have a relationship other than as his housekeeper and for sex. It sounds like he would happily put you in the cupboard until he wants something. And woe betide you asking even for scraps from him.
What exactly do you get out of this situation? He is either physically absent from the house or emotionally absent by spending all his time on his phone.
It’s time to get a deposit together for a new flat & leave one weekend whilst he enjoys his hobby. Never look back!

WeNeedToTalkNow · 06/02/2023 23:30

I’m early 40s, I could probably afford to leave. I’d like marriage but he isn’t keen on that.

Quite like the idea of leaving on a hobby day if/when it comes to that!

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determinedtomakethiswork · 06/02/2023 23:33

It's a massive LTV situation! He's not a bastard, he's just not a partner either. Move out and create your own life for yourself. This one isn't going to change.

LeopardsDontChangeTheirSpots · 06/02/2023 23:44

He definitely won't change - his life is just fine the way he's got it: you look after the house & him. He gets to do what he wants, when he wants and has sex available when he wants it. He doesn't even have to actually put ANY effort in either emotionally or physically.
I love your idea of moving out when he's on a hobby day. Perfect! Go for it and find someone who actually wants to be with you and be present with you. This cock clearly does not.

Aquamarine1029 · 06/02/2023 23:47

This is 100% a LTB situation. This relationship is dead in the water, op, and he is shockingly selfish and self-absorbed. Please, please do not settle for this. Your standards should be much higher.

Sorchamarie · 07/02/2023 00:01

Sorry OP, I think you're absolutely wasting your time with this man. Someone who clearly doesn't want to spend time with you (he barely interacts with you when he is there from what you've said) and who shuts you down so comprehensively and disrespectfully when you try to raise any issues with him is not someone who will change (or who even really cares about you). This is as good as it will get, so you have to decide if this is really something you're willing to settle for. I hope you realise you deserve more.

Suprima · 07/02/2023 00:06

It’s not a LTB situation?

eh?

you want to continue doing 90% of the domestic shit for a man who doesn’t even enjoy spending time with you and adds nothing to your life?

the mind boggles

ok, maybe it’s not ‘leave the bastard’, but maybe it’s ‘leave the mediocre bloke who has zero value apart from some DIY occasionally’

Itisbetter · 07/02/2023 00:08

How do you want it to be?
You’ve been really clear on what’s not working for you, what would work?
I’d ask for what I wanted and see what happens. If he doesn’t want to accommodate your needs then just tell him it’s not working for you and move out in a normal way not runaway while he’s out.

BertaHoon · 07/02/2023 00:10

I'd skip the I'm unhappy part and fast forward to I'm off.

Then go, and don't look back. You're not happy, he doesn't want to spend time with you. Be free!

journeyofinsanity · 07/02/2023 00:28

You need to have that conversation. The one that goes 'the relationship we have is not one that I want. We do not spend any quality time together. This is not working for me'

TentCampByTheHippoRiver · 07/02/2023 01:53

Our household has a rule, no devices during meal times
This works well & we have quality conversation time

I suggest spending the time that he is away to plan your exit & find somewhere else to live

His actions speak louder than his words
He makes no time for you
He makes no effort for you

Find someone who wants to spend quality time with you

xfan · 07/02/2023 08:21

WeNeedToTalkNow · 06/02/2023 23:30

I’m early 40s, I could probably afford to leave. I’d like marriage but he isn’t keen on that.

Quite like the idea of leaving on a hobby day if/when it comes to that!

Do you have your own assets?

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