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Improving relationship with DSS

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Menora · 05/02/2023 07:28

I have little experience with boy children as I have girls so this is fairly new to me. I get on ok with SS who is 8, but he definitely sees me as bottom of the pile. He makes it so I lose every game we ever play, he will always make me go last for everything we do, he always wants me to sit furthest away (or not at all). He isn’t outright unpleasant to me as such, he talks to me but he can be rude and DP doesn’t always pull him up which can be frustrating. DP feels guilty I think for being divorced and having me around so I think let’s him get away with things but to be fair DP also does nag him constantly about a lot of things. I don’t want to put pressure on DP to choose me over his own child, just you know, parent him. Games end up not being fun so I lose interest in them quickly, and if I ever beat him he seems to be mortally wounded.

SS has not great table manners. If there is anything extra on the table aside from the meal, (bread, salad) SS will take all of it for himself instead of eating the main. he also doesn’t use cutlery so I sometimes will remind him to use it, or focus on his food and not taking everyone else share. I can get him to help out but usually takes a lot of encouragement that he’s better than everyone else at washing or tidying up for him to do anything, and then he will do it very slowly.

SS seems to really like his step dad and they do a lot together so I don’t think he objects to having step parents but we don’t seem to have hit it off well. My own girls tell me he annoys them by tickling them and not stopping when they ask him to. I will always tell him to stop. He also is overbearing with my dog (mine before we met) and tries to lie on top of the dog or put his arms round the neck and get into the dogs face to kiss him which I am constantly saying is not safe, and all the reasons why he needs to be kinder and gentler to the dog. The dog is very placid natured and has never bitten, but I told DP that if the dog bites DSS when he does this it will not be the dogs fault in this case so I expect DP to stop this behaviour. I really worry that DSS mum would expect me to get rid of the dog if he bit him and then I would be in an impossible situation. Despite knowing the dog for 3 years and being around other dogs he still does all of these things, and more like trying to force the dog to play and insists on walking the dog himself but not paying attention to the lead and I am always hovering over them intervening which makes me feel controlling. I have told DP I don’t think we should ever get another dog as it’s too stressful but he thinks one day a puppy would be a great idea.

I once bought DSD something in a sale I had seen that was a bargain and gave it to my DP to give to her (it wasn’t anything very exciting) but DSS has never forgotten this and reminds me of the time I bought DSS something and not him.

I would like to build a good RS with DSS though and today I have him on my own for a few hours. Does anyone have any suggestions of how I can build a better relationship? I asked him what he wanted to do today and he said play video games, but DP thinks we should do something away from TV.

Thanks

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Hellopello · 05/02/2023 07:37

Ask him what his favourite meal and dessert is, maybe play master chef and make it together
do the same for your daughters on seperate days

You could go for a walk together with dog and have hot chocolate and pancakes when home. then play video games

Hellopello · 05/02/2023 07:41

When I say play master chef, I mean tongue in cheek, we used to pretend the pressure was on when preparing and say the catch phrases from the master chef show to have a laugh. “ after 4 weeks of training the pressure is on on now DSS is up against the best of the best”. “ can he mash this potato, oh no, the time is running out “

Menora · 05/02/2023 07:45

Hellopello · 05/02/2023 07:41

When I say play master chef, I mean tongue in cheek, we used to pretend the pressure was on when preparing and say the catch phrases from the master chef show to have a laugh. “ after 4 weeks of training the pressure is on on now DSS is up against the best of the best”. “ can he mash this potato, oh no, the time is running out “

In part these are all the worst activities I can think of 😫😂

Me asking him to stop licking the uncooked food and putting his hands in it flicking it around then he will get bored and wander off and I will end up doing all the work then he won’t eat it. Then he will harangue the dog and make me watch him play video games not allowed to play!

It is so hard being an adult around a child but not their parent and I feel like a real nag.

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Gonnagetacatwhenimovein · 05/02/2023 07:49

You are focused on the child when you should be focused on your partners parenting

Menora · 05/02/2023 07:52

Gonnagetacatwhenimovein · 05/02/2023 07:49

You are focused on the child when you should be focused on your partners parenting

Yep, I think that’s the issue. I am frustrated by the parenting. He does nag at him but he often waits until it’s really escalated. Sitting round the table you could just have some ground rules, or with the dog. I hate that it feels like it’s up to me to fill that gap

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Justleaveitblankthen · 05/02/2023 07:57

He wouldn't be getting within 10 feet of my dog, let alone taking it for a walk and being careless with the lead. Poor little thing.
This kid needs serious parenting boundaries before a tragedy happens.

Menora · 05/02/2023 07:57

@Gonnagetacatwhenimovein

It is interesting that DP’s friends and family will often comment that DSS is allowed to get away with lots of things and are soft parenters

DP’s parents often tell him off when DP is there, instead of DP doing it. Now I find myself doing it

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BananaBlue · 05/02/2023 08:01

Your DP sounds ineffectual and I’d focus on how I feel about that first.
(tbh, I couldn’t be with a parent, who is failing their child)

How much time does he spend with his son?

Untitledsquatboulder · 05/02/2023 08:01

Sounds like he's jealous of you and your family hogging (to his mind) his father. How much time with his dad (and just his dad) does he get?

Reugny · 05/02/2023 08:01

OP your partner is showing who he is in his lack of parenting.

Your SS will get worse when he's a hormonal teenager as he can't follow simple rules now to keep himself safe e.g. around your dog and his father won't step up in time.

Reugny · 05/02/2023 08:03

Sorry I was suppose to add if you don't like your partner's parenting the choice are to dump your partner now, or to simply not live with him so you aren't around when his children visit.

Btw I have a friend who dumped someone over his parenting.

Menora · 05/02/2023 08:07

He gets loads of time with him. I don’t live there, I work really long hours and my dog isn’t left there when I am not there. I always wondered if this was the issue I am not there enough but being there more wouldn’t help either

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Menora · 05/02/2023 08:11

Justleaveitblankthen · 05/02/2023 07:57

He wouldn't be getting within 10 feet of my dog, let alone taking it for a walk and being careless with the lead. Poor little thing.
This kid needs serious parenting boundaries before a tragedy happens.

I avoid dog/child interactions as much as I can. I seriously worry about something happening to the dog tbh, he is smaller than DSS and I keep saying to DP it could cost a fortune in vets fees if he gets injured by DSS although I’m sure he could inflict a bite as any animal could. You can never be 100% sure a dog won’t bite someone if you accidentally hurt the dog as the dog tends to leave or freeze. I just manhandle DSS off the dog now

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Menora · 05/02/2023 08:12

@Untitledsquatboulder

they have 50/50 so although I don’t think he gets much alone time, that’s just due to having a sibling. I am only there a short while. I am having DSS as DP has to take DSD somewhere and I offered - as I would like to get along with him, he’s a child

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Copasetic · 05/02/2023 08:18

My son likes cooking, going for a walk and getting an ice cream or hot chocolate and playing games. That's the sort of thing we might do on a Sunday. Try to focus on the positive - like schools do - and ignore the negative things. Can't say I know much about it but I'm sure there's loads of books on it! My kids have never been very challenging so we'd sort of bumbled our way through without any method. I would also adopt a good cop bad cop approach with you backing off and your parter stepping up with some firm boundaries.

Menora · 05/02/2023 08:30

I was going to make slime with him in a controlled mess kind of way as no one is going to eat it. No dog. I’m not sure games are ever a good idea he won’t play by any rules in a game so maybe a walk. How do you play games with a kid who just makes up all the rules so that you will lose from the start or just makes you sit and watch them play 😂

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Whatonearth07957 · 05/02/2023 16:43

I wouldn't be able to put up with my dog being manhandled. That's a hard no. Step in. If your dp doesn't like it that's an absolute no. He's not parenting. However much I loved my dp you can't put up with that.

Dontknownow86 · 05/02/2023 18:27

I wouldn't bother trying that much. He'll only catch the hump that you are trying to force things and the issues need to be resolved by his dad.

I'd just let him play the video games and maybe do something yourself he might be interested in that he can join in with or not. Let him know it's an option to join you and leave him to it.

letitb · 05/02/2023 20:01

I'd take him out somewhere - trampoline park, bike ride, crazy golf etc. just one on one time doing something fun outside of the house together.I find it easier to chat and bond with my step kids being out the house actually doing something plus it's more fun!

Menora · 05/02/2023 21:31

It went great tbh I think without DP there it was better 🤣
we played with things and talked it was fine

then we went out for dinner and DP tried to give away his dinner to them when they weren’t eating their dinner and I took him to one side and said wtf why are you doing this? You bought them food they will eat what they are given and you eat yours, why are you giving them food they didn’t ask for? He got the hump about it but it made no sense. He asked them what they wanted and they chose, he then chose another option then tried to give it to them anyway? I have watched him do this so many times. He will give his whole dinner to them while theirs sits there all cold and congealed

DP is weird

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