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Partner just cannot stay awake

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Namenamechangeaway · 02/02/2023 09:29

This probably sounds silly but here we go. DP is mid 40s, average health, works a fairly physical job, no medication. He goes out and does hobbies 2/3 nights a week and all day at least one weekend day, sometimes both days. Even on his non hobby days, he has something going on (visiting parents, shopping etc) which means we very rarely start any sort of evening together before 8 or 9pm. So we very rarely have an evening or day together. I have DC, he doesn’t.

I try to do absolutely everything around the house before he gets back so we get some time together. He will get home and we will eat dinner (I usually wait for him as otherwise I really wouldn’t see him at all!), then I tidy away while he’s on his phone for a bit then by the time I sit down too it’s 9/9:30. He will usually ask do I want to watch something, chooses an episode of something we are watching together, then within a minute or two, he’s fast asleep. Not “resting his eyes” or napping but full on, head back, snoring until the credits (this tends to wake him up). Depending on the time he might suggest we watch another one, I’ll say he slept through that one and he says he didn’t, he heard it etc and knew what was going on. Other times he will admit he “felt himself nodding off then”, we used to rewatch stuff so he didn’t miss it but I won’t do this now, I just have him constantly asking “who’s that?” etc. He’s very set on his bed time (won’t go to bed early as he will be up at 5am apparently!), but won’t go later either. He also insists on getting up at a set time each day saying if he lays in he won’t sleep that night. When he goes to bed he falls asleep quickly and seems to sleep well at night (he has a watch that monitors his sleep etc), he sleeps for about 8 hours a night in bed.

It seems extreme to me, I’m sure everyone has tired days but this is every single day. Whenever I try to talk to him about it, he gets very defensive. He says he can’t help it and it’s just him. Denies it’s age as he says he’s always been like it. He says when he needs to sleep, he just sleeps and nothing can be done. And yet he can be at one of his hobbies until 9 or 10pm sometimes, will often stay chatting with mates and he’s wide awake then. I’ve been there when we’ve all been sat inside in the warm or outside in the dark in the summer and he’s fine. He drives home in the dark after one of his hobbies most evenings, completely fine. And when he occasionally goes out with friends (not often) he can be out and awake until 11:30, either sat in a pub or on a train home and he’s never once nodded off then.

He once got home at 5:20pm with no plans for the evening (very, very rare) and was asleep by 5:30! This was especially annoying as I had something important to talk to him about (health related-me) and as soon as I started, he nodded off. I tried waking him once because I really wanted to tell him about my appointment and he got annoyed saying he can’t help when he needs to sleep and I have to just deal with it and he slept for 2 hours, woke up and ate and then fell asleep again. This can’t be normal?

He was anaemic a few years ago and so I told him he needed to see a doctor in case it was that again, she gave him full blood tests (I told him to request B12 etc too in case it was medical, which I doubt at this point as he can stay awake for friends/hobbies/etc), and they all came back clear. He’s sure it’s “just him” but I can’t remember him being like this when we were dating and only saw each other one or two nights a week. I can’t be sure but I think I’d remember never seeing him! I’m sure it’s only in the last year or so since we’ve been living together.

Is this normal? I’m actually so lonely, I have disabled DC and rarely get a night off (they do go to their dad but not as often as they used to) and so a couple of hours with my partner is about as much of an evening I can hope for. I just want to chat about our days, maybe watch a film, maybe even have a cuddle on the sofa. But I end up sat alone watching a TV show he’s chosen or scrolling MN listening to him snore. It’s really starting to get me down.

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uncomfortablydumb53 · 02/02/2023 14:34

Sleep apnoea or not, the fact that he's obviously not tired going out to his hobbies I'd find really insulting
and lie feels I'm boring( not saying he finds you boring of course) but he doesn't prioritise spending time with you at all.
As you've moved into his house, perhaps he doesn't feel he has to make an effort now
Does he understand that you're actually not having quality time together?
I can't see what's in in for you frankly

jannier · 02/02/2023 14:42

So he's out hobbying while substitute mother keeps house doing everything then he can't make an effort for you sod the sleep he's not present at anytime and is being a lazy sod who knows where he is in the evenings but I know he wouldn't have clean clothes the dirty would be in the garden and no food

AttilaTheMeerkat · 02/02/2023 15:08

"We moved into his house as I was renting and he owns his home".

This was not the best move in hindsight.

Now you are seeing what he is really like; he is a man who has a cushy existence at your overall expense.

Oblomov22 · 02/02/2023 15:25

WTF? You can't be serious. As a diabetic since birth, I sleep a lot, can sleep for England, but this is taking the piss. He's not even a partner to you. Get rid.

Namenamechangeaway · 02/02/2023 15:56

PousseyNotMoira · 02/02/2023 14:27

Are you going to tell us what you’re getting from this relationship? As it’s currently not clear to most of us.

I’m not really sure anymore.

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PousseyNotMoira · 02/02/2023 17:32

Namenamechangeaway · 02/02/2023 15:56

I’m not really sure anymore.

That’s pretty much what I thought.

I’m sorry, OP.

autienotnaughty · 02/02/2023 17:54

It honestly sounds like you do all the cooking and cleaning and wait for him to spend time with you. It doesn't sound great tbh. Do you have date nights? Could it be that tv is a sleep aid for him maybe play a game or r talk?

lowclouds · 02/02/2023 18:05

Namenamechangeaway · 02/02/2023 12:22

That’s why I feel bad about getting upset by it, if he can’t help it and just needs lots of sleep then it isn’t his fault. But surely if it’s a medical condition or something he can’t help then it would happen wherever he is or whoever he’s with?

No, not necessarily.

My DH has chronic fatigue. It doesn't mean he will fall asleep when he's out socialising (although sometimes he absolutely exhausts himself in staying out and making himself stay awake, and it's pretty bad for his health really).

The truth is that it's complicated. There is a strong element of social pressure - he understandably wants to be normal and not to spend his entire life at home or leaving early. That is important to him - it's really hard to be the one who always flakes out.

So he will put his all into pushing through the social stuff and then collapse when he gets home.

I just feel sad for him really, but then I don't feel rejected because he doesn't neglect me in the process.

If your partner does have a health issue which limits his energy, he should be making deliberate efforts to put more of that energy into you. Especially if you've raised this with him and told him how lonely/ difficult you're finding it.

Even if it's a health issue, he needs to take some ownership, recognise the impact it's having on you and make some plans. If he doesn't then it doesn't sound like values you very much.

ChocChipOwl · 02/02/2023 18:11

This clearly isn't a man with sleep apnea or a chronic narcolepsy issue

He's able to stay away for hobbies and seeing mates as your OP is at great pains to point out

How old are your kids? I take it you've moved them into this man's house yes?

I'd be looking to put things right by them and find your own place again. What's the point in him? What's the point in your relationship?

He's literally falling asleep every single nigh because he couldn't give a fuck about you and your needs

And running around to ensure he has nothing to burden himself with when he gets in from work. Are you for real? Why are you doing this?

Honestly, take off the rosy tinted specs and see this for what it is.

ChocChipOwl · 02/02/2023 18:11

*awake not away

Zanatdy · 02/02/2023 18:20

I guess when he’s driving or doing hobbies he’s pre-occupied so doesn’t fall asleep. Or even with friends over, but when he’s with you I guess he feels like he’s at home and can drop off if he wants. I feel your frustration though, it must be annoying. I do think you’re entitled to speak to him about option of cutting back a bit on hobbies, when you’re not seeing him. If he wants the relationship to work long term there’s got to be a compromise. He also needs to stop being silly about not going to bed early as he won’t sleep, when he’s asleep on the sofa so he does sleep. He needs to get some more quality sleep so get to bed an hour earlier some nights for a month and see if any improvement. Some people do need more sleep than others. I rarely get more than 6hrs the last few years. Ideally I’d have an early afternoon nap but work doesn’t fit into that! It’s my age, up at crack of dawn!

asquideatingdough · 02/02/2023 18:20

This does not sound silly at all, OP. My ex DH used to go out and see his mates regularly, staying out until 11pm or later, but on a night in with me, he would fall asleep by 8, before I even finished tidying up after dinner. I spent a lot of evenings on my own and no explanation, discussion or compromise worked. It was a part of the end of our relationship because he simply got defensive or refused to recognise the impact on me. Ultimately I feel it was a way of avoiding intimacy with me.

With your DP it sounds as though he has got habituated to falling asleep when on the couch in the evening. Sleep apnea may be a factor. But that doesn't mean the end of it. If he cares about your relationship he should try to do something about it. This isn't a trivial matter, if couples never do anything together they lose their connection.

I don't have a solution to suggest but support you in your concern and loneliness!

BeachBlondey · 02/02/2023 18:50

I'd make him stand in the lounge all night. (only half joking)

Namenamechangeaway · 03/02/2023 12:33

Thanks everyone, I think you’re right in that it isn’t just about the falling asleep that’s getting to me- it’s that I never see him. I need to have a think what to do, thank you for all the help and advice.

As for the sleep apnea I will tell him he needs to look at it again and possibly book to see his GP, but I’m leaving that up to him!

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