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I’m retired, DH is working - tension

15 replies

HeartBrokenWife · 01/02/2023 19:38

Background: I left DH a while back but was persuaded to go back because of his promises to change the behaviour I found unacceptable, mainly texting young, female work colleagues. I believe he has stopped this completely, although I’m no longer on the lookout for him being furtive with his phone.

Now, however, another old problem is causing tension between us. We were both workaholics, but I was retired on medical grounds (physical ill health) a few years ago, so I now have a part time job that I do from home and I can work largely to my own schedule. DH is several years younger than me and won’t reach retirement age for another decade. He’s still a workaholic because there’s no reason for him to change. This wouldn’t be a problem but for the fact that he’s worked mainly from home since Covid, takes over every room in the house bar the bedroom and expects me to fit in with his schedule.

When we both worked we had our own separate schedules and things were mainly fine. When I was medically retired he continued to work long hours outside the home which was also fine because I just got on with my life (admittedly less busy than before my health issues) at home and I joined various hobby clubs etc. Now DH is still working every hour of the day, including weekends, it’s beginning to annoy me because he expects me to be at his beck and call and seems to resent the fact that I want my own life rather than waiting until the brief period he’s free to go out and do something with me.

How do I get him to understand that I’m no more likely to leave the relationship if I have hobbies of my own which is his take on things. He also threatens to stop working so we lose the house which is particularly horrible for me to hear as it’s not only a scary threat, but it makes me feel sad that I’m no longer able to earn a relatively decent wage due to my disability.

OP posts:
Longsight2019 · 01/02/2023 20:45

He sounds like the unreasonable abusive twat that you left before. You can always leave him again.

HeartBrokenWife · 01/02/2023 20:59

Longsight2019 · 01/02/2023 20:45

He sounds like the unreasonable abusive twat that you left before. You can always leave him again.

Fair comment, but I wanted to check if I was now being the unreasonable one because that’s what he’s saying. I think my self confidence has been eroded so much that I’m never sure whether I deserve the way he treats me. Pathetic of me I know.

OP posts:
SecretSophie · 01/02/2023 21:09

I'd think about your future OP. This is who he is and he'll not change. Leave him and go and be happy.

Longsight2019 · 01/02/2023 21:10

HeartBrokenWife · 01/02/2023 20:59

Fair comment, but I wanted to check if I was now being the unreasonable one because that’s what he’s saying. I think my self confidence has been eroded so much that I’m never sure whether I deserve the way he treats me. Pathetic of me I know.

No not at all pathetic. More programmed to think and act like that due to years of low level manipulation.

You have to be prepared to forcibly point out that these behaviours are below the belt and that if he continues to push you around like this, he will leave you no option but to go.

He can threaten all he likes with quitting and the house. He doesn’t want that but will use it to silence you.

Show him this thread as it develops. Tell him he’s famous.

JackieDaws · 01/02/2023 21:11

No, do not show him this thread.

Lordofthebutterfloofs · 01/02/2023 21:17

It sounds to me like he wants off the hamster wheel op. Can't you have a discussion on how to make that happen for him?

Lollypop701 · 01/02/2023 21:29

So you either stay at his beck and call or he will give up work so you loose the house. Does this sound controlling to you op, do as you are told or I’ll make you homeless when you are ill?

HeartBrokenWife · 01/02/2023 21:42

Lordofthebutterfloofs · 01/02/2023 21:17

It sounds to me like he wants off the hamster wheel op. Can't you have a discussion on how to make that happen for him?

You could be right and he sometimes says he wants to retire, but then he takes on yet another job for a different client. He’s overloaded himself, but the only on making him do that is himself. I’ve often thought that he should ease up, but I’m not in a position to say it because of my own overworking tendencies. Plus, he wouldn’t listen to my opinion.

OP posts:
HeartBrokenWife · 01/02/2023 21:45

Lollypop701 · 01/02/2023 21:29

So you either stay at his beck and call or he will give up work so you loose the house. Does this sound controlling to you op, do as you are told or I’ll make you homeless when you are ill?

I’ve come to realise that he’s been very controlling over the years, but I expect my illness has affected his life too, just as his overwork affects mine. Sometimes I know I’m being abused by him, but this issue is a bit different because I do benefit financially from his excessive work. I should add that we’re far from rich. I’m not living in luxury, but I’ve definitely got a better standard of living than I could provide for myself these days.

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AllPaws4 · 02/02/2023 11:05

You won’t look back in twenty years thinking my mental health is rubbish, I hated my life but I did have a 4 bedroom house!
You will be entitled to share the proceeds of your marriage including looking at equalising pensions etc so I would get on with examining all your assets and look at leaving. Countless women have done the same & gone on to live their best lives. Please make sure you are one of them!

billy1966 · 02/02/2023 11:14

Speak to Women's aid.

He is controlling and abusive and you are vulnerable.

Start planning on leaving him so that as you age you are not even more vulnerable to his abuse.

This is not going to be a nice future with him.

Be brave now and start planning on an alternative life asap.

Isheabastard · 02/02/2023 11:18

Can you afford therapy? It helped open my eyes and then I knew I had to leave.

Breakfastofmilk · 02/02/2023 12:06

HeartBrokenWife · 01/02/2023 21:45

I’ve come to realise that he’s been very controlling over the years, but I expect my illness has affected his life too, just as his overwork affects mine. Sometimes I know I’m being abused by him, but this issue is a bit different because I do benefit financially from his excessive work. I should add that we’re far from rich. I’m not living in luxury, but I’ve definitely got a better standard of living than I could provide for myself these days.

Is it still a better quality of life overall if you factor in being at his beck and call, him taking over the house and not allowed to take part in your hobbies?

He doesn't sound like he has any interest in listening to you or compromising, he wants it all on his terms to suit him and he threatens to make both of you homeless when you try to negotiate. I understand that you hoped someone would have some magic words to get him to see your point of view but he sounds selfish and totally uninterested. If that's true then there are no magic words and your choices are to put up with him as he is or leave.

Life is short, don't waste too long trying to work out a marriage if the other person doesn't care about you or your happiness.

MatildaTheCat · 02/02/2023 13:14

I’m medically retired and DH is still working. He’s very far from a workaholic but does fill his times with other activities. He’s almost entirely happy for me to fill my time as I please although I do generally make sure dinner is planned through the week and sort out most household stuff.

Your DH sounds jealous of your freedom and is conveniently overlooking your health issues. Would he be open to some diary planning? Say that you can see it frustrates him if you aren’t available when he suddenly has a free hour/ afternoon so how about scheduling some time to do something together? Maybe work towards him working less hours rather than stopping altogether?

If you intend to stay in the relationship and be happy together you’ll have to jointly address this.

samqueens · 02/02/2023 13:46

If you divorced, sold the house, divided assets etc would you be able to afford a decent flat and have an ok pension?

Agree with PP (and you!) he’s abusive and controlling. If it’s like this now imagine what is will be like when he does retire and you’re the only person there to make him feel better/entertain him/bear the brunt of his frustration…

Honestly, I’d get out now while you still have the energy to start over. You’ll feel better having financial security, consistency and autonomy even if at a lower “standard”, then you will living with someone who threatens to purposely lose your home. (Presumably you’ll also be in a better position settlementwise while he still has a good many earning years left in him).

Get legal advice and get your own life back.

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