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Is this mild abuse?

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Agii · 21/01/2023 12:48

Does this classify as mild emotional abuse?

Long read, do apologise for mistakes in the text.

Me 33 and my partner 38 have been together for 9 years, 2 children together aged 4 Y and 21 months, Im worried that he is slowly becoming emotionally abusive, but i don't know if I'm overreacting or whether its just bickering and being horrible for the sake of it.

He has had a fair few temper tantrums where we have argued and if i disagree he has broke things, acted out - i.e furniture that was purchased by me, punched bike tyres, cut cords for the freezer as I didn’t listen and did not unplugged when he said it’s a waste of electricity. Even I pointed out why I have it.

Smashed up a footstool in front of me because my toddler fell off it and I said it happens, but does not mean it needs to be binned. And he smashed it very aggressively. Kids fall off things, but his health and safety anxiety is hurting me.

Always oppose me to getting furniture or suggesting, will make a decision for big things himself. Have threatened to chop up / bin furniture, because he hates it. I’m not talking about unnecessary things.

He has once thrown bedding out of the window to stop me from sleeping when I unintentionally woke up my newborn ( I was exhausted with no sleep). I rushed out sobbing and spoke to my mum for 2 hours on the phone)
He is showing that breaking things shows me that I should listen to him in the first place.
But his justification is that I did not listen and often I’ll be the one to blame, with no apology.

When I meet friends once every few weeks, he will be reluctant for me to go, until the kids have gone to bed, but we have to be on good terms to get “permission “ to go.

I have recently started going to gym as my mental well-being has declined over the months and felt that exercise will help and it really has made me feel better, and we agreed that I’ll get a membership paid as a Christmas present. 1 week forward, I have started attending the gym and went for a class on Saturday morning, he turned around and said: “It can’t be a thing going to the gym on weekends and evening when I come from work, I can’t do it” (he said) therefore he expects me to be at home at all times unless kids are asleep.
I feel like I’m treading on eggshells for the sake of exercising 3 hours a week when my partner is at home. He is a tired person, I know that, but that is why I am trying to keep my outings to minimum, but I still get a long message after I have done something against his wish.

He does not care where I am during the day as long as kids are with me.
He is hands on when he has them, but the times when I have been at the gym, and despite his opposition to him struggling - I find him in the bed with a toddler watching cartoons and he is glued to his phone. It’s clearly not too much to do. I’d personally wouldn’t not mind if he wanted to pop out- unless I was sick or had other plans. Double standards!

He will look after kids on weekend mornings as he is an early bird, wil do brekkie and bath and once up I’m awake - I’ll take over, then he will take a break for 2 hours, come back and watch telly with kids and have a break again. I often take kids out with my friends on Saturdays before I go to work at 4pm.
We hardly go out as a family due to ongoing tension and often he won’t go anywhere more than a 30 min drive. I find the kids will not have the memories of days out because Daddy is often not willing to out. If we do go out - days out are often rushed and mostly on his terms. I feel like I’m on borrowed time when we do things.

Despite his negative reaction I have done my best to sort the children out and went to the gym on Saturday morning for an 1.5 h, and that is when things went downhill.
He is giving me a silent treatment for 4 days for not listening to him. I must admit I don’t talk either, because I feel better when he can’t hurt mr with his guilt tripping.
I have felt that I always need permission to go out, yet he can announce he is meeting a friend and that’s that, I don’t get a say. Very often my voice isn’t heard in this relationship and it is somehow suffocating me. This is just an example of things he has done. If I’m on good books, all is well -
once I step out to have a little more freedom, that’s when I feel the emotional backlash.

He used to send me upsetting messages to get home asap when I went to my friends for a drink and chat with my newborn around 7 pm in the evening, he insisted he needs a bedtime routine, which wasn’t even in place that early days, baby was breastfed and I couldn’t leave him anywhere, but felt stuck at home as my partner wouldn’t try to help other way. Same happened when I would go to the gym years ago and he would send threatening messages as the baby was crying, but he wouldn’t try to find the way to stop it. I never left for long hours and did my best to be with my child at all times, I just didn’t understand the treatment towards me.

I have been suffering with anxiety and sleep issues for a while now, it got a bit better, but it is getting worse after each time of his controlling behaviour episode.
Might seem petty, but last year I could not be present for his birthday as I was abroad with my kids for a while, but I made sure I called twice that day to send greetings, however he was angry that I did not send a card. 6 weeks later my birthday came along and he deliberately made my day miserable without talking to me or saying anything about my birthday and I felt very upset as I thought we would have a lovely day, and he replied - I owe you nothing, you didn’t even get a card for my birthday. It seems minor, but that is a part of his mind games to get me upset and worthless, yet he will often make himself appear innocent.

I’ve been struck in my face once for something I didn’t even realise he could do and denied it. Because I wanted to help my toddler when he was upset, when he was holding him.
He used to blame me if my toddler fell over or cried when was younger, interrogating me while little one was crying. It wasn’t a big deal, but he made it out that it only happens to me looking after him. (80% of time I’m with him) odds?

I feel quite anxious around him and wish I had left him years ago, things really got bad over the past year.

These are the things I have experienced:

Rarely (basically never) apologising/being accountable
Blaming me for lots of things (e.g. work stress when it is nothing to do with me, says that I irritate him.
Distant - Lack of communication, hardly has time and willingness to talk, does not see that we should talk, refers to my talking as “moaning” very often.
Financial control - Makes most decisions about things in the house and what we buy, not consulting me most of the time, since he is a breadwinner. Does not allow me to pick up extra shifts at work, even if it does not affect his work / plans.
Saying that I have it easy staying at home with kids and having coffees with my friends, yet if I ever said that I wish I could go to work like he does, he gets angry, assuming that I determine that his job isn’t hard and I don’t appreciate what he does. I just find it emotionally hard to be with kids so much, and have lost my identity.
Leaving the room when I try to talk about things (He gets extremely angry if I say he does not support me(emotionally). He mistakes it for financial support, that is not too much of an issue, however if I voice that I feel a lack of support for something, he threatens me to stop giving any money and take the car off me. I only work 10 hours a week on weekends, that was very difficult to agree.
He says he supports me working weekends and I know it’s not easy to be at home every weekend evening to be with kids, but he did not agree to split childcare costs for the youngest one in order to work 2 weekdays a week. Not sure if he quite sees that I’m working, not going out, this little income helps me to but my own things without cutting into his salary. I don’t have an allowance, I just have to ask to send money when I go overdrawn, which he is reluctant to do if I go against his wishes.

When I went out to the gym, despite his wishes, he sent me a very long message about how I’m being ungrateful, and I don’t understand how hard he works. This is where I doubt myself, and I think that I am feeling right then. He pointed out that I do not make his sandwiches (because at multiple occasions, he didn’t have my homemade sandwich (it’s not even bad) and had McDonald’s instead, or simply had to bin it, because he did not eat it) and don’t make the dinner.
I will more with make sure that the kids are fed, and if there is food left over, I will make it for him whether they have been times when I have made dinner and he just does not want it because he’s moody. There is no appreciation clearly.

 Calling me a &ldquo;Fu<strong>*</strong>** idiot&rdquo; or retard when things go out of hand and we disagree. 

He is working long hours at respectable position, and provides for us, however him being in a paid job makes me feel like I have no say about things around the house and he knows that leaving me in a vulnerable position as I cannot work more than 10 hours a week. I am made feel guilty for working weekends, even though he says he supports me, I just feel uneasy around him. He will say that he is doing a great job at supporting, yet I somehow feel guilt, like my work is a leisure, not a source of income.


Mood swings (often involving the silent treatment or short answers to questions) out of the blue, sometimes with no explanation, and sometimes it later being explained that I did something to upset him

He deliberately stops doing thing around the house - leaves dishes behind, messy kitchen, toys, won't take bins out - if we are on bad terms.

I think he is aware that I'm no longer putting up with it and have messenger abuse charity and spoke to my counsellor, but have not spoken to him yet - I just want to say to him that I'm not happy and it's time to think of a next step. We own our house 50/50 and have made a claim to UC - but it's all early stages.

I am ready to take a leap and get away before we end up on really bad terms, it’s not worth to suffer like this and feel that weight on my shoulders for allowing myself just to have a bit more freedom to myself.

OP posts:
SlouchingTowardsBethlehemAgain · 21/01/2023 13:25

What a nasty little shit he is. Kick him out if you can, call police when he starts breaking your stuff.

larchforest · 21/01/2023 13:25

That is not mild abuse, it is full-on aggressive, violent abuse, of both you and your dc.

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 21/01/2023 13:27

I stopped reading after the first few paragraphs. There is nothing mild about his behaviour. It's time to get away from this man.

Watchkeys · 21/01/2023 13:30

I just hope it does not bite back

He is abusing you, and the fact that you have sunk to being violent yourself shows how bad this is for you. 'It' can't bite back. 'It' isn't a thing. You're saying that you hope he doesn't use it against you, and that would be abuse anyway.

Spend your time/your life with people you feel good around.

Why would you do otherwise? What's in it for you, and your kids, to spend your time with him? Surely the good times aren't even good now, because you know who he is and you walk on eggshells?

GoT1904 · 21/01/2023 13:35

This is abuse. Not mild abuse. I don't think your brain yet recognises the severing of the situation and is normalising what you're going through as a way to cope.

But your normal is an incredibly abusive relationship. Please do leave, safely.

Spagbolfortea23 · 21/01/2023 13:36

Only read the first part but from what I read this is in now way mild.. this is abuse, plain & simple.

Greyarea12 · 21/01/2023 13:44

Never read your whole post but this is not mild, not in anyway at all. This is abuse.

It reminds me of how my own story of being in an abusive relationship started. I had the bedding taken off me when pregnant, I wasn't allowed to be out without baby, I had to be with baby at all times, I wasn't allowed to sleep, he broke things, smashed things up. Let me tell you, that was only the beginning of the worst time of my life. Fast forward 4 years and it all ended with him being arrested twice and he has 3 separate court orders against him. It will always be my biggest regret not leaving sooner, it ruined the early years of parenting for me.

Don't choose to live like this. Don't choose for your children to live like this. It will completely mess your mental health up, your anxiety is because your going through periods of persistent worry & stress, your children will also start to develop anxiety as they get older.

There's plenty of help out there. Don't keep your children in this. They won't thank you for it. Contact some domestic abuse charities, get advice, get a family lawyer and leave this abusive bastard. I'm 6 years out of it and leaving was the best thing I ever done for me and my dd. The police, lawyers, courts, health visitors and domestic abuse charities all supported me. Please get some help & leave.

larchforest · 21/01/2023 13:51

Agii · 21/01/2023 13:24

No family around.

He is against hitting and that was one off. But that was very odd that he hit me then, I made a point to him and yelled to never ever do that again.
I have hit him (when he jumps onto me in playful or wants to initiate something, but I'm not in the mood most time and now it's non existent anyway). I just hope it does not bite back.

You are not hitting him, you are defending yourself when he tries to physically dominate and overpower you.

vaste · 21/01/2023 14:07

The situation is not salvageable. This is more than mild abuse and you need to leave.

FlamingoElephant · 21/01/2023 14:20

This is far from mild OP! No one deserves to be treated this way and I'm sorry you're going through it!
From going through something pretty much the same and come out the other end I know it's hard to break away! But I think you need to put yourself and your DC first and get away!

He sounds like he has a lot of anger issues and is gaslighting you hugely! He's controlling and manipulative!!

You can't keep living your life like this! It won't get better, or at least it's very unlikely to.

Agii · 21/01/2023 14:41

Nurse2022 · 21/01/2023 13:22

He's incredibly abusive. No wonder you're struggling with your mental health and sleep.
Leave the abusive bastard

My sleep issues started due to lockdown, however now it comes back when I feel like suffocating due to his ultimatums.
He says that if I go to gym twice a week during his" me time" - that's fine by him, but he will have to quit his highly paid job and will potentially do night shifts and will ask me to work full time for the first time ever since kids were born. I wanted to work weekdays, but childcare costs can't justify. Let me see that I do use crèche 2x a a week on weekdays in the morning, but I can't always get a space and it interrupts my sons routine when I do put him in crèche, and I can't do it 4 times a week, unfair to him and also it would cost me £80 on top of the membership each month, which is more than I can afford. Plus when I go on midweek evening once at 7pm for a session - I feel that I can relax a bit and feel like myself. On Saturday morning I rush straight back to make it up for my absence. Often met with grumpy face.
Do I sound spoilt? He has said that this is "taking the piss"
Also I had online studies a few months ago I was offered to get an extra qualification, he firmly pointed out that my study time should not affect my day to day stuff with kids etc. and had a dig at me when I needed to catch up, but kids needed looking after, even if he was there.
It feels like that my well-being and ability to self improve is somehow threatening to him and he is discouraging it.

It's just a part of mind his games.

OP posts:
Yellowflowerr · 21/01/2023 15:00

OP when you said ‘mild’ I don’t know what I was expecting but this is really extreme. Maybe read back what you wrote … you said he literally will BREAK furniture (that is not normal) because he is punishing you, he won’t let you go anywhere, moans at you for the little times you do go out, is abusive towards you in so many ways that you’ve just described and he’s gaslighted you into believing you’re at fault… honestly OP please seek out support from women’s aid, you really need the support before things escalate further (and they always do I’m sorry to say).

Haveagentlechristmas · 21/01/2023 15:09

It's abuse yes. It's not mild. It's quite severe. Coercive control springs to mind. I am glad you are thinking of leaving him. Find the best way to do this safely as they can really ramp up the abuse if they fear they are loosing control.

vaste · 21/01/2023 15:12

Yes, I'd be wary about letting him know your intentions to leave.

Contact Women's Aid as you've been advised and they will help.

Choobyscoopy · 21/01/2023 15:13

Yes. Abuse, and not mild at all.
Ive been through very similar. Trying to get dicorced now but this is whole another ball game. It will get worse. He sounds like a narcissist..

Agii · 21/01/2023 15:22

Choobyscoopy · 21/01/2023 15:13

Yes. Abuse, and not mild at all.
Ive been through very similar. Trying to get dicorced now but this is whole another ball game. It will get worse. He sounds like a narcissist..

Let me add - we are not married.

OP posts:
Agii · 21/01/2023 15:41

Agii · 21/01/2023 12:48

Does this classify as mild emotional abuse?

Long read, do apologise for mistakes in the text.

Me 33 and my partner 38 have been together for 9 years, 2 children together aged 4 Y and 21 months, Im worried that he is slowly becoming emotionally abusive, but i don't know if I'm overreacting or whether its just bickering and being horrible for the sake of it.

He has had a fair few temper tantrums where we have argued and if i disagree he has broke things, acted out - i.e furniture that was purchased by me, punched bike tyres, cut cords for the freezer as I didn’t listen and did not unplugged when he said it’s a waste of electricity. Even I pointed out why I have it.

Smashed up a footstool in front of me because my toddler fell off it and I said it happens, but does not mean it needs to be binned. And he smashed it very aggressively. Kids fall off things, but his health and safety anxiety is hurting me.

Always oppose me to getting furniture or suggesting, will make a decision for big things himself. Have threatened to chop up / bin furniture, because he hates it. I’m not talking about unnecessary things.

He has once thrown bedding out of the window to stop me from sleeping when I unintentionally woke up my newborn ( I was exhausted with no sleep). I rushed out sobbing and spoke to my mum for 2 hours on the phone)
He is showing that breaking things shows me that I should listen to him in the first place.
But his justification is that I did not listen and often I’ll be the one to blame, with no apology.

When I meet friends once every few weeks, he will be reluctant for me to go, until the kids have gone to bed, but we have to be on good terms to get “permission “ to go.

I have recently started going to gym as my mental well-being has declined over the months and felt that exercise will help and it really has made me feel better, and we agreed that I’ll get a membership paid as a Christmas present. 1 week forward, I have started attending the gym and went for a class on Saturday morning, he turned around and said: “It can’t be a thing going to the gym on weekends and evening when I come from work, I can’t do it” (he said) therefore he expects me to be at home at all times unless kids are asleep.
I feel like I’m treading on eggshells for the sake of exercising 3 hours a week when my partner is at home. He is a tired person, I know that, but that is why I am trying to keep my outings to minimum, but I still get a long message after I have done something against his wish.

He does not care where I am during the day as long as kids are with me.
He is hands on when he has them, but the times when I have been at the gym, and despite his opposition to him struggling - I find him in the bed with a toddler watching cartoons and he is glued to his phone. It’s clearly not too much to do. I’d personally wouldn’t not mind if he wanted to pop out- unless I was sick or had other plans. Double standards!

He will look after kids on weekend mornings as he is an early bird, wil do brekkie and bath and once up I’m awake - I’ll take over, then he will take a break for 2 hours, come back and watch telly with kids and have a break again. I often take kids out with my friends on Saturdays before I go to work at 4pm.
We hardly go out as a family due to ongoing tension and often he won’t go anywhere more than a 30 min drive. I find the kids will not have the memories of days out because Daddy is often not willing to out. If we do go out - days out are often rushed and mostly on his terms. I feel like I’m on borrowed time when we do things.

Despite his negative reaction I have done my best to sort the children out and went to the gym on Saturday morning for an 1.5 h, and that is when things went downhill.
He is giving me a silent treatment for 4 days for not listening to him. I must admit I don’t talk either, because I feel better when he can’t hurt mr with his guilt tripping.
I have felt that I always need permission to go out, yet he can announce he is meeting a friend and that’s that, I don’t get a say. Very often my voice isn’t heard in this relationship and it is somehow suffocating me. This is just an example of things he has done. If I’m on good books, all is well -
once I step out to have a little more freedom, that’s when I feel the emotional backlash.

He used to send me upsetting messages to get home asap when I went to my friends for a drink and chat with my newborn around 7 pm in the evening, he insisted he needs a bedtime routine, which wasn’t even in place that early days, baby was breastfed and I couldn’t leave him anywhere, but felt stuck at home as my partner wouldn’t try to help other way. Same happened when I would go to the gym years ago and he would send threatening messages as the baby was crying, but he wouldn’t try to find the way to stop it. I never left for long hours and did my best to be with my child at all times, I just didn’t understand the treatment towards me.

I have been suffering with anxiety and sleep issues for a while now, it got a bit better, but it is getting worse after each time of his controlling behaviour episode.
Might seem petty, but last year I could not be present for his birthday as I was abroad with my kids for a while, but I made sure I called twice that day to send greetings, however he was angry that I did not send a card. 6 weeks later my birthday came along and he deliberately made my day miserable without talking to me or saying anything about my birthday and I felt very upset as I thought we would have a lovely day, and he replied - I owe you nothing, you didn’t even get a card for my birthday. It seems minor, but that is a part of his mind games to get me upset and worthless, yet he will often make himself appear innocent.

I’ve been struck in my face once for something I didn’t even realise he could do and denied it. Because I wanted to help my toddler when he was upset, when he was holding him.
He used to blame me if my toddler fell over or cried when was younger, interrogating me while little one was crying. It wasn’t a big deal, but he made it out that it only happens to me looking after him. (80% of time I’m with him) odds?

I feel quite anxious around him and wish I had left him years ago, things really got bad over the past year.

These are the things I have experienced:

Rarely (basically never) apologising/being accountable
Blaming me for lots of things (e.g. work stress when it is nothing to do with me, says that I irritate him.
Distant - Lack of communication, hardly has time and willingness to talk, does not see that we should talk, refers to my talking as “moaning” very often.
Financial control - Makes most decisions about things in the house and what we buy, not consulting me most of the time, since he is a breadwinner. Does not allow me to pick up extra shifts at work, even if it does not affect his work / plans.
Saying that I have it easy staying at home with kids and having coffees with my friends, yet if I ever said that I wish I could go to work like he does, he gets angry, assuming that I determine that his job isn’t hard and I don’t appreciate what he does. I just find it emotionally hard to be with kids so much, and have lost my identity.
Leaving the room when I try to talk about things (He gets extremely angry if I say he does not support me(emotionally). He mistakes it for financial support, that is not too much of an issue, however if I voice that I feel a lack of support for something, he threatens me to stop giving any money and take the car off me. I only work 10 hours a week on weekends, that was very difficult to agree.
He says he supports me working weekends and I know it’s not easy to be at home every weekend evening to be with kids, but he did not agree to split childcare costs for the youngest one in order to work 2 weekdays a week. Not sure if he quite sees that I’m working, not going out, this little income helps me to but my own things without cutting into his salary. I don’t have an allowance, I just have to ask to send money when I go overdrawn, which he is reluctant to do if I go against his wishes.

When I went out to the gym, despite his wishes, he sent me a very long message about how I’m being ungrateful, and I don’t understand how hard he works. This is where I doubt myself, and I think that I am feeling right then. He pointed out that I do not make his sandwiches (because at multiple occasions, he didn’t have my homemade sandwich (it’s not even bad) and had McDonald’s instead, or simply had to bin it, because he did not eat it) and don’t make the dinner.
I will more with make sure that the kids are fed, and if there is food left over, I will make it for him whether they have been times when I have made dinner and he just does not want it because he’s moody. There is no appreciation clearly.

 Calling me a &ldquo;Fu<strong>*</strong>** idiot&rdquo; or retard when things go out of hand and we disagree. 

He is working long hours at respectable position, and provides for us, however him being in a paid job makes me feel like I have no say about things around the house and he knows that leaving me in a vulnerable position as I cannot work more than 10 hours a week. I am made feel guilty for working weekends, even though he says he supports me, I just feel uneasy around him. He will say that he is doing a great job at supporting, yet I somehow feel guilt, like my work is a leisure, not a source of income.


Mood swings (often involving the silent treatment or short answers to questions) out of the blue, sometimes with no explanation, and sometimes it later being explained that I did something to upset him

He deliberately stops doing thing around the house - leaves dishes behind, messy kitchen, toys, won't take bins out - if we are on bad terms.

I think he is aware that I'm no longer putting up with it and have messenger abuse charity and spoke to my counsellor, but have not spoken to him yet - I just want to say to him that I'm not happy and it's time to think of a next step. We own our house 50/50 and have made a claim to UC - but it's all early stages.

I am ready to take a leap and get away before we end up on really bad terms, it’s not worth to suffer like this and feel that weight on my shoulders for allowing myself just to have a bit more freedom to myself.

Also, he makes a big deal out of Christmas, but I don't like Christmas Day as it feels lonely, just with him and now 4 of of us.
Yet, when Christmas Day comes, he will
Cook a meal and get drunk, but there is nothing happy about that day really. He does not even get a me a present, but would make a big fuss if I didn't get anything. He classes as him being busy and didn't get anything. It is not the first time and I know it's a part of his stupid behaviour that does hurt me.

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OnlyOpenMouthToChangeFeet · 21/01/2023 15:43

Agii · 21/01/2023 13:21

None of us have family around as I'm from another country, and his Nan isn't quite aware of his behaviour towards me, he will never seem like a controlling person and having done all the good things, he creates a good disguise, but it should not invalidate his controlling / abusive behaviour.
I have told my mum about the latest situation, but she is fully aware that he has hurt me and that things don't always start go wrong with one person involved. She wants us to stay for the children, but fully knows that he isn't fair. I'm sure she will be there if I make a leap.

It's sadly so common - people appear so different in various settings. Just because he provides for me and is a good dad, should not be a disguise for hurting me.

He is NOT a good dad OP!! A good dad would never treat their child's mother so horrifically.

Also, you said in your previous post you wanted to leave before things got really bad. You may not be able to see it (those involved are often the last to see), but you're already there. It can't get much worse, please get out before it does. 💐

KalvinPhillipsBoots · 21/01/2023 15:47

Yes he is controlling and abusive, get rid of him, no one should ever tell you what you can and cannot do.

OnlyOpenMouthToChangeFeet · 21/01/2023 15:52

What is the UC claim about OP? You've said he's a high earner, but is early days on UC claim. Is that just for you and the children, in preparation for you leaving?

Craghopper1 · 21/01/2023 16:02

I find it enormously alarming that you are downplaying this as being mild and 'bickering'. Your husband is extremely abusive OP.

Zanatdy · 21/01/2023 16:12

There is nothing mild about this abuse, it’s abuse pure and simple. Please contact women’s aid and get out of there

Mumto32022 · 21/01/2023 16:22

This is emotional, physical and financial abuse. Absolutely nothing mild about any of this. I’m glad you’re making the next steps to leave. Definitely get out!

ehb102 · 21/01/2023 16:34

Christ, just when I think I have seen everything on Mumsnet. Not mild at all. Take your baby, leave the country and get away from this man.

Agii · 21/01/2023 17:38

OnlyOpenMouthToChangeFeet · 21/01/2023 15:52

What is the UC claim about OP? You've said he's a high earner, but is early days on UC claim. Is that just for you and the children, in preparation for you leaving?

I need UC for preparation of leaving as cannot support myself with full time work and both in childcare. Eldest one is 30 hours at preschool , but if I put my 21 month old in childcare, I couldn't make the money stretch. We definitely need a plan how to be able to split in two households and he will pay child support, will agree on days when children will be with each other. I must admit it's very scary to get out of place I call it home and I've got a roof over head, food, but I wish I had it all without him.

Who is going to complain then? 3 hours here and there or full days and evenings to sort kids out by himself when we separate.

OP posts: