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Hormones or valid emotions?? Feeling forgotten and not seen.

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oceanadventurer · 06/01/2023 19:01

Firstly, can I request no negativity or unkindness? I just need a supportive listener (/reader).

I will try and keep it short 🤞

My partner and I both have similar relationship histories - abusive and neglectful partners. I went through counseling and doesn't feel confident or comfortable too. He has bad anxiety and low self-esteem.

His last relationship broke down just as the first lockdown was being implemented. They decided to cohabit in separate rooms, as her family lived abroad. Once rules allowed, he moved into his parents putting distance between them and giving her time to move out of his house. Our relationship started months after he moved out. He was honest about her and his situation. He showed me text messages of her refusing to leave or even pay rent etc. We sought legal advice and the solicitor's letter finalised a moving out date (a year and a half into our relationship). On said date, she appeared at my house whilst I was alone. She showed me sexting between him and her. She was more forthcoming than him, and he responded with few words. However, 2 explicit photos were shared. She told me that he would go to the house to her before work, but we went to work together every day - she was trying to manipulate parts of the situation. I left my house and a note for him for when he got there. I didn't return for 3 hours. I have never seen someone so broken. He answered every question I had and gave me his phone. He thought if he played along she would be compliant and leave his house. He was physically being sick with anxiety during our conversations. The following day he changed his number and we decided to work it out. I spoke about how I felt every day until I no longer needed to and he always listened, always communicated openly. He worked hard to make amends.

A quick short month later, I fell pregnant. The timing was not ideal so soon after but we were happy. I am now in my 3rd trimester. His anxiety is bad. He is convinced my parents are not happy that he is the father and now doesn't want to see them. I compliment him and he disagrees with it. He reads into things when there is nothing to read into. The mother of his teenage child was controlling and didn't allow him to see their child. Saying the child is better off without him etc. I reassure him that I am proud to raise a child with him.

I am trying to put him first. Build his self-esteem and undo the nastiness of previous girlfriends. But it is hard. When he is struggling, I can't help but analyze if I have done something wrong. My hormones kick in, I get upset and then there is a communication breakdown. I keep having triggers of when she knocked on the door and the whole situation. I haven't told anyone about that day. His parents know and they said they hated her. I feel stuck in how I am meant to be processing everything, whilst growing a child and trying to ease his PTSD.

Argh!

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AnneLovesGilbert · 06/01/2023 19:09

You’re about to have a baby, you have to stop putting him first and trying to fix him, you’ve got to start putting yourself, your baby and your future first.

What’s done is done and you’re obviously feeling very low and vulnerable so all I’ll say other than that is I hope your family are supportive and around to prop you up and pick up the pieces if needed. Please be honest with your midwife about how upset you’re feeling.

Mabelface · 06/01/2023 19:17

If he truly loves you, then he needs to get his arse to the gp. You're not a repair shop for broken men. If he refuses to get help, then you really need to look at your options.

oceanadventurer · 06/01/2023 19:27

Thank you both for your replies @AnneLovesGilbert and @Mabelface 💖

I agree, what is done is done. I chose to stay with him and work through it. We both acknowledged it wouldn't be easy or something to be forgotten about just like that.

I also agree that he needs to go to the GP, but not because he loves me, because he wants to do it. You can't make people seek help for the sake of others. He has to be ready to and it has to be for him. Recovery is hard enough, let alone putting added pressure on yourself to do it for others.

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Dery · 06/01/2023 19:52

“Recovery is hard enough, let alone putting added pressure on yourself to do it for others.”

But OP - the needs and wishes of our loved ones are often the motivation for change. You and he are about to become parents so it’s not just about him or you. He needs to get his act together. Don’t shield him from that.

MiddleOfTheNightAgain · 06/01/2023 19:56

Don’t let him separate you from your family OP. He sounds manipulative and untrustworthy.

Basically remember that he has a lot of issues and it sounds like you’re pretty stable. Don’t let him taint you with his stuff.

oceanadventurer · 06/01/2023 20:06

@MiddleOfTheNightAgain thank-you for your reply. He hasnt separated me from my family. He talks about them and my nieces/nephews and sister come round and my Mum, but physically seeing my Dad makes his anxiety go through the roof and he overanalyzes everything in his company - I.e. "Is he good enough?" "Did he sound stupid in what he said?" etc. My Dad can be overprotective and sometimes forgets I'm in my 30s and talks to me like I am under his roof still.

@Dery thank you. Things need to change, I know that. It is just the suitable methods of changing which wont push him too far.

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Sausagelove · 06/01/2023 20:59

What you seem to be saying is that since he’s been caught sending dirty pictures to his ex he’s been playing the victim. Of course he doesn’t feel comfortable around your dad after what he’s done.

Every victim needs a persecutor and it sounds like that’s what’s happening with him reading things into stuff playing poor me. He probably does feel victimised as he’s suffered a huge loss of image .

Victims can be manipulative and abusive. Only you know if he is truly reading things into something or if he is gaslighting you. Either way you should not be putting him first or building his self esteem. He should be supporting you instead of wallowing like this. If there are issues from previous relationships that’s his responsibility to deal with that, not yours.

Cheating is a type of emotional abuse. Many cheaters are also emotionally abusive in other ways. It’s all about him isn't it.

Unananana · 06/01/2023 21:01

Women are not rehabs for men.

Your child should be your priority right now. What sort of environment would this be for them?

Seaoftroubles · 06/01/2023 21:40

OP, so just to clarify, your relationship started just a few months after his relationship had broken down? And he'd moved out to live with his parents, leaving his ex partner in his house, which she refused to leave. How long had they been together, was it his house or jointly owned, and did she have somewhere to go? It would seem he was still in a relationship with her when you got together as there was proof of sexting and shared intimate photos, plus other allegations from her.
It all sounds very odd, especially as you mention he also has a teenage child and the mother refuses him contact. Not a good sign!
Meanwhile he sees himself as a victim and is anxious and needy, and scared of your Dad's poor opinion of him, whiIst you are coping with pregnancy and also trying to build up his confidence! Tbh I don't blame your Dad, there are red flags all over the shop here regarding your partners behaviour. Please put yourself first, lean on your parents and stop pandering to him. He needs to support you at this time and stop making everything about himself.

Nimbostratus100 · 06/01/2023 21:45

What makes you think he has PTSD?

crazycrypty · 06/01/2023 21:49

Unananana · 06/01/2023 21:01

Women are not rehabs for men.

Your child should be your priority right now. What sort of environment would this be for them?

This.

Shoxfordian · 06/01/2023 21:56

He sounds like a loser; why did you get back with him or get involved in such a mess? It’s not your job to fix him

Hevviie · 06/01/2023 22:06

Congratulations on your baby, is it your first? It will be such a monumental change for both of you, it's almost not worth assessing things now because everything will change once you give birth - it might be the making of him? Or it might go the other direction, you just don't know. Pregnancy is a time where you tend to dwell on things but you soon will not have the luxury of such time! Try not to put it on the back burner as much as possible and focus on your baby. On the plus side - you soon will have someone in your life that you will love more than anyone in the world, more than you knew was possible x

Hevviie · 06/01/2023 22:08

*try TO put it on the back burner - sorry!

Patioheat · 07/01/2023 19:10

Am I being over sensitive?
Been married for just over a year. Quiet, private wedding which I was quite happy with.
DH was previously married and the ExW still features prominently in our lives. They had a big social life and lots of mutual friends that they now see separately but her name comes up all the time due to (understandably) shared history. ExW remains close to his family and I know they still see quite a bit of her. Trying to not let that bother me as it’s unreasonable to think she should become persona non gratis just because I have appeared on the scene. DSD’s are older and difficult- but with everyone, not just me. Moved into the family home (which she left five years ago, way before we met) which hasn’t been the best plan and we’re planning to move- I’ve given it my best shot but I still feel like the ghost at the feast sometimes. She knows a lot about me I think given all the mutual relationships and it makes me feel a little off.

Anyway- lots of background which I also find hard to discuss with DH- he’s supportive to a point but finds conflict difficult which makes it hard for me to speak up when something bothers me. No worries that he’s still hankering after her per se- but I often feel like I’m living her second hand life and I have second hand status. I rarely bring it up as I worry I’m just being over sensitive and understand everyone has a past (including me)
Something happened today- and it’s not the first time it’s happened. We bumped into old childhood friends of his who haven’t seen him for 20 years or so. Introduced me as my name but not as his wife. They were clearly confused and had to do a bit of digging around circumstances. When I told them we were married they were full of congratulations etc and made a remark along the lines of “ahh, we didn’t know- you should have told us”.
My DH screwed his face up, looked awkward and said something like (I’m paraphrasing) … well, it’s a second marriage, we didn’t want to make a fuss. He then went on to mention ExW and how they had parted ways some years ago (sure they had worked this out for themselves)
They then clearly felt sorry for me and overcompensated by being lovely and asking to see a wedding photo- which he showed them, somewhat reluctantly. I feel hurt, angry and belittled by the lack of respect of DH. I love him to pieces and want to shout the fact that we’re married from the rooftops (although I don’t, obviously) Am I being massively oversensitive here? I haven’t said anything to him as also don’t like conflict but have a horrible, nagging feeling that won’t subside and a sense that I’m worth more than being introduced as a footnote. It was almost like he was embarrassed.

Patioheat · 07/01/2023 19:14

So sorry- thought I was posting a new thread- now have done so- please ignore!

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