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Proposal joke?!

43 replies

MeltedRose · 30/12/2022 15:49

Help!

My partner who I have been with for nearly 5 years has recently disrespected me and I am struggling with it.

Before I go into it, just let you know that me and him had no intentions of marriage but he is very very against marriage.

Back in October we went to an wedding, throughout the wedding he kept mentioning that I am his future wife and that he will propose soon. This caught me by surprise so I acted normal, pretending I didn’t hear anything even though it was in front of me with groups of people.
Around this time my rings went missing, you can only imagine what I was thinking. At first I wasn’t sure about if I were to say yes if he was going to ask but as months went on, the more I thought about it, the more likely it actually changed to a yes. That change is huge since I struggle to trust people and did not think marriage would be possible. I thought maybe he changed his mind without telling me and the wedding vibe got him going. He was completely sober at this wedding.

For December he planned a few Christmas light walks so I thought is this when he’s gonna it? No it wasn’t. Then I thought Christmas Day…. It wasn’t. After watching TV when couple got engaged, I said to him “if you ever propose to me I don’t mind what ring it is… onion ring, party ring, doughnut ring my answer would probably be yes.” and that’s when everything changed. He told me that he never wants to marry me.

We spent few days arguing because he strongly doesn’t remember saying about proposal to me and even accused me of making it up. In the past when I told him stuff that he didn’t believe, he would always say I made it up until someone got proof. He eventually asked the people who witnessed him if what I said was true, they confirmed it was.
He hasn’t said sorry for anything as he think he doesn’t owe anything as it was my mind that created something in my head that wasn’t going to happen.

I trusted him, trusted him enough to think about marrying him and he only said it as a joke at a wedding to be less awkward. Who does that? It is okay to be unmarried at weddings. He could of told everybody the truth but he didn’t. Now he’s acting like nothing happened and wants us to move on. He wants children with me and future with me.

How do I believe him with anything? I feel like I don’t trust him in same way. Half the people I told says i should walk away because I deserve better. The other half thinks I should try to trust him again and move on despite the fact he massively embarrassed me.

I feel like a idiot and I wish I could just get on a plane, fly away from this.

Has anyone been in this situation? What should I do?

OP posts:
RandomPerson42 · 30/12/2022 17:43

Kick him the fuck out

isthismylifenow · 30/12/2022 17:45

Do he wants to have children with you, but doesn't want to marry you?

This is quite an important factor which you need to think about OP.

Why is he so against marriage though?

MadMadMadamMim · 30/12/2022 17:46

I would walk away. Ultimately, you want different things in life. You want respect from a partner.

He wants you to have children with him, which will affect your life/career - but is not prepared to make any commitment to you at all and doesn't think he owes you anything. Not even basic manners, apparently.

CantGetDecentNickname · 30/12/2022 17:51

Please don't have DC with a man you are not married to as you stand to lose out career wise and financially. It sounds as though he would be fine with that happening, please don't let it.

Clearly you would have liked to have had a proposal so recommend moving on and finding someone who shares your views. He has lied to you and gas lit you which does not bode well for a future with him.

Did you get your rings back?

MeltedRose · 30/12/2022 17:53

thank you everyone for your comments and I have made an decision to move on with my life without him.

My rings were found about week later after I kept looking for them in which he didn’t help me find them. Of course he claims he had nothing to do with them.

At the wedding when no one was around, I did immediately talk to him about marriage and he told me his dream wedding. This happened after he called me his wife and told people he was going to proposal.

my family said he’s gaslighting me and is in support to help me move on.

I do appreciate all of your time to comment.

OP posts:
Frazzledmummy123 · 30/12/2022 17:57

This is just horrible! I am so sorry OP 💐

I am rather concerned and curious about him denying he said it. Deliberate gaslighting is bad enough, but does he genuinely believe he didn't say it? The fact he even asked people who witnessed what he said at the wedding makes me wonder if he actually does believe he didn't say it. Has he any other history of this, or of mental health issues? I am also feeling quite uncomfortable about the fact he has been told by others who saw it that you are right, yet is STILL continuing to not take any ownership of causing upset and is still denying it. This is not normal behaviour. It is quite narcissitic and selfish.

This would make me seriously consider walking. Easier said than done I know after all this time, and especially after recently having that false hope (which was totally his fault) that you were going to get somewhere with him. Personally I couldn't be with someone who won't commit or who thinks their recent behaviour acceptable.

You need to have a make or break talk to him, and decide if the outcome of this conversation is what you want out of life.

Frazzledmummy123 · 30/12/2022 17:59

MeltedRose · 30/12/2022 17:53

thank you everyone for your comments and I have made an decision to move on with my life without him.

My rings were found about week later after I kept looking for them in which he didn’t help me find them. Of course he claims he had nothing to do with them.

At the wedding when no one was around, I did immediately talk to him about marriage and he told me his dream wedding. This happened after he called me his wife and told people he was going to proposal.

my family said he’s gaslighting me and is in support to help me move on.

I do appreciate all of your time to comment.

Sorry, crossposted. Just read your update. The part about telling you his dream wedding??! In all honesty, he sounds a bit twisted! I think you are going to be well rid of this headf**k.

All the best!

KettrickenSmiled · 30/12/2022 17:59

Well done OP, & I'm glad you have your family's support.

Beware Hoovering - given your update just now, your STBEx is a fucking headcase, & you've found out in enough time to protect yourself from him. Imagine what having DC by him would have been like ... constant lies, evasions, lack of accountability ... using them to gaslight & triangulate you with ... he is horrible, putting you through that bloody performance at the wedding.

lonerwolf.com/hoovering/

isthismylifenow · 30/12/2022 18:01

MeltedRose · 30/12/2022 17:53

thank you everyone for your comments and I have made an decision to move on with my life without him.

My rings were found about week later after I kept looking for them in which he didn’t help me find them. Of course he claims he had nothing to do with them.

At the wedding when no one was around, I did immediately talk to him about marriage and he told me his dream wedding. This happened after he called me his wife and told people he was going to proposal.

my family said he’s gaslighting me and is in support to help me move on.

I do appreciate all of your time to comment.

I think for you this is the best move.

If he's pulled this stunt about the wedding, just be prepared for some dick moves from him regarding the break up.

You sound like you have good family support and I wish you luck going forward.

Christmasnero · 30/12/2022 18:07

Gosh there’s an awful lots of stuff you’re ‘making up’ in your own head isn’t there? Outside sources have backed you, but nope, you’re definitely still just making it up. Making up that he said it. Making up what it means. Making stuff up all over the place. Because he says so. And his truth is the only one that matters.

I couldn’t be with a man that accused me of lying about stuff so much and had so little regard for my opinions, thoughts or feelings. Nevermind the not wanting to marry me thing.

i assume since he won’t take any blame he’s not even managed a ‘im sorry I did anything that may have confused you, and hurt your feelings’ right? Even that sort of apology that doesn’t take the blame but just recognises your feelings? That would cost him nothing, he doesn’t even have to admit he’s wrong. But I bet he won’t even do that. Because you being upset doesn’t actually bother him.

Christmasnero · 30/12/2022 18:08

Cross post, sorry
so glad you’ve come to that decision and you’ve got family support
well done and good luck

Joshitai · 30/12/2022 18:16

category12 · 30/12/2022 17:41

The horrible bit was him completely denying he'd ever said those things at the wedding.

He has form for poor memory.

Joshitai · 30/12/2022 18:18

At the wedding when no one was around, I did immediately talk to him about marriage and he told me his dream wedding. This happened after he called me his wife and told people he was going to proposal.

Just seen your update, and he was definitely gaslighting you. I take back the fantasy comments as it was definitely more than what was in your OP.

category12 · 30/12/2022 18:29

Joshitai · 30/12/2022 18:16

He has form for poor memory.

Dunno where you got that from, I don't see it in the OP. He does have form for telling OP she's making stuff up and making her prove she isn't.

Aquamarine1029 · 30/12/2022 19:17

He wants children with me and future with me.

You would have to be insane to stay with this utter cunt of a man. Please listen to your friends and family. Run for your life.

Iwannabeacrocodilehunter · 30/12/2022 21:30

What a horrible and cruel man. There are better out there, so time for an upgrade.

Ofcourseshecan · 30/12/2022 21:40

In the past when I told him stuff that he didn’t believe, he would always say I made it up until someone got proof.

That is weird and wrong in itself. Sounds as if this isn't the first time he has tried gaslighting you. He must like throwing you off balance, keeping you uncertain and doubting yourself. He's got a nasty controlling streak there.

I wouldn't stay or have children with him, even if he did agree to marriage.

Opentooffers · 30/12/2022 22:11

It's going nowhere, no marriage, no DC. You see, if he's not married he gets to walk away from any DC far too easily.
Overall, he's a future-faker. Best to move on as one day you could find you have wasted your years with nothing to show for them.

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