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Ex used to hit me

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Aly321 · 28/12/2022 19:00

My ex used to hit me. We have dc. Not badly, never left any marks, but he did hit. It was during an argument that he would punch, slap, kick, push or shove. Sometimes he would instead punch walls, punch furniture, throw things, smash his phone, smash through doors, mirrors, walls. Only when he is angry. But he would do it in front of dc. He never thought he needed anger management and would never get it. He blamed me for it. He said no one sees him as an angry man, he is only angry because I make him angry and I bring out this side to him that no one else would see or expect of him. I never used to cause huge arguments, I just used to bring up stuff I’m unhappy with, like him not helping much with kids or disagreeing with him. But apparently it was all my fault that he would act that way.

he would also smash his game controller if he loses as his PlayStation game and told me this is normal for men to do this when they lose at games.

I told my parents about this at the time and they would say don’t make him angry, don’t provoke him, don’t start an argument with him, stay quiet, why are you bringing up things that would cause an argument, he’s your husband so you need to work it out, it’s normal for couples to fight you have to get on with it etc etc.

I have also discussed this with colleagues and they tell me this is abusive and no man should ever hit you.

I’m so confused, I feel my understanding of relationships is so distorted. Note, he is now my ex, but I don’t know if I should have been more tolerant of his behaviour like I was taught to be?

OP posts:
paintitallover · 28/12/2022 23:16

He is an abuser.

VisaGeezer · 29/12/2022 08:33

Your mother is nuts.

Your parents relationship was/I'd abusive.

People and situations outside the home - work, travel, driving, queuing, socialising in busy places etc can be stressful and irritating for all of us; How many times have your ex and father been arrested or disciplined or got into trouble for hitting people and breaking things outside the home? How many times have they hit, kicked ot destroyed the belongings of a man who was as big or bigger than them, or clashed violently with someone who could make some consequences happen, like the police or their boss?
I'm betting rarely if at all.

Dependant, physically weaker females and kids are a nice easy, sift target to make them feel like big men, and express any aggression they feel about any issue - safely, with no threat or consequence to themselves. It also creates a little dictatorship of a household with everyone scared of him, on egg shells around him, him never challenged, always getting his way, never having to pul his weight fully.

Smashing up your own gaming controller is the action of a spoilt immature temper tantrumming brat. And your family money was no doubt going to replace it.

Read Lundy Bancroft "why does he do that .."

Maybe do the Freedom Program.

Speak to WA..

VisaGeezer · 29/12/2022 08:37

Not provoking someone so they don't hit you or smash belongings makes you into a subservient slave, held to ransom by violence (or the threat of violence). That is why abusive men do it (as well as being able to really enjoy themselves throwing their weight around and venting any aggression they may have against people who won't smack them back or hurt them).

Your mother has not ever twigged the truth. She has swallowed the bullshit.
She had brainwashed you with the bullshit.
Part of growing up fully is the sad realisation that our parents are often deeply flawed, and can be wrong in many of their opinions. It's that time for you.

VisaGeezer · 29/12/2022 08:41

www.docdroid.net/2fZmz40/why-does-he-do-that-pdf

Fairislefandango · 29/12/2022 08:45

Your mother is wrong, and although she may have tolerated the abuse from your father, it's an absolute disgrace that she advised you to do the same.

Blaming you for 'making him angry' is absolute classic abuser behaviour and it's utter bollocks. He hit you because he's a nasty, violent, abusive prick. Well done for getting away from him, but you need to fully realise and accept that you were not at fault.

VisaGeezer · 29/12/2022 08:52

If you read that book - "Mythology" (myths about abusive men) and "The types of Abusivd men" are two good places to get stuck in.

Lundy Bancroft's worked in court ordered counselling for abusive men for about 15 yrs before writing that book. He saif he and his colleagues went in all full of ideals and believing some of the myths. After 15 yrs they saw through the myths and they came to the conclusion that the vast majority of abusive men never change and cannot be changed. All they ever got from them was excuses, lies and manipulation.

He's also written a book about abusive men as parents, which might be very useful in your situation.

category12 · 29/12/2022 08:56

Sadly your upbringing in a home with domestic violence set you up to have the same sort of relationship. Your parents defended him because otherwise they'd have to face up to what they exposed you to.

You've done the right thing leaving him, and are doing far better for your children than your parents did for you. You are breaking the cycle and showing them

JanglyBeads · 29/12/2022 09:19

Yes I'd second @VisaGeezer 's recommendation of Lundy Bancroft's book about abusive dads - "When Dad Hurts Mom"

VisaGeezer · 29/12/2022 09:32

Also this;

lundybancroft.com/articles/the-batterer-as-parent/

CharlotteCollinsneeLucas · 29/12/2022 09:47

Definitely do not take him back. Those were excellent instincts that led to you leaving.

Also be aware that you are more likely to end up with abusive men in the future and less likely to spot the red flags. So I would suggest being single, say for five years, and doing the Freedom Programme before considering dating again.

JanglyBeads · 29/12/2022 10:38

Oh yes had forgotten that. Although you kind of need an Anglo/American legal terms dictionary to understand parts of it

PearlclutchersInc · 29/12/2022 10:46

You are kidding (I know you're not, of course...) Your parents have really done a good job of screwing you up.

Decent human beings do not behave like that and don't blame others for that behaviour either.

Well done on escaping.

ShinyHappyTits · 29/12/2022 22:23

Anonuser456 · 28/12/2022 19:43

I have a 2.5 year old who was mainly witness to it. He is fine now. I also have a 2 month old. We split just very recently as he was absolutely useless support being newly postpartum. He was laying in bed all morning having lie ins during his paternity leave whilst I was attending to the kids. And in arguments was throwing things around, smashing, breaking things etc.

I’ve never told a professional. In fact I’ve not really told any one other than my parents and some colleagues

i don’t have therapy, I am still very confused whether the split was appropriate or whether I should try get him back because I’m conditioned into believing it’s not that bad

Dear OP. I would put my arms around you if I were there because I am so sad that you can’t see how much this is not your fault.
It is never, never acceptable to use violence in any relationship, be it man or woman. Had you not left, it would continue and probably escalate.

There are arguments in any relationship and there are healthy ways to express frustration and anger. They never involve smashing things or being violent the other person, yelling at them, making them feel frightened and never, NEVER happen in front of DC.

You have done exactly the right thing by putting your children first and make sure they grow up knowing abusive behaviour is not acceptable in a relationship (or ever)

You have been so strong and brave in leaving this relationship and even though you will continue to question whether you have done the right thing, think of what you’d advise your daughter to do in this situation. Would you want her husband to scream at her, to lose control and be violent towards her? To smash possessions in front of her? Please do look into the Freedom program as others have suggested.

Carry on putting one foot in front of the other. We are here for you 💐

StarDolphins · 29/12/2022 22:27

Sorry but shame on your parents, why on earth would they say this. If my DD even hinting at any person hurting/hitting her I would say it’s abuse & to run away ver very quickly.

if your children grow up with abuse & anger they’re more likely to either copy it or accept it in their future.

he is best placed as an ex, well done.

Hbh17 · 29/12/2022 22:30

It is not normal or common for men to hit women. Ever. Under any circumstances. Your partner and your father are both abusers. Your mother has been abused too, but she is still wrong in what she says to you.

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