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Warspite · 25/12/2022 09:04

Am I the only one with a partner who is absolutely useless when I am poorly?

We are an older couple, no kids at home etc. Just each other to worry about. We don’t live together but spend a lot of time in each other’s home. I’ve just helped my DP move house. It’s been exhausting.

I am a collaborator, team worker, put shoulder to the wheel type of partner. I don’t shirk responsibility in our relationship. I’m solution orientated, contingency planner & organised.

My DP was very very ill post operatively earlier this year. It was touch and go whether he would pull through. I nursed him lovingly & tenderly for several weeks until he could stand on his own two feet.
Three nourishing meals a day, lots of encouragement & even through Covid during his convalescence I got out of bed & carried on looking after him albeit I was really unwell. He also had Covid so it was a real struggle to keep going.

When I am poorly, he is absolutely useless. I’ve had two viruses in the past nine years which have flattened me & I’ve had to take to my bed. I’m in bed now feeling absolutely dreadful with a head cold, throat, headache, all the usual. I’m sure you’ll get the picture as there is so much of it about.

Anyway, I was furious with him yesterday because as usual when I’m under the weather, bed ridden or not, he simply doesn’t have a clue about looking after me. I almost have to beg for food to be prepared and either brought to
me, be it in bed or to the couch. Yesterday he managed 2 mugs of tea & some tinned soup. In the end, after a massive argument he managed to pull together an evening meal. It was pretty rubbish but I was on my knees so was glad of some sustenance.

This man has worked away all his adult life and is now retired.
This man has had to domestically fend and feed himself in company provided flats, most of that time. This man adequately feeds himself when I am not staying at his place. He is reasonably domesticated and knows how a hob and oven works. Our fridge is currently full with all sorts of meal combinations and possibilities.

What worries me is this - if I became really ill post operatively, for example during chemo, any serious illness, I don’t think I can count on him to help me get well with any TLC and it’s making me resentful. Yesterday I kicked off and was accused of being a Diva, was shouted at and generally made extremely upset at his appalling attitude when I’m at a very low ebb.

He is very defensive when I try to talk like an adult with him after our disagreements and basically shuts me down. I’m not sure what to do. On every other way we get along and have lots in common but this selfish side of him worries me.

Im sure there re others out there who are in the same boat so what is the solution?

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Usernameisunavailable · 25/12/2022 09:18

He sounds very selfish and a user. He can cook for himself perfectly well by the sound of it, but he can’t be arsed to support you when you’re ill. Your Christmas present to yourself could be to get rid of this selfish, inconsiderate man. You said you are older, do you really want to spend your later years looking after him when he can’t be bothered to return the favour?

Sparklfairy · 25/12/2022 09:25

I think I'd be biding my time until he was ill again, make a point of not looking after him as usual and then dump him!

CharlotteCollinsneeLucas · 25/12/2022 09:30

There is no solution which involves staying with him.

Sorry, OP.

Warspite · 25/12/2022 09:38

Thanks for responding. My boundaries are set too low and I know this. I’ll bide my time and when Christmas is over and he’s hoping for help to settle into his new home I’ll stay at arms length and not be so willing to jump in and help. I’ve packed boxes, heaved boxes, pushed boxes around and unpacked boxes and cleaned his old place before the move last week. I’m very tired and not young.
I know I need to put some distance between us and get a life which doesn’t revolve around him. We’ve been together a long time and I enjoy his company but this useless, selfish side of him worries me.

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Bananalanacake · 25/12/2022 12:01

Well done on not letting him live with you.

bluebell34567 · 25/12/2022 12:15

when you do something good for somebody dont expect you will get the same, you can get disappointed.

CharlotteCollinsneeLucas · 25/12/2022 15:16

Yeah, if you keep him at arm's length it could work: company for you, on your terms.

Could be a good step towards building a fulfilling life without him...

Needthisjob · 26/12/2022 07:21

CharlotteCollinsneeLucas · 25/12/2022 09:30

There is no solution which involves staying with him.

Sorry, OP.

Of course there is. It's called talking about it.

MintJulia · 26/12/2022 07:29

This is a man who won't accept that he is wrong, expects to being waited on and feels no responsibility for you at all. He won't change.

Millions of women fail to look after themselves every year, because they are too busy looking after lazy selfish entitled men like this.

Please, spend 2023 putting you first. Tell him bluntly why he is no longer welcome. Rest, treat yourself, give yourself a break, pay attention to YOUR needs. xx

kingtamponthefurred · 26/12/2022 07:47

It seems he finds your housekeeping services useful, but does not really care about you as a person. This is sad, but at least now you know.

JamNittyGritty · 26/12/2022 07:59

You mention that he fends for himself when he is alone but when you are both well and together, does he share with the cooking, drink making, clearing up etc, or do you do it all? If the latter then maybe you need to start with the expectation that he takes an equal share of the cooking etc. when you spend time together- this MAY help him to understand that this is a part of partnership and as much his role as yours, irrespective of wellness.

Afterfire · 26/12/2022 08:28

What is he eating when it’s just him? If he’s surviving on pot noodles and toast it might be that he’s generally thoughtless rather than useless (both not good though)!

I have to be honest- I’m disabled and have chronic health issues and I think men are pretty useless when it comes to caring for others in the same way women tend to. They will do the minimum required but they just don’t think of others in the same way. And it’s shit. I’m not saying “it’s men” to excuse them, I’m saying it’s awful. I’ve been married twice and I’m quite old now and it’s been a recurring thing I’ve seen throughout my life - in mine and every surrounding relationship. I think that’s why so many older women end up living (happily) alone.

Warspite · 26/12/2022 09:23

Thanks to you all for your perspective on my issue.

When he’s on his own I have noticed, since he was so poorly last spring, that he relies more and more on ready meals. Not Pot Noodles or too much toast though.

I would say he’s never been “food driven” so can go for hours without eating albeit he enjoys his grub when he gets it. (Well he would wouldn’t he esp when I prepare it!)

I am a good tasty cook so my meals are made from scratch and naturally we both enjoy that. I guess I’m just more food orientated and when you’re lying in bed, something hot on a tray is a welcome diversion. My appetite never seems to wane when I’m under the weather unless it’s vertigo but that’s another story!

He did finally produce something for me after our row on Christmas Eve but it was badly prepared and ruined really through lack of care. I ate it because it was hot and I was hungry not having eaten anything for over five hours. The row made me distraught when I felt so disadvantaged by being poorly. I’m not out of the woods yet and still in bed. (Got up yesterday to help with Christmas lunch but fell back into bed very early!)

He does help clear up after food preparation and he does prep’ the veg when we are together so it’s not all bad.

Overall I would describe him as kind and he is not tight with money and does treat me to meals out often enough. It’s just this worry about how he would treat me if I was post operative, really ill some time or just need him to take the lead during a recovery from something weakening.

Im biding my time but there were other issues in the late summer I’m still recovering from so I’ve got a lot of thinking to do.

Such a shame that I’ve let this guy into my life after so many previous years of post divorce singledom, was love bombed & fell for it, nearly 10 years ago. I’ve invested a lot in him emotionally and physically, dropped my draw bridge post divorce but over the years have uncovered his true colours. I’m no saint but I’m loyal, supportive and wouldn’t let a fly pitch on him. I just wish he wasn’t so selfish when I really need him to take the lead and look after me.

Are there others out there who can see my dilemma? It’s not all black and white is it?

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Ofbollocks · 26/12/2022 09:40

I'd think the answer is to step back. Start to do so much more without him. Do no more work and cooking for him. As you live separately, it should be easier. This will give you the perspective you need. You will either miss him terribly and the things he does do for you, or you will re discover your own life and strength and wonder why it took you so long to dump him.

Clymene · 26/12/2022 09:49

Unfortunately it's really not unusual. Men are something like six times more likely to dump their partner if they have cancer than women are.

Warspite · 26/12/2022 14:09

Clymene:

Really? That’s a terrible indictment of men’s attitude to illness.

I have a friend who had breast cancer & was going through brutal treatment. Her husband wouldn’t even get up in the morning to fetch her painkillers and a cuppa first thing. Latterly he took really ill and passed away. Given his lack of support for her at her lowest ebb, she does not mourn him. Shame really as at first it was a late love match and they only had six years of marriage.

Im going to give myself time to properly get over this wretched virus & not rush to help further settling in to his new house. I just can’t face it and now feel ambivalent about the entire project; curtains, carpets, changes to be made. Why should I be bothered when he’s been so cavalier with me when I needed some TLC? The future is looking decidedly clouded at present. He was most unpleasant to me on Christmas Eve when I kicked off about his lack of help with something on a tray to eat on the settee. (Not even to be brought to my bed!)
Thanks all for grounding and supporting me. Relationships however “old” we are are never straightforward are they?

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