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Drunken kiss(?) Help!

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RVD01 · 21/12/2022 20:29

This is very long I apologise, if anyone is able to read it I would be so grateful. I am in a crisis:

I am in a fantastic relationship with my girlfriend of a year, we are incredibly happy and I know she is the one I want to spend my life with, she is the one and I love her dearly.

Before we got together I was in a rubbish relationship in which my ex had a long term affair (found out after she left me). After that ended I looked forward to dating and going out and meeting with/kissing/sleeping with people as I had never really done that much and had always really been in a relationship.

I signed up for a dating app, and within a couple of weeks had matched with my current girlfriend. We met up, and I quickly realised that she was great and I wanted to carry on seeing her, and I decided to not date anyone else. At the time I had thoughts that I hadn't really experienced single life all that much but I was so enamoured by this girl I just assumed those thoughts would diminish. I did consider ending it very early on just to be single for a bit but she was so fantastic I thought it would be crazy to let her go and so committed myself to her.

Our relationship blossomed and developed into a truly happy one and we are building a life, planning to live together, talking about marriage and kids one day etc, it really is my dream come true after being so unhappy in previous relationships, I feel so so lucky to have met her.

However, I hate myself for this but now and then that niggling feeling would creep into my mind - "should I have stayed single longer and got it out of my system", "am I missing out on being single and free before settling down" etc. These thoughts would be much stronger when I had had a few drinks (when my girlfriend wasn't with me).

I have always had a poor relationship with alcohol and binge drinking, in particular knowing when to stop, and on countless occasions ended up completely blind/blackout drunk. My sober rational mind knows that I am in an incredible relationship and I constantly have happy thoughts of the future with my girlfriend, but those stupid, single-y thoughts were at the back of my mind.

Last weekend, I met up with some friends that I hadn't seen in ages for drinks, and ended up (again) getting horrendously drunk (cannot remember much of the second half of the night). A girl I was talking to via text around the same time I initially matched with my girlfriend and was potentially going to go on a date with (but I chose not to because I started seeing my girlfriend and didn't want to date other people at the same time) was out as well and was also drunk. We talked, and in my complete blind drunk state in the early hours I flirted with her. I am not 100% sure but at one point we may have kissed briefly. I cannot exactly remember doing so but I feel so guilty I feel I must have, the memories are very blurry/non-existent.

Nothing went further than this, I went home shortly afterwards, too drunk to even realise and appreciate what had really gone on I was in such a state.

I woke up in absolute and complete horror at the thought I had cheated but not really remembering the actual events. Since then I have been in absolute mental torture with guilt, have barely eaten or slept, and have quite frankly felt the worst I have ever felt, it has completely torn me apart. I deeply, deeply hated myself for doing this and putting my relationship in jeopardy, and have been frantically searching the internet for advice, reading about people who have been in a similar position. Some people said to confess, but a lot said to use the guilt to finally rid yourself of the alcohol and commit to never doing it again.

With regards to the potential for her finding out, my friend saw us flirting and I found out the next day was annoyed at me, but I have spoken with him and he says he does understand, he is a loyal friend and it would not come from him. I do not have any contact with the girl herself (friends on Facebook however), but out lives have only ever crossed on very few nights out (which will not be happening again). She doesn't know my partner.

I actually believe my partner would forgive me if I were to tell her because we have such a brilliant relationship and so much hope for the future, but the thought of tarnishing the relationship and causing her pain is just so so incredibly horrible that I don't feel I can do that to her, or to us.

After a lot of panicked thinking and soul-searching I just about got my thoughts in order, and realised the reason this happened is firstly those idiotic thoughts about missing out on being single, and secondly my ability to get into a completely blackout state when drinking. The combination of those two things was in my case catastrophic.

This happening has led me to realise that these thoughts of fear of missing out on being single and getting drunk and meeting girls in town were so so stupid and that is of course not at all what I ever want, I want to be with my fantastic partner and have a happy life together. I can honestly say those thoughts are out of my system and I will NEVER EVER have them again. The thought is now abhorrent to me and I can't believe I thought that, but from reading a bit about it thoughts like that can be common for people sometimes apparently (like cold feet sort of thing??)

It has also led me to seriously look at my relationship with alcohol. I have known for a while that I cannot handle alcohol in those crazy quantities well, I completely change and lose myself, however alcohol is a horrible and cunning thing and I kept convincing myself I could control it and I would be "fine this time" (clearly not). This is the final straw for me and I will NEVER EVER get drunk again, that is certain. I do have the ablilty to have a couple of drinks and no more, for example share a bottle of wine with my girlfriend which we do often, but I may even stop this tbh I am so disgusted with the way I acted with alcohol in my system.

After reading a million threads and comments on the internet, I eventually confided in my mum (who also loves my partner), and her opinion was very similar to a lot of the comments, that I should not tell her, be glad that I didn't go any further and do something incredibly stupid, STOP DRINKING AND GETTING DRUNK, and commit to being the man she knows I really am, a good man and a good partner and future husband, put the whole thing behind me and forget about it, and work on those things, committing to doing those things and being the best I can be to my partner.

I feel like this may be the way to go, I just feel so so incredibly guilty and I was terrified and despairing at the thought that I might feel this intense guilt forever. Reading other threads has made me realise it will subside and I could live a happy life, whilst recognising that it will never fully go.

However I do now see that as a good thing, which was hard to see but with the help of my mum I do - I feel like my regret will forever make me remember what happens to me when I get blackout drunk, and ensure I never get like that again as I may get cravings again I'm sure, and make me forever appreciate my partner and remind that commitment to her and monogamy are what is important to me, and that the grass is not greener on the single and free side of the fence.

To anyone that has read this I thank you, if you wish to comment on it please do, I fully accept if you wish to berate me and tell me I am terrible, I guarantee I have thought much worse of myself since it happened. But I hope you don't think I am as terrible a person as I thought I was. Thank you very much.

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DosCervezas · 21/12/2022 20:56

Looks like you've taken full responsibility for what's happened and feel a sufficient amount of guilt to make sure it doesn't happen again.
It was a stupid mistake which is pretty minor in the grand scheme I would say, so don't beat yourself up too much. Once is a mistake, twice is a behaviour pattern and you can't blame alcohol again if there's ever a next time.

Moser85 · 21/12/2022 21:36

It has also led me to seriously look at my relationship with alcohol. I have known for a while that I cannot handle alcohol in those crazy quantities well, I completely change and lose myself, however alcohol is a horrible and cunning thing and I kept convincing myself I could control it and I would be "fine this time" (clearly not). This is the final straw for me and I will NEVER EVER get drunk again, that is certain. I do have the ablilty to have a couple of drinks and no more, for example share a bottle of wine with my girlfriend which we do often, but I may even stop this tbh I am so disgusted with the way I acted with alcohol in my system.

Every problem drinker has said that they'll never drink/get drunk again. It's easy to say that when the guilt is so fresh but after some time passes, these thoughts creep back in again and again. (I kept convincing myself I could control it and I would be "fine this time" (clearly not).

What is your plan for when those thoughts creep back in?

RVD01 · 21/12/2022 22:12

Thank you so much for your reply, that is a very good point and I completely understand and agree. I can honestly say that this has affected me so much I will forever remind myself of how I got into the situation (getting drunk) and avoid it. I have informed my family and friends (and also my girlfriend) of my intentions with regard to controlling my drinking. I am seriously considering complete abstinence, as that may be the only safe way I can guarantee I will avoid it again.

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RVD01 · 21/12/2022 22:13

Thank you very much for your reply I appreciate it so much. There will not be a next time, there is absolutely no chance. Thank you so much for your compassion and understanding

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TattyDevine · 21/12/2022 22:17

I would try and just let this one go and learn from it. It's given you some perspective. I think for a fleeting moment "drunk you" needed some validation and "sober you" has had a reality check.

Moser85 · 21/12/2022 22:25

RVD01 · 21/12/2022 22:12

Thank you so much for your reply, that is a very good point and I completely understand and agree. I can honestly say that this has affected me so much I will forever remind myself of how I got into the situation (getting drunk) and avoid it. I have informed my family and friends (and also my girlfriend) of my intentions with regard to controlling my drinking. I am seriously considering complete abstinence, as that may be the only safe way I can guarantee I will avoid it again.

That's great.
Are they supportive?
My ex was a problem drinker and had probably the worst bunch of friends and family a problem drinker could have. Most of his family were also problem drinkers so unfortunately were no support when he tried to stay off it, they'd offer him drink etc.
A lot of his friends were the same but he did have a couple who would ask him to go fishing or to do healthier hobbies with them and they're the kind of people you need in your life.

user1471423151 · 21/12/2022 22:29

Well you haven’t behaved well, but you seem to be beating yourself up an awful lot. Human beings are fallible, we make mistakes. You seem to realise you have fucked up massively, learn from it, don’t do it again, and move on. Wallowing in guilt won’t help, just prove yourself as a good partner to your gf.

RVD01 · 21/12/2022 22:30

They are highly supportive, especially my mum, who has experienced my drinking problems first hand when I was younger and was actually much worse (drank most days and was generally pretty horrid to her). Thankfully I found fitness and live a healthy lifestyle, apart from those stupid very occasional binges. Now I know they are not going to happen again, I'm looking forward to a truly healthy life, mentally and physically. I will have to live with the guilt, I know I will hold it forever, but will use it to be a good person and a good partner.

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ButterflyOil · 21/12/2022 22:48

I think you should definitely use this as a lesson about your drinking. You screwed up, yes, but you can turn this into a positive by ensuring you address the binge drinking. Try and forgive yourself - we all make mistakes. You seem like you’ve reflected and understand what motivated you to do what you did, and like you’re committed to taking a lesson from it and ensuring your future is one with healthier choices.

Focus on that. You could tell your girlfriend what happened perhaps if you believe you need to be totally open with her. Personally i’d do it myself because I believe full ownership involves letting the other person know and not lying by omission to them, but lots of other people would say why hurt her to ease your guilt. You know her so it’s up to you to judge whether she would want to know.

SunflowerTed · 21/12/2022 22:54

Your reaction is scarily over the top to be honest. I also think you know something happened and are trying to minimize it!! I hope you learn from this but I’m not convinced….

Fladdermus · 21/12/2022 23:04

SunflowerTed · 21/12/2022 22:54

Your reaction is scarily over the top to be honest. I also think you know something happened and are trying to minimize it!! I hope you learn from this but I’m not convinced….

I thought the same. I never buy the 'so drunk I can't remember' excuse. I've been so drunk in my past that I've slept in a ditch (NYE 1991/2) but I still remembered every embarrassing moment of the night.

ButterflyOil · 21/12/2022 23:06

I’ve been not even that drunk comparatively speaking to times in my misbegotten youth and have had a very very cloudy recollection of the evening though. Alcohol hits people differently.

RVD01 · 21/12/2022 23:31

I definitely understand where you're coming from, it may seem over the top but I guess that is my natural reaction, I suffer terribly from anxiety and often overthink, it's not much fun

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BigsyMalone · 21/12/2022 23:38

Tell her and let her decide.

beatsin8s · 21/12/2022 23:40

Fladdermus · 21/12/2022 23:04

I thought the same. I never buy the 'so drunk I can't remember' excuse. I've been so drunk in my past that I've slept in a ditch (NYE 1991/2) but I still remembered every embarrassing moment of the night.

It definitely does happen. I've struggled previously with problem drinking and full parts of nights are still a mystery to me. No idea what happened. So dangerous.

Jewel7 · 21/12/2022 23:43

I’m wondering if there is more to this. It seems more like you are torn between being single and your girlfriend. Are you going to look back in years to come and worry that you settled down when you weren’t ready? Or can you definitely choose your girlfriend and be happy. Sometimes it’s the right person at the wrong time. I think you know you kissed this person and can’t quite admit it?

RVD01 · 22/12/2022 00:05

Jewel7 · 21/12/2022 23:43

I’m wondering if there is more to this. It seems more like you are torn between being single and your girlfriend. Are you going to look back in years to come and worry that you settled down when you weren’t ready? Or can you definitely choose your girlfriend and be happy. Sometimes it’s the right person at the wrong time. I think you know you kissed this person and can’t quite admit it?

I 100% have no interest at all in being single, it was a stupid niggling thought, I have no doubts at all. And no I have no actual memory of kissing her, as I said I feel as though it may have happened as I was so guilty so maybe subconsciously I know? But memories wise, nothing I'm afraid

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yousexybugger · 22/12/2022 07:10

Don't ruin your relationship for a one off drunken quick kiss. In your gf's shoes, I would end things on principle as I could no longer trust you, but secretly wish I hadn't known if things are as good as you say, also you were blind drunk and genuinely contrite and making changes. This does not apply to sex, repeated incidences or decisions made sober including emotional affairs so please don't apply this as a general rule.

I know you say this has brought your feelings about being single out in the wash but I am concerned these will crop up again. Are you certain you have got this out of your system and your girlfriend is what you want over experimentation? Think carefully. This is why people cheat. The way I see it is that everyone has a different curiosity for sleeping/ dating around but needs to satisfy this before being a reliable partner. Some may be Happy with one partner for their whole life, some may never get it out of their system. I came to the conclusion some time ago that sex is sex and variety is not the key thing that makes it exciting.

Address the drinking and don't tell anyone else in real life. It's very shitty that your mum knows this and not your gf.

jerseybean1000 · 22/12/2022 07:17

Don't do it again. Get over it. Not the end of the world.

Ladybug14 · 22/12/2022 07:19

Join AA or similar to sort out your drinking

Get some talking therapy to work out what you want going forward

Do not tell your GF about the possible kiss.....but sort yourself out pronto

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