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Constant battle with DP and DD. I want to just leave them to it.

42 replies

MinkyGreen · 21/12/2022 06:04

DP works until 9pm every night. I’ve made him dinner, he gets in - eats it and leaves the dirty dishes in the kitchen. Falls asleep on sofa. We have 2 children. Oldest DD is usually still awake when he gets home, so he does put her to bed. DD and DP have a ‘bond’ - and I feel I’m often talked about behind my back/Mummy is wrong to say that etc etc. I’m constantly annoyed with DO because he doesn’t do or organise anything. Whether it’s school, days out, activities with the children - he relies on me to tell him what’s going on. Youngest DS is awaiting an ASD diagnosis. He has no clue about any of it, unless I point out that he should really show some interest. Then he makes an ‘effort’ to ask - but default is no interest. He does do DIY tasks, but household tasks are all left to me.
DD just wants to play computer games all day, or glued to her phone. I monitor both - but am just met with rudeness and told I’m strict or made to feel like the bad person. Tried yesterday to engage in Christmas crafts, trip to the park - but it was a horrible battle. She appears to have no joy in anything. No effort to do sports/hobbies etc. She leaves sweet papers, wrappers all around the house - despite me constantly telling me to put them in bin (similar to DP, I found his cake wrapper tucked down the side of the sofa yesterday). Last night I moaned that DP wasn’t back at it was 8pm - she told me it was my fault and that I’m always complaining. It feels like DD and DP are very similar and are ‘ganging up’ on me - although I know that sounds ridiculous.
I feel DD and DP show me no respect whatsoever. And I just want to stop trying.
DS is only 3 - but by contrast is just so happy, he follows me around and helps me tidy.
I currently feel like giving up and just leaving DP and DD to their own devices. It’s the total lack of empathy/respect for other people. Even a letter to Father Christmas from DD was a list of demands, and she shouted at me when I said there needs to be at least be one please or a thank you. I’m fed up with the battles and arguments, reminders, being shouted at.
DP’s parents both have recently tested positive for Covid, he wants them both here for Xmas. I then have to visit my Mum who is alone and CEV. Her needs don’t seem to be part of the thought process here.

My current thoughts now are to go to my Mum’s with DS before his parents arrive. Let DD, DP and his parents all have their selfish Xmas together - and I’ll just spend Xmas with DS and my Mum.

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GreenManalishi · 21/12/2022 07:45

DP and DD are so bloody similar.

She's had 12 years of learning how to treat you and the home you all share. Don't be surprised when DS joins in.

It's not her fault, even though she's grinding your gears try to see that she's doing her best and work on your relationship with her moment to moment.

There's an idea that if for every criticism or negative, you say ten complements or positives, your relationship will improve, and I find this works with mine if we get in a bit of a funk.

Christmas crafts are the icing on decent cake, they won't work of you're not getting on, like a date night wont fix things with a partner if the basics are off.

Meanwhile, your issue is squarely with your dp.

AreOttersJustWetCats · 21/12/2022 07:47

SecretVictoria · 21/12/2022 06:35

Why on earth is a high school student doing a letter to Santa? She probably thought you were taking the piss and so took it back by writing a list of demands.

This is a fair point. I don't know anyone who believed in santa at 12.

AreOttersJustWetCats · 21/12/2022 07:48

I agree with pp that the issue is your DP - he's modelling this behaviour and endorsing it. She's a child, and children learn from the behaviours they see around them.

Newlifestartingatlast · 21/12/2022 07:52

RedHelenB · 21/12/2022 07:31

Why on earth is she writing to Father Christmas at secondary school age?

I still ask my DS for their “Santa letter” and they’re in late 20s …it’s just a euphemism for a wish list…did she actually say her daughter still believed?

AreOttersJustWetCats · 21/12/2022 07:55

Newlifestartingatlast · 21/12/2022 07:52

I still ask my DS for their “Santa letter” and they’re in late 20s …it’s just a euphemism for a wish list…did she actually say her daughter still believed?

Yes, she did. I agree with PP that am ASD assessment might be helpful.

RedHelenB · 21/12/2022 16:10

Newlifestartingatlast · 21/12/2022 07:52

I still ask my DS for their “Santa letter” and they’re in late 20s …it’s just a euphemism for a wish list…did she actually say her daughter still believed?

Do they write it? Or just tell you things they want verbally?

billy1966 · 21/12/2022 18:36

Do it.

We teach people how to treat us and they are both treating you very poorly.

Leave him to his parents and go stay with your mother.

Take a step back from making their life so comfortable.

You behave like a skivvy, so they treat you like one.

A friend of mine who had two very messy daughters and was at the end of her tether was advised to gather their shit up every day and dump it directly on their bed.

A week it took for their outrage to subside and she found they got the message.

YOU have to change you, they have zero interest in changing what is working for THEM.

Oh and any child speaking rudely to me got the 🤚with the instruction to not speak nor come near me until they found their manners.

I had zero tolerance of it.

Twobigbabies · 22/12/2022 06:41

I agree with some of the posters suggesting your DD and DP may have ASD/ADHD. I have close family members with ASD and ADHD and the messiness with apparent disregard for those cleaning up around them (ADHD) plus the inability to say please and thank you despite constant reminders (ASD) are very familiar! It definitely helps me to know it's not their fault and they need more reminders/help with these tasks. I would read up on ADHD in adults/ASD in girls (often masked).

If you really think it's not this and your husband is just dumping on you then definitely look at relationship counselling.

BatildaB · 18/01/2023 08:34

Might be projecting from my own past here but if you do all the work and are treated with disrespect she might feel that she has to choose which parent to emulate as puberty encroaches and she becomes more aware of gender roles and not want to put herself in the same category as you to be disrespected and taken advantage of. Then copying her dad’s entitled behaviour might look like the only other option. I don’t know what the solution is though, if that is the problem.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 18/01/2023 12:00

May I ask how old your DD is ?

Cigarettesaftersex1 · 18/01/2023 13:19

Thisisworsethananticpated · 18/01/2023 12:00

May I ask how old your DD is ?

OP has answered this upthread

MinkyGreen · 19/01/2023 04:03

Thank you for your replies. I did spend Xmas with DD and DP. DD has been much better and more settled. Not on her screen so much. DP has been doing his usual not getting home til 8.30pm or 9pm. I’ve been unwell and lost my voice. Last night he got in and his first concern was heating up the dinner I’d cooked/watching TV. I asked if he could put bin out/DD to bed. DD knocked some water over and he shouted at her - really pretty horrible. So I put DD to bed, she’s crying, I cuddled her - and the bin hasn’t been done. And I can guarantee his dirty plates will be just left on the side when I get up for work.

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MinkyGreen · 19/01/2023 04:11

I think DD is confused. She was really sobbing last night, and I just tried to tell her (with no voice!) it was an accident and not to worry. She was being very down on herself.

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Tekkentime · 19/01/2023 05:29

Your DH works 13 hours a day, leave the poor bloke alone! 😂

MinkyGreen · 19/01/2023 05:56

@Tekkentime I work too! I could take my role full time and work until 9pm everyday. In fact, I’d quite enjoy it. I’d quite like to do my work at my own leisurely pace, not focus on any kind of time management - knowing that household chores, all organisation, all childcare is being managed by someone else - and then get home to my dinner, switch on the TV and leave my dishes out.

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emptythelitterbox · 19/01/2023 07:10

MinkyGreen · 19/01/2023 05:56

@Tekkentime I work too! I could take my role full time and work until 9pm everyday. In fact, I’d quite enjoy it. I’d quite like to do my work at my own leisurely pace, not focus on any kind of time management - knowing that household chores, all organisation, all childcare is being managed by someone else - and then get home to my dinner, switch on the TV and leave my dishes out.

Your DH really is taking the piss staying late every night. Isn't it interesting that so many men leave super early and return super late so they don't have to participate in family life?!
But women working the same types of jobs manage to have normal hours?

I've worked in a male dominated profession all my career and see how they operate. They're doing anything but working. Playing video games, going to the gym, the pub when they are supposedly working late.

What is his job?

I'd stop making him dinner. Put his dirty dishes on his side of the bed.Grin

Tekkentime · 19/01/2023 08:30

MinkyGreen · 19/01/2023 05:56

@Tekkentime I work too! I could take my role full time and work until 9pm everyday. In fact, I’d quite enjoy it. I’d quite like to do my work at my own leisurely pace, not focus on any kind of time management - knowing that household chores, all organisation, all childcare is being managed by someone else - and then get home to my dinner, switch on the TV and leave my dishes out.

If you really love work so much and want to work full time, maybe float the idea?

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