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Why are so many people so deceitful?

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Anon778833 · 20/12/2022 04:47

About 6 months ago, a guy that I dated for a few months bumped into me in my local waitrose. Over that time, he has been texting and calling me nearly every day, inviting me out and to watch films at his house. And telling me he's 'campaigning for another chance'. I said that we could get to know each other better. And then we'll see.

Anyway, after the last time I met up with him I just got this strange feeling that he might not be single. So I did some digging and found out that he's engaged and has been living with someone for at least a year!! He would go on holidays and send me about 40 pictures and crop her out of them all!! He would remove all traces of her from his house when I was there.

Why are so many men such liars? I've blocked him after telling him in no uncertain terms that he's awful. His gf is a nurse and he would arrange to meet up with me whilst she was at work on night shifts:

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Anon778833 · 22/12/2022 10:24

@coolcahuna yeah it's possible she already knew because it's been going on so long and when I was first talking to me he said he was on Tinder.

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VeryMoist · 22/12/2022 10:38

You can be on Tinder and only show for people YOU swipe right on them so he can select who he appears to and he can change his city to a different location away from the gf.
You can easily an discreetly pay for this Tinder upgrade using Google Play gift cards from your local supermarket.

They deceive because they are entitled, cowardly and selfish.
Entitled to a bit on the side, entitled to constantly feed their ego with affairs and flirting. Too cowardly to break up or face up problems in relationship. Too selfish to rock the boat due to benefits from staying in that relation: status, money, housing ..etc.
I don't think online dating is Autism friendly if you struggle to read people would be best to go the real life friendship route.

Anon778833 · 22/12/2022 11:23

Oh I see. Anyway, I've let her know what he's been doing and blocked him. Now it's up to her because I've certainly taken myself out of this equation. The irony is that I knew him before so I thought it wasn't like online.

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coolcahuna · 22/12/2022 13:27

Anon778833 · 22/12/2022 11:23

Oh I see. Anyway, I've let her know what he's been doing and blocked him. Now it's up to her because I've certainly taken myself out of this equation. The irony is that I knew him before so I thought it wasn't like online.

You've done all you can. I've blocked them both and left them to it. She knows the truth , now it's on them to sort out. Walk away with your head held high

Anon778833 · 22/12/2022 15:04

Thinking about it, he's the sort of person who wants to always have someone living with him so that they pay half the bills.

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emptythelitterbox · 22/12/2022 15:25

I'm ND and had a sort of naivety about people, especially men for far too many years than I should have.

After talking with 100s of women, reading their stories online, and reading actual studies and research on me, I've come to accept that they are just wired that way.

Men are fairly heavy in the dark triad areas, google it.
Once I changed my thinking to all men are liars until they prove with actions otherwise, things became much better.

Anon778833 · 22/12/2022 16:24

emptythelitterbox · 22/12/2022 15:25

I'm ND and had a sort of naivety about people, especially men for far too many years than I should have.

After talking with 100s of women, reading their stories online, and reading actual studies and research on me, I've come to accept that they are just wired that way.

Men are fairly heavy in the dark triad areas, google it.
Once I changed my thinking to all men are liars until they prove with actions otherwise, things became much better.

Thank you for this. Time to get a lot tougher.

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TheYearOfSmallThings · 22/12/2022 16:29

People lie to get something they want. In this case he either wanted some extracurricular sex or just the ego boost of knowing he could have you, even though he wasn't really that bothered, and had no intention of parting from his girlfriend.

Anon778833 · 22/12/2022 18:29

The level of deception in this case is much above and beyond most though. The amount of time it went on. The disrespect. Since I was the one who finished with him the first time, maybe he wanted to see if he could get me to change my mind.

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