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Is it weird to feel guilt about moving on?

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EthelHollow · 13/12/2022 23:56

At end of 30 yr relationship. Too much detail to even consider writing here. I wish I could.

Didn't have children, I'm fine with that, but only in the last 10 yrs did I realise he would never want to share fully. No marriage, no shared home. I think I did want that, at least. There was always this idea of us being inseparable, sticking together, but on his terms. Of course I grew older and discovered this is bullshit.

I am in a decent place mentally, although had a rough few years. Since 2018 this has been slowly decaying, we are so many miles apart and haven't even had sex for 7 years. He wouldn't have a vasectomy but claimed he couldn't wear condoms. Not only that, but as the years go by he never shares things or talks anymore, if you push him, it's bad news, he becomes upset. We can flow along well if I don't care, but this just isn't good enough for me now. We are like old friends, family even, but not remotely like lovers.

The difficult part - I live with him in his home. It is a mess and he won't alter or change it. This isn't at all how I want to live, but for the time being, I am here. When I leave I will be renting, which I am fine with. I wfh so can deal with that.

But this past few years has been like a drain on my soul, I have gone through a lot of personal, inner work and am doing fine, head above water, quite aware and keeping myself sane. However, I am soon to leave. He is aware of that and although he won't talk of it, there is an understanding that it is done. Unfortunately because he doesn't discuss his deep feelings, I am not aware how 'over' me he is. Sometimes I feel contempt from him, just a day to day contempt that can leave me cold. But he won't say it's over, or talk about moving on. So I have had to decide this for myself and get ready.

I am ready, but recently I thought of what I might feel if I met another man, not now, but eventually, and it left me puzzled. It felt as if I would be betraying him, as if I was letting 'us' down.
Is this normal at the end of a long term thing?
I love the idea of moving on and getting a life, of communicating with people outside of this hermetic little shell I have been living in. Why does it feel bad? I long to be free and building an actual life, possibly with a view to sharing it with people, but this guilty, odd feeling remains.

Please tell me this will go.

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EthelHollow · 14/12/2022 00:02

What is odd is that over the years he tells me all of the time that he wants me, that he is insanely attracted to me, always compliments me and tells me i am gorgeous. Even now (but followed with a sigh!), but never did anything about it. Is this unusual? I don't even know anymore.
WTF does that even mean? I think he tortures himself with the idea of me leaving, to be honest. Like it's all his own, personal, weird masochistic shit.

Surely if someone wanted you that much, they'd fucking show you or do something?
That said, I have long since lost attraction to him and don't even want him anymore. I love him, but as a person only.

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Maze76 · 14/12/2022 00:13

You’re not attracted to him, no sex for 7 years, no sign of any real commitment, everything on his terms, this is not a romantic relationship and you know this.

I suggest you have the conversation with him, if you want to remain friends ensure that you put boundaries in place.

It won’t be easy as this ‘ situation- ship’ has become your way of life, but it’s time for you to develop a life away from him, otherwise you will spend years being miserable.

Broaden your social circle, join clubs, exercise classes, a travel club.. something just for you, start living!

Forgottenmypasswordagain · 14/12/2022 00:14

I hope you find a nice rental and go sooner rather than later. He will either miraculously change if he misses you, or not.

EthelHollow · 14/12/2022 00:19

Thanks for replying.
But I have had the conversation, he listens, nods, doesn't say anything. It's like living with a hologram.
He states he loves me, wants me, whatever, but nods when I say I must leave!

Honestly I have very openly and delicately spoken of this for 6 years. Nothing in return.

Of course it was love, or we wouldn't be here, but it is a kind of Frankenstein now.
Unfortunately the sense of loyalty is still there for me, and i want it to go.

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EthelHollow · 14/12/2022 00:21

Forgottenmypasswordagain · 14/12/2022 00:14

I hope you find a nice rental and go sooner rather than later. He will either miraculously change if he misses you, or not.

Ah we have lived apart before, over the years, so no, he won't change. I think he has 'seasons' where he wants the romance, and then 2 yrs later he seems unreachable.
What infuriates me is he solidly denies this and tells me i am mistaken, that my observations are wrong. But then never does anything to show it.

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EthelHollow · 14/12/2022 00:29

Sorry to thread-hog, but I do feel I need to say that the relationship being over isn't what bothers me.

It's the guilty feeling I have about moving on, about potentially wanting or seeing another man. I would love to know if this is normal and will it pass?

For example, I am a member of a forum relating to a shared interest, and I gert along with a guy on there very well. I don't know him and haven't seen him, so am not interested, but the thought crossed my mind - what if? What if I eventually got to know another man? And I felt wrong, guilty, as if he would never forgive me.
I don't like this sense of being tethered to someone who can't give a fuck, although I know he loves me in a small way.

I want the power to say 'this is me, I am into this man, I am not a bad person'

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asquideatingdough · 14/12/2022 01:11

I had feelings of guilt when I first started thinking about finding someone new after leaving my DH of 20 years. My feelings for him had been dead for a long time but I felt a residual loyalty that he frankly did not deserve. I waited six months after DH moved out to try OLD and when I went on my first date was freaked out by the very thought I was going to meet a man for an expressly romantic purpose.

However, those feelings passed pretty quickly and six months later (ie by 1 year after ex DH moved out), met my now current DP and fell head over heels in love. No guilt whatsoever!

A lot of what you describe as your DP's behaviour sounds passive aggressive to me. My ex was similar, he made us miserable by his moods and behaviour but it was me who had to call time. He said many things he never showed too.

Move out as soon as you can. You will find the separation really helps.

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