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Do you know anybody formally diagnosed with ASPD (psychopathy)

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Parkingmoan1 · 10/12/2022 19:31

I was reading an AMA thread a while ago that got deleted for being sus, but it got me to thinking about a bloke I once dated who had this diagnosis (given to him after assessment in prison)

Long story short, he was an enormous PITA and manipulator. Toxic as hell. Luckily i wasnt interested in anything serious. I didn't give him my address, let him meet my family etc. I got shot within 8 weeks or so.

He's in prison again now, unsurprisingly.

Does anybody else know anybody with this diagnosis? Is it possible to have anything resembling a normal relationship with them? Not just romantic but siblings, parents, friends etc.

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ArcticSkewer · 11/12/2022 07:43

I found this an interesting read a while ago [https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-neuroscientist-who-discovered-he-was-a-psychopath-180947814/?no-ist]

VioletLemon · 11/12/2022 07:52

What was it specifically that began to make it clear he was sinister?
Asking because I know a psychopath but not diagnosed. I think diagnosis is more common if crime has been committed and they enter the prison system.

I have known child psychopaths and been told the words aren't used with under 21's commonly in diagnosis as its so stigmatising.

Msgrieves · 11/12/2022 08:01

The guy I knew was really odd, he got really agitated one night and told me that he had put his ex in hospital. He was very drunk one night and slapped me for no reason at all, we weren't arguing at the time. After that I blocked him, he turned up at my house a few times eek.

Thankfully he has disappeared, I guess I am poster girl for "when people tell you what they are, listen"

RewildingAmbridge · 11/12/2022 08:08

Loads but I work in the criminal justice sector.

Pictograph · 11/12/2022 08:09

@VioletLemon I don't think it's just because of the stigma. I think it's also because some behaviours which might indicate sociopathy in an adult are much more common in children because their brains aren't fully developed. So a diagnosis is more likely to be incorrect.

fannyfartlet · 11/12/2022 08:16

mindutopia · 10/12/2022 22:22

A child I worked with as a social worker 20 years ago was diagnosed with ASPD. I don’t think diagnosing children that young is even appropriate (any more?), but he was about 8. It was one of the most disconcerting experiences with a child I’ve ever had. I often wonder what happened to him. He’d be an adult now and I sure as hell wouldn’t want one of my daughters dating him.

It wasn't appropriate back then either. I was still working in psychiatry 20 yrs ago and a PD diagnosis wouldn't be given until adulthood and we might have started talking about an emerging PD from late teens but absolutely not at 8. Could it have been a diagnosis of conduct disorder?

Dolphinnoises · 11/12/2022 08:21

I was listening to a psychopath being interviewed on a podcast a couple of years ago, it really stayed with me. He wasn’t soeakung aggressively but his utter lack of care for others was chilling. I wonder if it was the same podcast. And I wonder why, having heard either that or presumably something similar, you would pursue someone like that? I’m not saying this to be judgemental (I know it sounds like it) but I’m a bit concerned for you really…

pictish · 11/12/2022 08:22

Parkingmoan1 · 10/12/2022 19:37

The one I knew, on our first date he asked me "what's the one thing somebody could say to you that would hurt you the most?"

How insane is that.

Curious to know what you said in response.

Parkingmoan1 · 11/12/2022 08:50

Dolphinnoises · 11/12/2022 08:21

I was listening to a psychopath being interviewed on a podcast a couple of years ago, it really stayed with me. He wasn’t soeakung aggressively but his utter lack of care for others was chilling. I wonder if it was the same podcast. And I wonder why, having heard either that or presumably something similar, you would pursue someone like that? I’m not saying this to be judgemental (I know it sounds like it) but I’m a bit concerned for you really…

He wasn't on a podcast talking about his diagnosis, I didn't find out about that until I was dating him. He was on a podcast talking about reform and the positive work he does, he seemed entirely rehabilitated, decent and doing good in the world.

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Parkingmoan1 · 11/12/2022 08:54

pictish · 11/12/2022 08:22

Curious to know what you said in response.

I made something up on the spot, there was no way I was listing off my insecurities.

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