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Claire's law criteria

15 replies

strawberrysea · 11/11/2022 14:40

Hi, I want to make a Claire's law request regarding a man that a family member has entered into a relationship with.

My red flag radar is going off big time. Love bombing, never leaves her side, raises his voice and describes himself as an 'alpha male (aka c*nt)'. There's so, so much more but it would be way too specific and revealing and I think she might be on this forum.

I know his first name and where he works but I don't know his home address, which seems to be required when making a request.

Contacted the police and got sent back a bot email response about how to apply, which isn't what I'm after obviously.

Thanks.

OP posts:
mindutopia · 11/11/2022 14:43

Could you casually ask family member what his surname is because 'your friend Susie was wondering if he's the same Bob that her brother went to school with' (or similar)? Or does his employer have a website or a way you could locate his name through them?

I imagine if you have his full name, it wouldn't be too hard to find his address.

strawberrysea · 11/11/2022 14:49

mindutopia · 11/11/2022 14:43

Could you casually ask family member what his surname is because 'your friend Susie was wondering if he's the same Bob that her brother went to school with' (or similar)? Or does his employer have a website or a way you could locate his name through them?

I imagine if you have his full name, it wouldn't be too hard to find his address.

Sorry, I do know his full name. No idea what his address is but as I say I do know where he works.

OP posts:
BattenburgDonkey · 11/11/2022 14:51

What do you want to no? Like what can we advise you on?

Londono · 11/11/2022 14:53

Do you know what area he lives in? If so, you could look him up on the electoral roll.

Londono · 11/11/2022 14:53

Look his name up I mean...

strawberrysea · 11/11/2022 14:53

BattenburgDonkey · 11/11/2022 14:51

What do you want to no? Like what can we advise you on?

Basically just whether I can submit a request without his home address. Or whether anyone has submitted a request without an address before and whether they heard anything back.

Sorry, I should've made that clearer in the OP.

OP posts:
familyissues12345 · 11/11/2022 14:58

I would try and submit it with as much info as you can give, it's worth a shot

oobeedoobee · 11/11/2022 17:23

Maybe try Linkedin ? Or ask a family member if they know where they live ?

You could even contact the woman he's in a relationship with and ask ?(Say you need it to send a Xmas card ??)

Pinkbonbon · 11/11/2022 17:39

I don't think you can do a claires law on behalf of someone else. They'll contact you to ask why YOU need the information.

I've seen it denied to someone who asked regarding her ex. Because the weren't currently in a relationship.

So I think you may be wasting time there. Maybe encourage the family member to do one. And gift them some books like 'why does he do that'. Or link them fo some youtube videos about how to spot narcissists/abusers in relationships.

trevthecat · 11/11/2022 17:41

It needs to be his partner that applies I think.

BattenburgDonkey · 11/11/2022 17:42

No you can apply on behalf of someone else, but the police may decide you don’t qualify, but you absolutely can apply. OP I would phone your local police station and ask them what they need.

BattenburgDonkey · 11/11/2022 17:44

www.tamworth.gov.uk/sites/default/files/housing_docs/ClaresLaw_Leaflet.pdf

this isn’t my local council but it’s the same in all councils, this is just the first one I found on Google.

Bizzyone · 11/11/2022 17:48

You can apply for claires law but if theres anything on him they will tell the person he is in a relationship with not you...

strawberrysea · 11/11/2022 18:03

BattenburgDonkey · 11/11/2022 17:44

www.tamworth.gov.uk/sites/default/files/housing_docs/ClaresLaw_Leaflet.pdf

this isn’t my local council but it’s the same in all councils, this is just the first one I found on Google.

Thank you that's really helpful.

Thank you everyone for all the advice.

In terms of videos and books about emotional abuse - my family and I have tried this in the past and it just doesn't work. Sadly this relative has a history of emotionally abusive relationships and each one seems to be worse than the one before. Not sure what else I can do, it's really devastating.

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Scatteredpictures · 12/11/2022 16:23

You can ask the police for a disclosure on behalf of someone, just it’s not you they give the information to, it will be the person at potential risk. It just can’t be given if they are no longer together.
It will only be shared with them and they are not allowed to share the information with anyone else and the person involved will not (or shouldn’t) find out they have had the disclosure done on them.
I don’t think you will need address as an absolute - full name is a good enough start and possibly supporting information like a DOB. Systems don’t run off where people live and information can be found.

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