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Loss of friendship

13 replies

Pipsqueak17 · 09/11/2022 19:24

I've not posted on here before so please bear with me.
I've recently become mum to a beautiful 19 month old girl (well, by recently I mean 19 months ago!).
Just for some background...
Long story short my partner was tested and told he was infertile after testicular cancer treatment so my pregnancy was a shock.
I previously spent my life thinking I did not want children but we decided we wanted to go ahead with the pregnancy and have never regretted it for a second. We are together and happy as a family.
The problem I have is my best friend of two decades didn't seem to deal with my pregnancy very well, she would say things like she needed to make new friends as I wouldn't be around much once the baby was born, or ask if I thought I was doing the right thing.
When my daughter was one day old she messaged me asking if i felt I had made a mistake.
Part of me understands where she was coming from as she doesn't have children and doesn't want any, we used to be on the same page before my surprise pregnancy. Life with a child is very different to life without and spare time for your friends does dwindle, but I found some of the comments hurtful and so did my partner.
To make matters worse she and my partner do not get on AT ALL.
She has previously spoken how she doesn't like him/she thinks he's not right for me and he has been told by other mutual friends that she has told them she feels this way.
They did try to meet up once and bury the hatchet for my sake, she apologised for her comments about the pregnancy which he accepted but then she went on to tell him how he had changed my life for the worse and was making me miserable which didn't go down well with him at all.
He doesn't make me miserable but I was a bit overwhelmed as a new mum at the time and quite teary over probably silly things. Our relationship was a bit strained at times with a newborn but i genuinely think all couples relationships are those first few months, especially as we were first time parents.
She feels she apologised and it's done with. He now dislikes her more than he did before.
As a result he's not keen on our daughter spending time with my friend. He worries she will give off the impression she doesn't approve of him or talk badly about my daughters daddy in front of her.
I don't think she would do this, at least not intentionally but if the shoe was on the other foot I think I would also feel this way, at least a bit, although I don't think I would be as insistent as he is about our daughter not seeing my friend.
I'm stuck in the middle.
He has no problem me seeing my friend without my daughter but does get grumpy when my friend occasionally sees her and isn't happy about it.
With working and being a mum the free time I have is naturally limited.
My friend keeps telling me she is unhappy with our friendship now and she knows she is pulling away from it because of the situation.
I feel like she is making me feel very guilty about how I don't support her/am not there for her like we used to be for each other.
I'm stuck in the middle trying to respect my partners views but also keep my long term friendship alive, we were like sisters.
I love my partner and the family we have together but I also love my friend.
I can see both or their viewpoints (I feel she was quick to judge him and probably too forward with her views) and i just don't know how to move forwards from this.
I guess I'm just asking if anyone else has been in this situation and what the outcome was/how they solved it, or for anyones general thoughts on the matter.

OP posts:
DatingDinosaur · 09/11/2022 21:00

I’m sorry but your friend sounds self absorbed and selfish. It’s all about her isn’t it? All about how you living your life is impacting negatively on her?

A genuine, good friend would be happy that you’re happy, not nit-picking because you’re not living the life she wants you to and, as a result, won’t be around as much to be at her beck and call.

Never mind her needing to find new friends. I think you do!

She sounds utterly clingy and draining.

Your lovely new family should come first now and if she wants to suck lemons about that just because SHE doesn't want children, well let her.

Opaljewel · 09/11/2022 21:35

Your friend sounds like an absolute selfish weapon.

SunflowerTed · 10/11/2022 04:26

She is a manipulative bitch

autienotnaughty · 10/11/2022 06:11

I think your friend liked your relationship how it was before you settled down and is resentful now she has gone down the pecking order. Her saying these things is damaging to your friendship and your relationship. Perhaps you need to step back from the friendship? But there's one thing I'm not keen on, why is your partner telling you you can't take your daughter? That sounds a bit controlling, if it's just that one thing then fair enough maybe he's just hurt. I guess you have to judge is your friend trying to look out for you or is she trying to cause trouble?

Bedazzled22 · 10/11/2022 06:50

I don’t think she is a friend to you. It is all about her and her feelings so she is not a true friend.

Just because you’ve been friends for so long doesn’t mean you should continue to be so. I think you need new friends.

LoveShitJokes · 10/11/2022 06:52

She's jealous

Bedazzled22 · 10/11/2022 06:55

I agree with previous poster I was just thinking also she is jealous.

the fact that the first thing she thought about was how your pregnancy would affect her in terms of you not being around as much shows her selfishness.

She should’ve been utterly thrilled to bits to think that you had a surprise pregnancy after you thought it would never happen and after what you have been through with your partner’s cancer treatment. Yet she wasn’t, she was thinking how your pregnancy would affect her. She really isn’t a nice person

Renter77 · 10/11/2022 07:01

She doesn’t sound nice at all, OP. Read back what you’ve written and you’ll see it too.

Not great that your partner has said he doesn’t want his daughter around her though - a bit controlling. Is he controlling in other ways?

But, having said that, if my DH had a toxic friend who hated me, I wouldn’t love him taking my kids over to their house. But I couldn’t imagine him having a toxic friend who hated me / slagged me off / his life choices off like your friend does…

littleworld187 · 10/11/2022 07:06

It doesn't matter how long you've been friends, she sounds horrible

Time for NC

ArcticSkewer · 10/11/2022 07:10

They both sound controlling - as if they are fighting over who gets to control you. Why are the two most important people in your life both controlling?

GreyCarpet · 10/11/2022 07:24

Well I can completely understand him not wanting his daughter around someone who speaks so badly of him! I wouldn't either. Nor someone who says such things to you. It's hugely disrespectful and damaging.

And, tbh, it doesn't sound like she has wants to be around your daughter anyway.

If you want to remain friends with her then see her without your child. If that means meet ups can't happen as often then that's fine. Your daughter can stay home with her dad.

Although I'm not really sure why you'd want to he friends with someone who speaks about your little family like that. I wouldn't. Life is too short.

KettrickenSmiled · 10/11/2022 12:24

When my daughter was one day old she messaged me asking if i felt I had made a mistake.
Shock
How did you not dump her arse immediately for that remark?

& you go on to say you feel stuck in the middle between her & DP because you are like sisters ...

She is not your sister.
You are in an abusive relationship OP. With your 'friend'.
She's clearly Stockholm Syndrome'd you into accepting her cruelty, crassness & selfishness for so many years that you can't see what she is.

Your DP is right - she shouldn't be around your daughter.
Unless you want to risk her telling DD how she should not have been born, was a mistake, & that daddy makes mummy unhappy.

KettrickenSmiled · 10/11/2022 12:26

autienotnaughty · 10/11/2022 06:11

I think your friend liked your relationship how it was before you settled down and is resentful now she has gone down the pecking order. Her saying these things is damaging to your friendship and your relationship. Perhaps you need to step back from the friendship? But there's one thing I'm not keen on, why is your partner telling you you can't take your daughter? That sounds a bit controlling, if it's just that one thing then fair enough maybe he's just hurt. I guess you have to judge is your friend trying to look out for you or is she trying to cause trouble?

Call me old-fashioned, but I would not allow an adult who called my child a "mistake" to be around that adult.

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