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What would you do in a relationship like this?

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LittleFishies · 07/11/2022 10:16

I am sorry, this will be long, but I need to get things off my chest and need advice. But there are several things I need to mention abotu my situation and my problem so that it is clear. So pardon me for this essay.

I am in my early 30s, my partner in his early 40s. We have common hobbies and have been together for 5 years, living together for 3.
Lately our relationship has been going downhill. I am sad about it and I keep thinking if I should move on. I would be happy for another person's POV, although I do realize I may have done mistakes I may have not noticed, too.

Several months ago, we had a conversation about starting a family. I've wanted one for years, but didn't want to push him into it, only mentioned it rarely. He'd always postponed. He said he himself doesn't particularly want children, but he'd do it for his partner. That was before we were in a relationship and basically what he said ever since. We kind of agree we may start to try to get pregnant in a few month's time. However, he started to get distant, ignore me at times and get upset over things I didn't know were a trigger and he'd stonewall me for maybe a couple of weeks over a thing I said I found trivial. Problem is, he never tries to talk things out and find a solution. He'd just ignore me, don't talk much until I do something he's allegedly waiting for, or until I adress the issue. This has been wearing me out.
We talked about this later and he agreed it may have been caused by the stress of the possibility of starting a family. He said he likes to be with me, but there are things that bother him in our relationship, although they are minor, but he wasn't sure if he could live with those forever. And having a child would be a forever commitment. His issues with me are that I am not intimate enough. Or not too touchy from my iniciative.
He also likes to talk about sex. Or rather, write about it, as he says he is shy to talk in person, which is something I tried working on, but I am still not so comfortable with. I tried to tell him it is at least more comfortbale for me to talk face to face, but he likes to write, so he uses every chance when we are apart for a weekend or so. And I find it hard. If I write something casual, he may take it wrongly (by overanalyzing, I'd say) and then be upset about it, so I have to explain how it was meant and it really doesn't help the mood. I feel uncomfortable in these conversations, but try my best to not cut them short. When I try to end them, even if after a couple of hours, it rubs him the wrong way, too. So I tend to feel like I am walking on eggshells and like these conversations even less.
Problem is, when we are apart, nearly all written conversations tend to stir this way and I am subconsciously trying to avoid them. So, especially when I am busy, I wouldn't iniciate a convesation all that much. Maybe once a day. We were apart for a week like this, I was working on a project and he was with his friends. We did have thes conversations about twice for a few hours. At the end of the week, he'd tell me what a pity it is we couldn't exchange more messages, he hoped to write to me more. Which made me feel bad, but then again, it was nearly always me who wrote to him first. If one wants to converse, wouldn't one try more actively?
Another of my mistake is that I have never told him that I love him. I do, but I just can't get these words out of my mouth. I don't think I even told my parents, either, and I just have some stupid block. I try to show rather than say, but I have probbaly not been expressive enough. He didn't bring this up and didn't tell me much, either, so I thought he'd come to terms with it, but I later learned it wasn't the case, he was waiting all the time to tell me and was upset because of it. Which I agree is a mistake on my part. I will have to find the courage, althoguh it will be hard for me.

These things that bother him - potential family and therefore commitment, and my lack of intimacy are two reasons why he started a good friendship with a young acquintance of ours. She is in her early twenties, they started talking, and apparently they understand each other very well. She has her boyfriend, too, and he said (when I confronted him about it) that they are just friends. They even spoke about them being attracted, but decided that should their relationship threaten to become something more, they would cut it short, they both want to stay in their relationships. Needless to say, this wasn't very comforting for me. He cancelled plans we had together (and he made), which he never did before, to be with her a couple of times. And he went to visit her in a hospital in another town after her surgery and didn't tell me about it. But I found out. They were conversing a lot and I do believe him that there was nothing physical between them, but I feel like this is kind of emotional cheeting. I was upset that he was obviously trying to keep things from me, which had to have a reason.

I takled to my partner about this relationship of his when it was already unbearable for me. I was mentally prepared to break up with him then and there depending on his answer,
I had a conversation with him where I learned the problems he had in our relationship, we were honest with each toher, I told him my problems - this friend of his, the fact that I would like to have a family and I am not the youngest anymore and also that I would appreciate him taking on some chores. He mows the grass. Picks up something when I ask him and sometimes helps me take out the trash if there's a lot and is a bit too much to carry for me alone. But that's it, I do everything else.
But the biggest thing I wanted was for him to either pick his friend or me. I wouldn't have any self respect if I stayed in a relationship like this when he gave me a reason not to trush him completely. The talk was long and we were both tired, so he didn't give me a straight answer, and I told him we can finish this another time. Since then, he tried to patch things up by being more cuddly and I tried, too. He may have lessened the contact with said person, but he didn't cut her completely.
He asked about sex soon after that, and I told him that first, I would like to hear his decision about his relationship with the friend vs. me. And he kept silent since, for a couple of moths. We weren't intimate in this time, which would normally frustrate him, but apparently, not enough to start the conversation, I guess. He tends to just let trouble be, not confront it. So I will probably have to be the ne to bring it up eventually.

And last week things changed for me. I made a huge mistake, in one day I got cheated of all my savings and got into a rather large debt due to phishing done by a very organized group. My parents freaked out when they found out. My dad said he nearly had a stroke, didn't eat for two days and is very stressed about it. Which makes me probably more stressed than the whole thing and I feel guilty. I don't want to bring any stress to my parents. I was stupid and I shall deal with it myself. My dad has been unable to talk to me personally or over the phone, as he often did before, now he only writes messages, but he's doing all he can to help and offer advice, looking for advice etc.
I am stressed about the situation, I lost my appetite, started saving on everything and I lost weight - 2,5 kg in a week. And I always struggled with losing even 1 kg.
I look for solutions while trying to keep it together, be strong for my parents who took it badly, and not to break down. I believe I can do this, I have a good job, but I could still use some suppport from my partner. He did hug me when I told him and we fell asleep hugging one another, but since then, he doesn't even touch me much. He's been coming late from work - they had a big event, so I understand, but he never asked about how I was doing, what was new, if I had solutions, he didn't offer any advice and doesn't seem interested at all, which I am sad about. So I don't bring it up, only tell him my plans to save money when it comes to our common expenses.
Even the police officer offered more support than my partner did and people from the bank when I was solving this were trying to cheer me up or emphasized that I shouldn't do anything stupid. Which I am not planning, no.
My partner only once asked about how my dad was doing, so I told him, but he never showed any worry about me or interest about my situation. At least not verbally, not checking on me, not helping with chores, not doing any small gestures (at least that I noticed). When I tried to cuddle a few times, or at least touch him when watching a movie, it was mostly not reciprocated. Could he have taken this badly, too? He does at least talk to me normally, though, about other things.
As for finance, we don't have a shared account - well, we do, but only for the living expenses, no savings there, so financially this would not affect him. Well, I did pay a bit more and any extra household expenses were paid by me since I have a better paying job, but some of those he may not have even known about. Or forgot that we had to pay this or that and I took care of it.
And the first weekend after this happened to me, he spent the Saturday with his parents who needed some help, which is fine with me, but he didn't exactly rush home. He stayed a few more hours for dinner there and returned late. And on Sunday, he went out with his guy friend after lunch, returning when I was asleep and I felt lonely. I don't want him to spend all his time with me, I also like my alone time, but I just need to feel like he is there for me at this time.
I am also having my hobbies, coming home late some days regularly, but he has his activities, too, and others we have in common. So I do not expect him to spend all his time with me. I never forbid him or never asked him not to go somewhere (well, except for ending his relationship with aforementioned friend), so it is not like I am controlling, but I naively expected some support at this time. When he was ill or after surgery, I cancelled some of my plans to stay at home with him, I took care of him and of everything.
And now, I don't expect a financial help, but an emotional suppport or an advice or anything to show that he cares and is there for me when I feel down would make me feel better. He's been sharing his stress at work with me, I was asking about it, but it doesn't go the other way, so I am just trying to look like I am fine with everything, but I wonder if he's pulling away. Other than this, he communicates normally. It may be just me being too sensitive at this time.

I feel bad because of my financial situation now, because my parents are stressed about it, too. I wanted a family, but I am not sure if it is even possible in my situation now and with my partner. Now I worry about my relationship, too.
We haven't been physically intimate for a couple of months now, ever since our last conversation. I was hoping he would bring it up, tell me his decision, but he's probably just trying to drag this out until it takes care of itself.
And maybe now with my new trouble, he is even more reluctant to solve this. Should I bring it up? I will probably have to, eventually, anyway. What would you do? If I want him to stop talking to his friend, is it too much for me to ask? He will be meeting her at some activities we all have in common, still, so he won't be able to avoid her completely, but if he says, as he mentioned as a good enough solution for him, that he would talk to her less often, that they would grab a coffee perhaps once a month, would you accept that? I am trying not to be jealous and I never restricted him, but I am upset he lied to me about meeting her before. Meaning he had things to hide and therefore I don't trust him with this relationship with her. He mentioned I am giving him ultimatums - me or her, but is that really an ultimatum? You can't have a relationship with two people, right? Unless they both agree.

If anyone managed to read this, please, let me know your thoughts, experiences, advice, anything. I would appreciate that very much.

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LittleFishies · 08/11/2022 08:00

EndlessMagpies · 07/11/2022 17:17

Think of your life as it is now... and then throw a baby into the mix. I'm sorry to say this, but it would be a terrible idea.

Start thinking about whether you want to spend the rest of your life with this man or not.

It is what I am thinking, yes. It would not work out now. And this is also the reason I asked for advice as i am worried since we reached this point, it wouldn't get much better :(

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IncompleteSenten · 08/11/2022 08:01

I'd leave.
And if I chose to stay I sure as shit wouldn't bring a child into this crap!

RainyDaysareCarp · 08/11/2022 08:03

I half read it and wondered why you put up with all this shit? Really - move on for your own mental health. He is a grade A prick.

Quitelikeit · 08/11/2022 08:07

You lost me when you said this guy likes to write about sex.

there are so many things wrong in your dynamic that you are suffering unnecessarily.

it’s time to close the door in that chapter of your life

there would be hell on in my relationship if my oh had a friend like yours does!!! they fancy each other fgs it’s only a matter of time before that goes further

run and don’t look back

LittleFishies · 08/11/2022 08:15

Watchkeys · 07/11/2022 16:33

Why do other people's perspectives help, OP? Are your own perspectives about your own feelings in your own relationship not enough to enable you to make a decision?

You might want to read about self validation.

Because I want to know how outsiders can see the situation. It is very personal to me and I may not be too clear in my judgement. Apart from the mentioned problems I feel comfortable in the relationship, we have a lot in common and we are good friends, just maybe not so good partners anymore. Our friends tend to see us as a perfect couple, I think, and I don't want to badmouth him in front of people who know him. But I needed to talk about it, so I decided to ask strangers with experience.
It is that now I am losing sight of our future. Therefore I am not sure what to do and wanted to see an objective opinion. If my relationship problems are normal and manageble, or dealbreakers for others, before I do any rash decisions that would pull us apart maybe due to my current stress.

It is like seeing a therapist to help you see something you are worried about from a different perspective.
It is personal and I may be too worried about minor things that may seem normal to others. So I wanted to know that.
Plus I am feeling down in general now, so who knows if I am seeing everything too dark?

Making big changes like ending the relationship would take a lot of energy from me. We've been together for 5 years and I would likely be alone for some time, which would make my current predicament even harder. So I want to be very sure and seek opinions.

Maybe it is validation I need, too, yes. But it does help.

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LittleFishies · 08/11/2022 08:18

Quitelikeit · 08/11/2022 08:07

You lost me when you said this guy likes to write about sex.

there are so many things wrong in your dynamic that you are suffering unnecessarily.

it’s time to close the door in that chapter of your life

there would be hell on in my relationship if my oh had a friend like yours does!!! they fancy each other fgs it’s only a matter of time before that goes further

run and don’t look back

Well, I don't see something wrong about liking to write about sex per se?
I don't enjoy it, at least not the way it tends to go, but I wouldn't think it's bad by itself?

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FieldMapleMabel · 08/11/2022 08:21

Lots of alarm bells ringing, but putting aside the other woman, the stonewalling, the lack of empathy, the general shittiness - do not have children with a lazy man!! I can't emphasise this enough! So many threads on here are started by worn out women (who often are also the higher earner) who are carrying the mental and physical load at home (doable before children but soul destroying once DC come along) and have reached breaking point.

Your relationship sounds pretty dysfunctional to me, and I suspect he's more than friends with the other woman. Cut your losses OP, you deserve so much better.

WaveyHair · 08/11/2022 08:28

I am not getting many positives from your account if your relationship.

However, he started to get distant, ignore me at times and get upset over things I didn't know were a trigger and he'd stonewall me for maybe a couple of weeks over a thing I said I found trivial.

This was a recurring theme. Bear in mind many men will sit on the fence and be non decisive rather than say no or actually make a decision which would cause upset. But bear in mind neither are they saying yes.

savingoldbags · 08/11/2022 08:40

OP, your post sounds like you're very sad.

1.,You want to have children with a man who frequently won't speak to you and ignores you

  1. He has a female friend he is attracted to and secretly visits but refuses to break off the friendship
  2. He does very little in the home and you carry most of the household by yourself
  3. He wants to spend hours talking about sex when that makes you really uncomfortable and if you don't do it, he gaslights you.

This sounds like a horribly sad way to live. No relationship is perfect but what you're describing sounds very unhealthy and sad. A good relationship will make you feel secure, loved and 'alive'. I think you deserve so much more than this.

wherearebeefandonioncrisps · 08/11/2022 09:10

I totally concur with @savingoldbags

You're even wondering if it might be your fault in some way.

Your relationship with your parents seems off kilter too.

If you can, I'd really try to find a counsellor .

ihatethefuckingmuffin · 08/11/2022 09:45

No one should settle for someone when eggshells are involved. It’s toxic. It eats at your self esteem.

This is not father material.

They are supposed to be supportive of their partners and children, not act like a massive child.

I wouldn’t bother talking to him any more about this relationship. It will only leave you feeling even more shitter than you already do.

You’re a stop gap until someone else comes along and they have.

And tell your parents to get a grip. It’s not their money that was stolen. It’s none of their business if you do or don’t have children. Time to back off and leave you alone. I know my adult dcs would tell me to fuck off and look at ways of having my own.

Goatbilly · 08/11/2022 10:15

Do not compromise on wanting a child for a man, ever, if that's what you want. He sounds like he's stalling and buying time, as other posters have suggested.

LittleFishies · 08/11/2022 11:35

savingoldbags · 08/11/2022 08:40

OP, your post sounds like you're very sad.

1.,You want to have children with a man who frequently won't speak to you and ignores you

  1. He has a female friend he is attracted to and secretly visits but refuses to break off the friendship
  2. He does very little in the home and you carry most of the household by yourself
  3. He wants to spend hours talking about sex when that makes you really uncomfortable and if you don't do it, he gaslights you.

This sounds like a horribly sad way to live. No relationship is perfect but what you're describing sounds very unhealthy and sad. A good relationship will make you feel secure, loved and 'alive'. I think you deserve so much more than this.

Thank you. Yeah, I have had happier moments in my life.

He is trying to change. He is aware that his ignoring behaviour etc. isn't a good approach and he's working on it. And those instances are indeed getting less frequent. It is jsut that our relationship isn'T as happy as iit used to in general.

When we had that talk about the friedn of his, he told me that he was seeeing her because he had helped her with some major problems or soemthing like that. But now that I am deep in major problems, he's not here for me. That is what eats away at me, too.

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Watchkeys · 08/11/2022 11:39

He is trying to change

So? A compatible partner doesn't need to change. It's that simple.

LittleFishies · 08/11/2022 11:42

wherearebeefandonioncrisps · 08/11/2022 09:10

I totally concur with @savingoldbags

You're even wondering if it might be your fault in some way.

Your relationship with your parents seems off kilter too.

If you can, I'd really try to find a counsellor .

Thank you.

My realationship with my parents has it'S problems, too. I have a bit complicated relationship with my mom, she is hard to get along with, but when it comes to any trouble, she's always there for me and trying to help. Same goes for my dad. I've always had a great relationship with him.
There are things that are hard to forget and I probably have some emotional scars, but my parents helped me a lot, too and made my life easy. And I like them, I don't want to get stressed over some trouble. They are doing what they can and I believe they are ready to help financially, but I don't want them to give up their savings before retirement for my mistakes.

I cannot get counselor, now, no.It seems I will have to live from minimal wage and get side jobs and give everything else to pay off my debt for a few years now.

Ah, this is getting more depressing the more I read and write. Sorry, guys. But thank you very much for listening and sharing your opinion. I needed to just talk to soebody, even if it is the internet :D

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LittleFishies · 08/11/2022 11:43

Watchkeys · 08/11/2022 11:39

He is trying to change

So? A compatible partner doesn't need to change. It's that simple.

But everyone has their quirks, etc. Who's perfect? I appreciate if anyone is doing their best to be kinder.

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Watchkeys · 08/11/2022 11:53

Nobody is perfect. Everybody has their quirks. But do you think that everybody, despite their quirks, is compatible with you? It's your responsibility to pick people with your quirks-of-preference, otherwise you will be picking people with quirks that you can't stand, which is what you're doing now.

Your relationship with him is a copy of your relationship with your Mum: you like him, he's nice, he's a good person, but some of the things he does are simply not ok with you but you put up with them because you had to do the same for your Mum because children cannot walk away. It's a pattern; it's your conditioning; it's how you've been trained by your upbringing.

You don't have to do this 'putting up with' stuff that people do. You can walk away. The fact that he's often nice and good company and trying his best is neither here nor there. Criminals are nice much of the time. You can't judge a relationship on its good times; you have to look at what happens when things go wrong. Apparently Hitler was a great bloke to have coffee and cake with... really good laugh, smart, friendly, talkative etc. Do you think that would mean you could have a healthy relationship with him? Or would you have to have a look at what was happening other than the good times?

This man disrespects you, and you overlook it, because he's 'trying' to stop disrespecting you. But you could respect yourself, and walk away from anyone, from here on in, who doesn't offer you full 100% respect. And that would include him. Why are you putting up with continued disrespect? That's the question you have to ask yourself.

Because disrespecting you is just a little 'quirk'?

LittleFishies · 08/11/2022 12:01

Watchkeys · 08/11/2022 11:53

Nobody is perfect. Everybody has their quirks. But do you think that everybody, despite their quirks, is compatible with you? It's your responsibility to pick people with your quirks-of-preference, otherwise you will be picking people with quirks that you can't stand, which is what you're doing now.

Your relationship with him is a copy of your relationship with your Mum: you like him, he's nice, he's a good person, but some of the things he does are simply not ok with you but you put up with them because you had to do the same for your Mum because children cannot walk away. It's a pattern; it's your conditioning; it's how you've been trained by your upbringing.

You don't have to do this 'putting up with' stuff that people do. You can walk away. The fact that he's often nice and good company and trying his best is neither here nor there. Criminals are nice much of the time. You can't judge a relationship on its good times; you have to look at what happens when things go wrong. Apparently Hitler was a great bloke to have coffee and cake with... really good laugh, smart, friendly, talkative etc. Do you think that would mean you could have a healthy relationship with him? Or would you have to have a look at what was happening other than the good times?

This man disrespects you, and you overlook it, because he's 'trying' to stop disrespecting you. But you could respect yourself, and walk away from anyone, from here on in, who doesn't offer you full 100% respect. And that would include him. Why are you putting up with continued disrespect? That's the question you have to ask yourself.

Because disrespecting you is just a little 'quirk'?

Well, that's... intense. And eye opening.
Thank you for this. I will have to think ybout what you wrote for a while.
You may be right, though I still would think everyone has problems. Like I mentioned, I have done things wrong, too. But yeah, this sounds like I am doing this putting up with things again. :)

You are right about the good vs. bad times. The way we are now when times are bad for me is exactly why I just started thinking that I don't like the way things are. It makes me sad.

If I had to name one thing that is important for me in a partner, it would be he would have to respect me. I think I put a lot of importance on that. So that is why what you wrote comes as a bit of a surprise to me. Have I just gotten accustomed to a treatment I originally wouldn'T have put up with over time? I will have to process and think about this. I am also trying to change things on my side. I can accodmodate some things, other's are, however, harder. And I do believe a relationship is also about compromises. But at the moment I am feeling I am compromising more than I like, indeed.

Thank you. As I mentioned, I'll think about what you wrote.

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Watchkeys · 08/11/2022 12:13

I'm glad you're going to think about it. Really the only thing is 'Does he consistently respect you?'

It doesn't look like he does. And that's important to you. So that's it.

Don't worry about what you're changing for him or what you think you need to be doing better in a relationship. With a compatible partner, we feel like who we were always meant to be, so if you're feeling the need to change, or if you're being triggered into doing stuff that you yourself don't like, then get out of the relationship first. I'm sure you're not trying to change things about in relationships with people you feel respect you, are you? Your relationship mirrors the two of you, so if you're not making each other happy, you won't see yourselves clearly or behave as your true selves. It's a bit like looking in a wavy mirror and saying 'Oh no, my bum looks really big!' You need to sort out what mirror you're choosing to look in, before actually making efforts to change yourself, because you're getting an 'off' representation of yourself.

BackOnTheBandWagon · 08/11/2022 12:14

Have I just gotten accustomed to a treatment I originally wouldn't have put up with over time?

Yes, yes you have. What would you say if you were advising a friend?

Tbh I didn't make it past the paragraph about him wanting to write about sex and turning most written conversations that way. That's awful - it's the same as when you can't just cuddle your partner without them trying to turn it into sex - no emotional support, only physical gratification, and then he sulks when he doesn't get what he wants. He sounds awful, and I didn't even read the rest of your post.

Please leave him. You will find someone worthy of you who actually really wants to start a family with you.

Firesideassembly · 08/11/2022 12:17

Op things shouldn't be this hard in the first five years. I hope you don't have children with this man. If he is untrustworthy, distant and unsupportive now, imagine how he will be with the pressures of small DC?

I hope you can find the strength to leave him and ignore what your parents say! They are not the ones who will have to live with him and they should not be pressurising you about DC, it really isn't helpful. They should be putting your happiness first. (I say this as a mother of two daughters.) Do they know about his young "friend"?

You sound like a lovely person. Do you really think hearing his side will help? Sometimes a person's actions speak louder than words.

Can you afford to live by yourself after your financial phishing incident? (Are you sure he wasn't involved in that btw?) If not I suggest you start looking for a house share. Please start putting your things in order. He really isn't a nice person with his constant sex texting, his emotional investment in another woman, his laziness around the house, his lack of honesty and transparency and his unsupportive nature. Please gather your things and run away op. You are worth so much more!

IGJ10 · 08/11/2022 12:17

Why can't you tell him you love him after 5 years? That is unusual. I'm sorry you're having a rough time. It is important to feel respected in a relationship. And it seems to me he has prioritised the feelings of his "friend" over your feelings and that must burn deep. It is not fair, it is not a quirk. It is callous disrespect.

LittleFishies · 08/11/2022 12:23

Firesideassembly · 08/11/2022 12:17

Op things shouldn't be this hard in the first five years. I hope you don't have children with this man. If he is untrustworthy, distant and unsupportive now, imagine how he will be with the pressures of small DC?

I hope you can find the strength to leave him and ignore what your parents say! They are not the ones who will have to live with him and they should not be pressurising you about DC, it really isn't helpful. They should be putting your happiness first. (I say this as a mother of two daughters.) Do they know about his young "friend"?

You sound like a lovely person. Do you really think hearing his side will help? Sometimes a person's actions speak louder than words.

Can you afford to live by yourself after your financial phishing incident? (Are you sure he wasn't involved in that btw?) If not I suggest you start looking for a house share. Please start putting your things in order. He really isn't a nice person with his constant sex texting, his emotional investment in another woman, his laziness around the house, his lack of honesty and transparency and his unsupportive nature. Please gather your things and run away op. You are worth so much more!

Thank you.

My mom also worried about how my partner took the phishing incident. Whether he is talking to me. probably in a way that she is worried that he might get upset and want to leave me. She wants her grand children, so I can see why she thinks in this direction, but it just doesn't help me feel better at all.
I believe my parents will understand if I break up and tell them it is also because he was the reason they don't have grandchildren and if I stayed, they'd likely never have. It is just that it would be another big news to further stress them out and make them worry about me more.

I would like to hear his side. I can understand his motivations then and see where we misunderstood each other. On the other hand, I try to be empathetic and as a result, it would probably make me give it another chance. Maybe it is not the best idea. But I first really need to make up my mind and sort my thoughts before I act.

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LittleFishies · 08/11/2022 12:30

As for the living expenses, I can afford to live by myself. We live in a flat belonging to my parents, so I don't need to pay any landlord. While my expenses would rise if I lived by myself, it wouldn't be by that much and I can (and will have to anyway) save on energies.
As I mentioned, I have a good job and I can adjust how much I will leave myself, but I do want to pay off the debt asap, also saving a lot in interests that way. But I will still see what the bank's stance will be. But I don't have much hope.

I could theoretically save more by going back to my parents' house, but I am not going to do that to them, nor to myself :D Let's say I really can't live under one roof with my mom. Our relationship improved when I moved out. And my mental health in general.

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LittleFishies · 08/11/2022 12:33

IGJ10 · 08/11/2022 12:17

Why can't you tell him you love him after 5 years? That is unusual. I'm sorry you're having a rough time. It is important to feel respected in a relationship. And it seems to me he has prioritised the feelings of his "friend" over your feelings and that must burn deep. It is not fair, it is not a quirk. It is callous disrespect.

I know it is unusual and I am aware this is my shortcoming. I think I never said that to anyone. I have some sort of a block and I just can't. I don't even know why, it wouldn't roll off my tongue, even if I mean it. Weird, I know. And I can understand why my partner would be sad/upset and have doubts about it.
I think he needs reassuring in general. I think he told me that once, too.

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