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Would gay men use the term 'Girl' for their hetero men friends/colleagues?

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CatAndHisKit · 04/11/2022 20:06

Could anyone enlighten me on this, as I know that many gay men call other gay 'girl' when being nice, but would they use that for a hetero colleague/friend especially within art-related professions?

I'm asking as I'd like to suss out if a man I know is gay - who was perviously in LTR hetero relationship (not hugely long but serious) - he was called that twice by gay friends on SM in a friendly/jokey context which he engaged with in a happy way. Is it normal to use the word with hetero friends? Or is he trying to subtly prepare people that he is in fact gay/bi?

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dudsville · 04/11/2022 20:11

What's the end game here. I mean whatever this man's sexuality, why is it on your mind?

Of course there isn't a specific word that automatically means this or that. "Girrrrl" is popularised in the media, people have fun saying it.

SpookyMcGhoul · 04/11/2022 20:13

Why does it matter to you if he's gay? Tbh I don't think you can base it on what people call him! It's a bit of a reach thinking he's got people to use that phrase on social to soft launch his sexual orientation.

I have friends who call everyone "girl" on social media and in real life. We're all late 20s or early 30s though, I think it's quite common as a sort of slang.

CatAndHisKit · 04/11/2022 20:19

yes that's what I meant - is 'Girrl' used just for fun towards hetero men too, or is it a no-no, and only used for gay men and women friends?
Well as it's in r-ships you could probably guess that I'm attracted to him hence wanting to find out - I want to either move on (if he's gay) or possibly ask him out. He wasn't single before, but I'm not sure if he;s trying to hint he's gay.

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SpookyMcGhoul · 04/11/2022 20:25

If you're attracted to him, ask him out. If he's gay, he'll say no?

CatAndHisKit · 04/11/2022 20:28

Spooky that's juat what I'm asking - he's older but those friends are 30s, maybe 20s. I just want to know it's fine and jokey towards hetro friends - and not unusual/strange. No I didn't mean he asked them to use it- more that he enjoyed and responded to those posts - I did think he was just having fun and less likely hinting, it's more would his gay friends do it if they thought he wasn't gay.

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Choconut · 04/11/2022 20:36

I'd think they'd treat him the way they treat all their friends, and if they call them girrrrrl in a jokey fashion then they would him too. I don't think it would indicate that he was gay.
Ask him out whatever the case, he'll be flattered either way I'm sure.

CatAndHisKit · 04/11/2022 20:51

Thanks, Choco. Its complicated as I ve asked him out (not directly on a date as such) a while ago not knowing that he had a long tern GF. I'm not 100% sure he hasn't got a new partner now so don't want to make a fool of mysef twice! I know he can say 'no' if he's not gay but I wanted to rrule that out at least.

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blurer · 04/11/2022 21:20

Well if he had a long term gf before he's either hetero or bi.

He's clearly interested in dating/being with girls so that wouldn't be a reason to not ask him out

Whether he's interested or not is unlikely to be related to his sexuality

CatAndHisKit · 04/11/2022 23:29

blurer well there are married men who come out later - Philip Schofield for one. He's not 'macho' by any means, and I like that. Anyway I think i'll wait for a bit, I think we have a vibe but I may not be his type (he does know I was interested before).

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PeterSR · 09/11/2022 21:41

Hi I’m gay and never call men that. I know it happens but not why .

tribpot · 09/11/2022 21:53

My extensive experience here is the amazing Randy Rainbow and he definitely uses the term girrrl to refer to straight men in his songs. Admittedly sarcastically but he is a satirist!

In this case, however, you've already asked him out, so he knows you are/were interested. If he's now available I think the next move is up to him. It would be too weird to ask him out again, surely?

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