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Is he lying?

19 replies

RainRainGoAwayyyy · 26/10/2022 11:42

Hello

I have a question and would like to hear your opinions.

Basically, I was with my BF (of 6 months) on Sunday, and we were lying in bed. He was showing me a picture he took the night before. He then got a notification before he put his phone down, he looked at it briefly, dismissed it, and then put his phone down. I saw, what looked like a message, with a "profile picture" next to it, so like someones icon. It was a brunette lady and the message was very short but had a 'X' at the end. I didnt think anything of it but later I asked if a girl had messaged him. I apologised and said I felt silly asking. He didnt know what I was talking about and got his phone, opened his texts and showed me his recent messages.

I forgot about it and thought I was being silly. I'm not saying girls cant message him, if they are friends, but I know what I saw and if it was just a message, why deny it?

Later that evening when I was home, I asked him about it again and said if he did recieve a message, he should just say. He was shocked and started sending me screenshots of his other message platforms to show he didnt recieve anything. He then got arsey and ignored me for 24 hours. He claimed he was busy but then admitted he wasn't happy with what I was saying.

He has told me a similar story with his ex, he said she woke one night and "imagined" seeing a picture of a girl on his phone. He said she must have been daydreaming - but that all seems odd to me, so what are we both a little crazy and imagining things?

I feel so silly but its lying thats upsetting me. He was being horrible during the day when he eventually got in touch and just acting like a different person. He then sent me an "in future list" which was basically bulletin points to avoid this happening again, i.e him being annoyed. That majorly pissed me off.

I told him his behaviour yesterday was strange, not speaking to me for a whole day, not reading my messages from the night before and being arsey about everything. He then found a message thread from 3 months ago (yes, 3 months ago!) where I didnt message him back for 5 hours because I was working. He then said he did nothing wrong by not messaging back because he was busy and then asked why it is okay for me to not message him back.

This is all just bloody daft, isnt it!!!

What would you do? Stop talking about the whole thing - think that you maybe made a mistake with what you saw, or think there is more to it? For reference, he hasnt done anything to make me doubt him and we often chats /see each other lots.

OP posts:
whoknew123 · 26/10/2022 11:46

What was the messaging format, SMS or WhatsApp? Or something else? Could it have been a push notification from a website advertising something?

RainRainGoAwayyyy · 26/10/2022 11:48

It looked like a text - there was a picture at the left and it was a short message with a kiss!

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ThingsIhavelearnt · 26/10/2022 11:49

He is an arse

just block and move on

red flags all over this one

Bookworm20 · 26/10/2022 11:50

I think the little bulletin list he sent you - of things you are not to do to prevent it happening again, would be enough for me.

Plus, the fact his ex left him because of this very similar scenario. And his reaction to you asking about the message.

I'd be treading very carefully if I was you.

mummaforever2000 · 26/10/2022 11:55

He sounds defensive & it seems to hint towards narcissistic behaviour. Trust your instinct & don't take any shit

Mumofnarnia · 26/10/2022 12:05

His ex woke up in the middle of the night and imagined she saw a picture of a girl on his phone! Yeah sure she did lol. That’s just manipulating you into believing his side of the story if her version of the story came to light!

ThisWormHasTurned · 26/10/2022 15:22

What would I do? I’d run like the wind. It’s been 6 weeks in. He’s already messing with your head, implying his ex was the same and setting you up with rules so you don’t question him in the future. You’ll forever be walking on egg shells with this one.

AlternativelyWired · 26/10/2022 17:17

I think you've had plenty of good advice on your other thread about this. I don't think the replies are going to be any different on this thread.

SandyY2K · 26/10/2022 17:27

@ThisWormHasTurned

What would I do? I’d run like the wind. It’s been 6 weeks in

It's 6 months, but I'd still run.

9HrsSleep · 26/10/2022 17:31

The only reason he's acting this way is because he's been caught and is trying to turn it around on you being the crazy one, just like his ex. I'd leave, because it'll only get worse. Also... he composed a list for you to follow!! That's crazy!

Pineappleskies · 26/10/2022 17:35

Its up to you isn't it. You're responsible for your own life and you seem determined to spend it being lied to.

Nothing anyone says here will make a difference. Have you read your own post?

KirstenBlest · 26/10/2022 17:37

Both you and his ex are crazy.
So will be the next one.
The common denominator is him.
Bin him.

blacksax · 26/10/2022 17:56

Is he lying?

Of course he is. You know what you saw. You know he is lying, and he knows you know.

That's why he is making such a song and dance about it, and trying to turn it round to be all in your imagination, just like his crazy ex. And why he's now telling you how to behave, and given you a handy list of how not to annoy him in future.

Just dump him, life is too short for all this nonsense.

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 26/10/2022 18:00

He's lying and dump him. In fact when I heard he said the same thing about his ex I knew he was lying from then on! Your boyfriend I mean.

MsDogLady · 26/10/2022 18:34

You saw the brunette’s photo and the kiss. Now he’s expecting you to swallow his lies and gaslighting. He must think you were born yesterday.

The bullet points are clearly this narcissist’s controlling tactic to train you to always comply and stay in your lane.

@RainRainGoAwayyyy, if you value your self-respect, boundaries, and peace of mind, you will walk away asap. And then stay strong when he tries to hoover you.

DosCervezas · 26/10/2022 19:56

You've rumbled him.
That's the only reason he's pissed off.

AnyFucker · 26/10/2022 20:01

Is his mouth moving ?

FaceLikeASmackedArse · 26/10/2022 20:08

This sounds very much like someone I had dated in my early 20s. A phone call came through where he suddenly had to dash off to take it in private. I thought nothing of it, but his reaction when I said "who was that, everything OK?" said it all. His whole face changed, turned quite nasty, got very defensive and generally acted shifty. Started laying all this emotional blackmail stuff on me, such "this is what my ex was like!" and getting a day long silent treatment.

A couple of days later I got a strange text from an unknown number asking if I was seeing a guy called <his name> I answered "yes, who is this?" and ended up in a very long and emotional conversation with his wife.

He was married, 10 years, and they had 2 young children. And apparently I wasn't the first. He'd been doing this to her for the last couple of years with numerous unsuspecting women.

Of course, I'm not saying this is what's going on with you, but gut feeling, body language, general reactions... you just know something isn't right

FaceLikeASmackedArse · 26/10/2022 20:10

Oh, and regardless of whether he may or may not be cheating/trying to cheat, the bullet point lecture of how not to piss him off again would be a no brainer for me anyway. Fuck that! Its almost comical tbh

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