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My parents hate me

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Sc34 · 23/10/2022 20:39

Hello, I'm looking for advice on how anyone has handled parents who don't like them please?

My parents are 70 and 71, they had an extremely volatile relationship when I was growing up; my dad was a woman beating drug addict. My mother a spoilt control freak. They divorced when I was 7 then remarried 8 years later, after us moving to a refuge during the separation. My dad would wait outside our house, and try to abduct me from school. I spent playtimes indoors.

My mum was never there for me really, she talked about killing herself constantly when I was a small child. We lived with my gran who cared for me day to day. It broke my heart when we moved to the refuge without her. Even more so when my parents got back together and made me move in with them.

I have two children of my own now, a 17 year old and a six year old. I have had some unstable relationships in my past, due to very low self esteem and self worth. I left my youngest sons dad due to abuse. He made me very ill, and was able to use the relationship I have with my parents to segregate me and use me. I eventually got away after he had an affair. I've skimmed over a great deal here. This was not the life I wanted for myself or my children.

I have suffered a great deal with low mood, low confidence etc, all my adult life. I am now 37, but get treated as a child. If I don't ring my mum and tell her my movements I'm *** off. I'm relatively smart, yet have no confidence to really aim for greatness. I am aware I can parent and work, single-handedly without any support from my son's dad or my parents (I know I'm a good mum to my children), as he no longer has contact with us and my parents said it was too difficult to pick my son up from school once a week, unless I allow them to have a key to my home so they can have full access to it. I declined.

My mother has never really been positive about me, my dad has allowed her to bully me, and has often joined it. In fairness, they have helped me out financially over the past 3 years, however I'm reminded of this all the time, and they make it known to others. Not to extreme sum of money, but when times have been tough, they have helped with a frown.

I have now met a man who I have been seeing for 6 months; we have taken it very slowly due to both having children, and my negative self talk has caused some sabotage along the way. My parents will have my youngest overnight from around 6pm to 10am, so the time we've had together every other weekend or so has been limited. This is also the only time I ever have to myself. Prior to this, if my son stayed with them, I also had to stay.

This new relationship seems to be really going somewhere, he is the kindest, most gentle man I have ever met. Around 10 years ago, he dabbled in recreational drugs and my mums friend told her of this. They have never met him, but my mum immediately had a vendetta against him, much as she has with any man who has shown me interest in the past 3 years. He has not done anything like this in 10 years, has children of his own and works full time. He's a great dad and shows me respect like nobody ever has. Yet my mum detests me ever seeing him.

My parents have recently begun saying things about me in the presence of my youngest son, who has felt the need to tell them they are being nasty about his mummy. He was told off for this and told he'd never be allowed there again if he told them off. My mum also used to say things about me to my eldest son when he was younger. Now he is older, he speaks very little to them, and they always slate him for this.

Please, has anyone managed to successfully discuss their parents behaviour, and managed to improve and maintain a relationship with them by doing so. I've sat in the show and cried this evening, after hearing this from my youngest son. They are the only family we really have, but I cannot carry on like this. Please help.

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Nanny0gg · 23/10/2022 20:53

They are blood relations. Not family.

You and your children get nothing from this.

You need to seek counselling to help you disengage from this highly toxic situation

achangeisafoot · 23/10/2022 20:54

I'm sorry to sound as harsh as I'm going to but they won't change, they've been like this for at least 40 years right? Why would they change now?
I'm also sorry for this because I know it's not what you want to hear but there is no way in hell I would like them care for my child, especially when they're doing this. I would be withdrawing as much as possible.
The best thing my mother every did for me was protect me from her toxic parents

Sc34 · 23/10/2022 21:03

@achangeisafoot this is why we see them once every other weekend at most. My son has no other grandparents and I feel guilty for this. Thank you for your input.

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firstmummy2019 · 23/10/2022 21:04

The only way to resolve this is no contact. They will never change. Been 13 months no contact with my mother, best year of my life.

Sc34 · 23/10/2022 21:05

I did attend counselling a couple of years ago. The counsellor felt sorry for my mum, due to the abuse she had underwent from my dad. Thank you for your response.

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Sc34 · 23/10/2022 21:06

@firstmummy2019 thank you for that. I'm glad that you're happy and have peace.

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Blahburst · 23/10/2022 21:08

Get away from these people. You don’t need them in your life. You sound completely capable and it will be a weight off your shoulders. Best of luck.

Pumpkinpatchlookinggood · 23/10/2022 21:11

You do know you are subjecting your dc to the childhood you had don't you? Take your dc. Block them. Hire a babysitter..
My dc have no dgps either. They aren't suffering from it.

Sc34 · 23/10/2022 21:13

Can I ask if you have been in this situation, and if so, how did you deal with it? I'm glad you're children are happy.

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Sc34 · 23/10/2022 21:16

@Blahburst I am capable, very capable however, if I can reason with them in some way and preserve a relationship for my children to have with their grandparents, I'd like to attempt this first if possible. Thank you for your reply. I appreciate it.

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Blahburst · 23/10/2022 21:17

OP it’s not easy to cut ties and it hurts and continues to hurt when you realise with a bit of distance how badly you have been treated. But the freedom from all the toxicity is more than worth it and your self esteem will rocket when you realise what you can achieve without these people in your life.

Sc34 · 23/10/2022 21:20

@Blahburst No it's really not. My gran was such a pivotal part of my childhood and I so wish my children could have experienced this. However, I am trying to accept that this won't be the case for them. Thank you again.

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ZeroFucksGivenToday · 23/10/2022 21:21

Honestly. Get a new counsellor.

Walk away and go NC. I did, it took a while and it was the best thing I did. My dd doesn't have grandparents as my wonderful ex ILs passed away. But it's still better that way for my DD. (My mum has since died).

You are trapped in FOG (fear, obligation & guilt), have a read of toxic parents too.

their behaviour won't change. They want to control you. That's why they keep you in self doubt and go against any man that's interested in you, as it means you'll pull away from their control.

you can't change them, you can't reason with them, you won't make them see the error of their ways.

Sc34 · 23/10/2022 21:23

Just to clarify also, my dad is a recovered drug addict for over 20 years and is no longer violent. I clearly wouldn't leave my children in that environment.

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Sc34 · 23/10/2022 21:27

@ZeroFucksGivenToday thank you for such an articulate response.

I'm sorry to hear of your multiple losses.

I will look into this.

May sound silly to some but, these are the only parents I have ever know. Whilst I can identify their behaviours are wrong, it really hurts the thought of being parentless and alone.

Myself and my children do deserve better however, that is a fact.

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Sc34 · 23/10/2022 21:37

It is people like you that cause others to suffer in silence. If you have no positive input, scroll along and don't comment. Luckily I'm a pretty strong individual. Please be aware however, how your comments can have an extremely detrimental impact on people who come here looking for support. If you can't offer any experienced input, leave it to those who have been in similar situations and can offer guidance.

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Aquamarine1029 · 23/10/2022 22:42

The best thing you could ever do for yourself and your kids is to cut these people out of your life. They are a cancer to you.

You mention being "parent less.". The reality is you already are. Loving parents don't behave like yours do. You really are lost in the FOG, not accepting that you will never have a healthy, loving relationship with these people. You continue to allow yourself to be their whipping post, and I truly hope you stop.

Nanny0gg · 23/10/2022 23:05

Sc34 · 23/10/2022 21:03

@achangeisafoot this is why we see them once every other weekend at most. My son has no other grandparents and I feel guilty for this. Thank you for your input.

I'm a grandmother. Your child doesn't need grandparents if they add nothing to their life, let alone if they're detrimental.

You are what they need and your parents are harming you.

Nanny0gg · 23/10/2022 23:05

Sc34 · 23/10/2022 21:16

@Blahburst I am capable, very capable however, if I can reason with them in some way and preserve a relationship for my children to have with their grandparents, I'd like to attempt this first if possible. Thank you for your reply. I appreciate it.

Why? Your parents are destroying that.

And you don't have to see them as often as you do either.

MidnightConstellation · 23/10/2022 23:07

Why on earth would you allow these awful people near your children? They sound so damaging. I would urge you to cut them out of your life if not for your own sake for the sake of your children.

lightlypoached · 23/10/2022 23:10

Sc34 · 23/10/2022 21:05

I did attend counselling a couple of years ago. The counsellor felt sorry for my mum, due to the abuse she had underwent from my dad. Thank you for your response.

Well that was a shit counsellor. Trust me there are better out there and it would help you enormously to give you support to withdraw from the relationship with your toxic parents.

Please don't feel guilty for leaving them without grandparents. It's far better not to have them then to have toxic, nasty damaging people on your children's lives. Your kids will thank you for it later.

Really you are worth so much more than this.

Get help. Stand on your own / feet, and protect your kids.

You can do this.

achangeisafoot · 24/10/2022 08:13

I grew up without grandparents because mine are toxic. I had no contact at all until I was 18.

My cousins were raised around my grandparents. Every single one of them has mental health and relationship problems. I don't.

I never missed having grandparents as a child

Cantthinkofanewnameatm · 24/10/2022 09:04

Sc34 · 23/10/2022 21:05

I did attend counselling a couple of years ago. The counsellor felt sorry for my mum, due to the abuse she had underwent from my dad. Thank you for your response.

The counsellor should not have felt sorry for your dm, if they did they shouldn’t have said so. Their job was to listen to you and help you see choices you have.
Your parents won’t change. Mine didn’t, in fact they got worse.
They are creating the next generation of misery in your child and you are enabling this. No grandparents is a better option than harmful ones.
You’re right to go slowly with new man, you need to be 100% sure he is rock solid —- anything less isn’t good enough.
Cut your parents from your life, they are toxic and that will spread through your life and into your children, who will carry it on.

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