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Manipulation / coercion issues.

11 replies

HPMum9 · 09/10/2022 20:13

This is my first post. I'm not sure if I'm writing to just get things off my chest or for advice? All I know is that I'm curled up in a corner; a shadow of my former self. I'm really private so it's taken a huge deep breath to write this. It's a proper "metoo" issue. Please don't judge me harshly...

Going back about 3y a very wealthy long-term (publicly-known) friend offered to help me with a legal situation. I didn't ask - he offered. He agreed to fund all my legal costs, whatever the cost and with no need to reimburse. He knew my circumstances. I'd been made homeless and was unable to work due to the overwhelming amount of legal issues. (My one salvation has been a rent-free flat all this time - even though it's condition means it should be uninhabitable).

The friend started to fund the legal costs. I can't divulge the cases as they are ongoing. I needed 2 law firms - one my choice and affordable; his choice was expensive. But when I got to a perfect moment to "close" and needed a last push with lawyers - he kind of distanced himself for a number of weeks.

Then he changed his terms. He would only support me if I agreed to "compromise my integrity". I realized I'd been set up; manipulated into a dependency situation. Legally I couldn't stop the processes. I'm single (widowed with kids) and capable of weighing up my options, however unpalatable. But I had never ever encountered such a proposal predicament before. I cringe with embarrassment as I write this, but there was a brief period of very reluctant acquiescence. Each time distasteful, toe-curlingly awkward and awful experiences. Thankfully as brief as it takes to hard-boil an egg.

But I should have known better. His disappearance/ delay had adversely affected the legal situation; deadlines were missed and the case was protracted. Which meant more legal costs and an extended period under his "coercive control". He knew this would happen. It was deliberate. Its hard to understand when you are in the middle of it, but in hindsight it's clear that his sole intention was to make me completely financially dependent on him. Trading off my traumatized state and vulnerability.

He offered me a 'salary' - until the legal situation was resolved - as long as I "met" him regularly... Then his lawyer presented a draft contract. It was clear he was simply trying to gain control of the legal situation so he could really big-time profit. I didn't agree to either. I just couldn't stomach being physically, mentally and financially manipulated any longer. Bizarrely for a man in his position he's admitted to all this in writing. Including admitting he's a bully and bullying me on purpose. Some friend...

I managed to get through this year using my own investment funds (plundered pension). But I still can't really see a 'soon' end in sight; I need more funds and have exhausted my resources. I just want to get off the legal bus, so to speak. Maybe I'm eligible for free legal support? Again in hindsight, I should have used my funds at the beginning and maybe got earlier closure and saved destroying my soul and spirit.

I don't want to go back to the 'friend' who is still offering £s "with conditions". That yuk thought makes me retch. He's already proved he doesn't commit when required/ moves the goalposts. I don't know how - but somehow I will find a resolution on how to move forward.

It's just there's a thought lingering in my head: should I/ could I report what he's done/ doing? Is it a legal offence?
Or is it just life? And I should just box it up mentally and push to the far corners of my mind as a very very bad personal experience to be forgotten as best as possible...??

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MovingOutofZone2 · 09/10/2022 20:49

I’m not sure I really understand. Simone you know offered to pay for lawyers, then reneged unless you had sex with them and now you’re not sure what to do? Is that right?

HPMum9 · 09/10/2022 21:16

I guess that's the simplistic view. Its the whole manipulation aspect I m struggling with. I've never had anyone do it before. I was always self sufficient. It's like hes waited for years to catch me when I'm vulnerable. I didnt expect it. I didn't expect to be pushed into a corner like he's done whilst smiling sweetly. If I had understood what his plan was I would have handled things differently and earlier. He's played me. And left me now on the verge of bankruptcy and feeling so low and on edge. Literally lost everything. He doesn't care about the money he's invested. This is all about controlling me. I don't know what to do. But the main question I think is - is this coercion and manipulation a legal offence.
He's ostracized me socially too. Ive never felt so alone and so desperate in my life

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Cigent · 09/10/2022 21:19

He has been raping you. That's what this is. Could you speak to Women's Aid? Hopefully someone more knowledgeable than me will be along soon.

HPMum9 · 09/10/2022 22:27

Oh ! I hadn't considered it like that.

This is the first moment I've vocalized what's been going on. And I'm in a mental hole about it all
Thank you.

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Andypandy799 · 10/10/2022 08:18

@HPMum9 sounds like sound advice to speak to someone about the sexual abuse as you feel you had no choice but to sleep with him. Sounds very rapey to me

billy1966 · 10/10/2022 09:19

Yes he has been raping you.

His lawyers know too?

You have proof of this?

You need to contact Women's aid for advice and ask for help getting legal aid and involving the police.

He has committed a crime.

Gather all your information together and call Womens aid.

It all sounds awful.

HPMum9 · 10/10/2022 21:03

No-one knows. Apart from one g/f in whom I confided. And writing on here anonymously this w/e.

His lawyers drafted a contract re the legal situation - not this.

Yes I have proof of what happened and when. And many texts which specifically spell out the circumstances.

It is only the last few days that I have really begun to understand how traumatized I am. It sounds stupid, but i was out walking and some random guy smiled at me. I noticed. He had a very warm happy look to his face. For a few brief seconds I reacted normally - I felt appreciated and I returned the smile. But I was also hit with a sudden wave of fear and sadness and an overwhelming urge to cry. That's not normal. That brief eye interaction with a stranger kick-started me questioning what my "friend" has done. There's like a whirlwind of confusing thoughts in my head. Which is why I reached out on here. To try make sense of what I'm feeling and thinking.

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HPMum9 · 10/10/2022 21:11

Yes I can gather all my information together. I've learned how to present evidence from the legal situations.
It's just really scary to take this further. End of a long-term friendship. Although I get that most people will now say it's no friendship. He's also very insulated with extreme wealth and top lawyers.

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Cantthinkofanewnameatm · 10/10/2022 21:21

He’s no friend so no friendship is lost. You’ll just be seeing him for what he really is.
pp advice is spot on.
Gather all your evidence. Write succinctly what happened from Day 1.
Contact Women’s Aid or a local support organisation ( tho you may feel better speaking to someone at a distance if he’s well known locally)

HPMum9 · 24/10/2022 07:16

WA advised I should not be posting my issues on public forums. They delete threads that give too much detail as they fear OPs may be easily identified. As others advised above, they suggested gathering the evidence and then taking it further. Perhaps my thread should be removed?

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ThatAussieGuy · 24/10/2022 07:35

If the guy is well known, going to the media might help? It might be news worthy? If you can go through that....

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